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Beijing promises to stand by Islamabad in any eventuality

Sir,You forget to see he has 21 positive rating also.
There is always a way to see the glass is half empty or full.
Ontopic-This promise is not seen in last many wars or conflicts from China and the current surgical strike scenario.

One only sees the image the other puts out is he saying anything positive ? no I thought not then you have to show his image for how is presenting him self simply trolling here is just not allowed.

LOL..rright............so called 'negative ratings' of an Indian in a Pakistani defence forum full of Pakistani and Chinese posters, half of whom are 'Think Tanks' with such rating power, and half of those 'Think Tanks' being juvenile in terms of their mental maturity level always feeling happy to mark 'negative' to any post that they disagree with; must speak 'a lot' about a person, no? And all that when scoundrels like this poster quoted below gets away with such posts without any negative rating in the presence of a 'Think Tank' like you......right.


That's right ........
 
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No, we didn't.
Then you surrendered Aksai Chin or is there another variable that I missed?

Nehru made another delusional blunder
Well he was Indian PM. There is always chain of events that lead to any event. Fact is India surrendered/lost huge tract of land, Aksai Chin against a adversary who was in the same league.

Pakistan also lost land, but less than what India did in a calculated, strategic manner so designed to produce a positive strategic situation with a country way out of it's league.

Yet all we hear is the constant refrain that Pakistan gave up land to China - as if India did not surrender the huge Aksai Chin, which was taken off India in the most unceremonial way.
 
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Wont work boss! G may agg nai lava nikal raha hai
 
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Beijing promises to stand by Islamabad in any eventuality
‘China fears for regional peace amid India’s aggression’
November 07, 2016
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ISLAMABAD - China believes the ongoing Pakistan-India skirmishes along the Line of Control (LoC) and the Working Boundary had the potential to disturb the regional peace, senior officials here said citing recent communications with Beijing.

China is the only powerful country that has stood with Pakistan during the unrelenting tension with India as other influential nations chose to issue only “diplomatic statements”.

Pakistan also received realistic support from Russia after Moscow started to take Islamabad as a friend amid improving ties.

The United States remained mainly on India’s side but fell short of abandoning Pakistan.

Washington has been calling for dialogue between the two countries, while simultaneously asking Pakistan to be sterner in its anti-terror fight.

A senior official at the foreign ministry told The Nation, China was concerned over the defiance of India and feared this could escalate into a war.

“They are worried over violations by India on a daily basis, which could hurt regional peace,” he said.

The official said Beijing had promised to stand by Islamabad in any eventuality – diplomatically, and practically.

On Sunday, Pakistan accused Indian army of opening unprovoked fire across the LoC and targeting the civilian population.

The firing occurred in Battal sector of Rawalakot and continued for several hours.

No loss of life was reported, said the military.

India has violated the ceasefire more than 100 times this year alone.

Pakistan and India declared ceasefire along the LoC and the Working Boundary in 2003.

But both accuse each other of violating the ceasefire as tensions between the two countries have worsened since last month.

The escalation has caused civilian casualties.

Earlier, Defence Minister Khawaja Mohammed Asif said armed forces would defend every inch of the motherland at every cost.

He said: “India’s real face is exposed as it is supporting terrorism in Pakistan and creating tension on the border through unprovoked firing along the Working Boundary and the LoC.”

On Sunday, Pakistan again called upon the United Nations to dispatch a fact-finding mission to the occupied Kashmir to check Indian atrocities.

In a meeting with the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra’ad Al-Hussein in New York, Pakistan’s ambassador to the United Nations Maleeha Lodhi said India’s rejection to allow fact-finding mission is in fact an acknowledgment of the grave atrocities being committed by its occupation forces.

Separately Minister for Kashmir Affairs Chaudhry Barjees Tahir said Kashmiris would succeed in their struggle for right to self-determination.

In a statement, he said that the Indian brutalities would not make the Kashmiris abandon their freedom movement.

The foreign ministry official said China had also been in contact with India seeking to end the LoC and working boundary violations to maintain regional peace.

“They are convinced India is playing with the fire. This could result in anything, even a full-fledged war,” he added.

Another official said Pakistan had been in contact with India through the back-channels and asking them to review their policy of irritating the neighbours.

“India is just trying to divert international attention from Kashmir. There is no other reason for escalating tensions,” he maintained.

Defence analyst Lt-Gen Moeenuddin Haider (retd) said Pakistan had the capability and political will to respond to any Indian aggression but war was not in favour of any country or the region.

“India wants war but forgets it will only be destructive for the region as a whole. Pakistan will not sit silent, if India attacks or violates the LoC,” he said.

Haider, a former interior minister, said Pakistan’s armed forces were well-prepared to defeat any attack.

“Pakistan and our best friend China have been raising voices for peace,” he said.

World affairs expert Dr Talat Wizarat said it was high time for India to realise that it was violating human rights in Kashmir.

“India is firing across the LoC only to hide its illegitimate occupation in Kashmir and the atrocities on the unarmed Kashmiris,” she added.

Dr Wizarat expressed disappointment over the involvement of Indian intelligence agencies’ officials in subversive activities in Pakistan.

Meanwhile, on Sunday, Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee condemned Indian atrocities in Kashmir.

In a statement, the committee urged the United Nations to play its due role in granting Kashmiris their right to self-determination.

It said Kashmiris’ freedom struggle will soon reap its fruit and India cannot suppress their movement through use of power.

The committee said freedom was the fundamental right of the followers of every religion.

It said the people’ struggling for their right of independence are not terrorists.



Published in The Nation newspaper on 07-Nov-2016
Yeah, indeed, Indian foreign policy is deceptive and aggressive, seeming to be so since around 2005 or so..
 
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Soviets disintegrated by the 80s Cuba still stood in defiance agaisnt the US!
Soviet Union existed upto 1991. By that time US/Cuba had stabilized to a 'very cold'. Cuba did nothing to disturb the status quo therefore the equation set prior to demise of Soviet Union continued and to a degree persists.

The lines had been laid post Cuban Missile Crisis in which Soviet Union was intrumental - or Cuba would have been invaded. You don't believe that US was prepared to fight in far away Vietnam but was cowed by tiny Cuba right next to Florida?
 
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Soviet Union existed upto 1991. By that time US/Cuba had stabilized to a 'very cold'. Cuba did nothing to disturb the status quo therefore the equation set prior to demise of Soviet Union continued and to a degree persists.

The lines had been laid post Cuban Missile Crisis in which Soviet Union was intrumental - or Cuba would have been invaded. You don't believe that US was prepared to fight in far away Vietnam but was cowed by tiny Cuba right next to Florida?
Did the US win vietnam or were they humiliated? I feel you need Uncle Sam on your side as it gives you reassurance. With Mr Trump, trumping his horn about his alliance with India you have zero chance of getting the US on your side. Like I've explained, China is a business partner it does what needs to just like the massive investment in East Africa because it suits its need. I suppose you will penalise me for suggesting Pakistan to stand on its own? Or would you like Pakistan to continue to live under the shadows of US, China, Russia? If so, please continue to believe everything will be fine. Another war, another decade and one of these nations will hire Pakistan as a gun for any of their future conflict.
 
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And your comparing Vietnam with Cuba? Seriously?
No bud just simply asking the question who actually won since you brought up Vietnam? Have you Already forgotten? which one of the nations do you want Pakistan to be hired for? Seriously?

And your comparing Vietnam with Cuba? Seriously?
Who is actually comparing Vietnam to Cuba? The topic is about Pakistan and China.
 
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who actually won
Vietnam won. You brought up Vietnam therefore implying that Cuba fended of US by showing the same spirit as Vietnam.

(i) Cuba is far, far smaller than Vietnam.
(ii) Cuba is 90 miles from US coast. Vietnam is on other side of the world.
(iii) Cuba is a island therefore it could easily be blockaded.

which one of the nations do you want Pakistan to be hired for?
Nations don't get hired. Private persons get hired. Try to differantiate between former and latter.
 
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Vietnam won. You brought up Vietnam therefore implying that Cuba fended of US by showing the same spirit as Vietnam.

(i) Cuba is far, far smaller than Vietnam.
(ii) Cuba is 90 miles from US coast. Vietnam is on other side of the world.
(iii) Cuba is a island therefore it could easily be blockaded.

Nationa don't get hired. Private persons get hired. Try to differantiate between former and latter.
Your getting ahead of yourself I didn't bring up Vietnam you did. Refer back to your message!
 
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I feel you need Uncle Sam on your side as it gives you reassurance. ....... Like I've explained, China is a business partner it does what needs to just like the massive investment in East Africa because it suits its need................. Or would you like Pakistan to continue to live under the shadows of US, China, Russia?

Like you said, China is a business partner and we need a business partner. We don't need reassurances and gone are the days of US-Pak bonhomie.

Is India prepared to stop living under Russian/US shadow and stand on its own?
 
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