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Beijing is testing strategic waters in India’s backyard

NEW DELHI, January 29: When he leaves his calling card in the island state of Seychelles next week, Chinese President Hu Jintao will raise the stakes in the unfolding competition with India for naval influence in the Indian Ocean.

As Hu embarks on the first Chinese presidential visit to a Western Indian Ocean island state, New Delhi might be hard pressed to protect its own growing economic and security relationship with Seychelles.

The exotic islands of Seychelles might be a favoured destination for rich honeymooners, but they hardly figure on the travel itinerary of the world leaders, let along those of the great powers. No wonder then that the South Block mandarins are raising eyebrows at Beijing’s announcement that Seychelles is the last stop in Hu’s eight-nation African tour beginning Tuesday.

New Delhi’s security establishment has come to believe, somewhat complacently, that the Indian Ocean will eventually be “India’s Ocean”. One of the principal consequences of Hu’s visit to Seychelles would be to dispel that delusion.

India has not been unaware of the growing Chinese interest in the Indian Ocean island states. Sustaining access to the oil riches of the Persian Gulf and the mineral wealth of Africa has become an important national security objective for Beijing.

Amidst the rising profile of the Chinese Navy in the Indian Ocean, New Delhi was certainly conscious of the Chinese attempts at establishing military links with the island states.

Seychelles might not have many people; its population today is barely 85,000. Its sprawling 115 islands, however, make Seychelles one of the most important real estates in the Indian Ocean. Although the land area of Seychelles is only 435 sq km, it has an Exclusive Economic Zone of nearly 1.3 million sq km.

While international oil companies are beginning to explore for hydrocarbons in its waters, the world’s naval powers have always understood the military significance of Seychelles, close to some of the most important sea lanes in the world.

A couple of years ago, India had to pre-empt a Chinese offer on naval assistance to Seychelles. In February 2005, the Indian Naval Chief, Adm Arun Prakash, gifted the “INS Tarmugli” to the Seychelles Coast Guard.

The Naval Headquarters here considered the request from Seychelles so urgent that it decided to pull the ship out of its own fleet barely three years after commissioning. Delay on India’s part would have seen Chinese Navy stepping in.

Having won that brief diplomatic skirmish, India could not have anticipated that Beijing would queer the pitch for New Delhi by fielding its top political gun in Seychelles.

For the moment though, India’s presence in Seychelles is robust. Seychelles has about 6000 people of Indian origin. India’s economic presence is marked by Bharti Airtel which runs a local telecom network.

India has trained large numbers of police and military men from Seychelles. A memorandum of understanding on defence cooperation was signed when then Vice President Bhairon Singh Shekhawat visited Seychelles in 2003. India had also gifted a few helicopters to Seychelles over the years. Indian naval ships routinely visit Seychelles.

High-level visits between India and Seychelles have been frequent, and have included a visit by Prime Minister Indira Gandhi way back in 1981. However, China now is all set to compete with its intense high-level political attention.

Seychelles President James Alix Michel was in Beijing last November to participate in the first China-Africa summit. Barely three months later, Hu is on a return visit to Seychelles. Given the small size of Seychelles’ economy and the limited nature of its requirements, China has few difficulties in rapidly expanding its influence in the island state. Hu’s visit next week will underline Beijing’s political will to build an enduring strategic presence in the Western Indian Ocean.

Hu’s sojourn in Seychelles comes at a moment, when China is actively seeking to establish its maritime presence in a number of Indian Ocean states, including Sri Lanka, Maldives, Mauritius and Madagascar. No one doubts India’s desire to retain its foothold in these geopolitically crucial island states. But question marks remain on whether India has a strategy to cope China’s dramatic entry into the Western Indian Ocean.
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/22072.html
 
Good move by China! :thumbsup:

China is doing much more for Africa than even the USA or EU. India is set to lose territory to the Chinese here on both economic and strategic grounds.
 
They wont. They already got Myanmar in their bag. And Madagascar and Sri-lanka. In any case, the importance of Sri-Lanka as a port will completely fade as soon as the Sethu-Samudram project is completed, it will raise India's importance in IOR even more.

What we dont have, and are in the danger of losing are : Bangladesh, Maldives and Seychelles. And we have very good ties with Seychelles. This visit by Hu would act like a catalyst for the Indian babus. Dont worry, Seychelles is not going anywhere.

The only places that might go are Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Maldives. We need to comtrol Bangladesh and Maldives somehow. Bangladesh being just besides us, we can exert strong influence there if the govt works its cards right, for now we have pathetic relations with Bangaldesh, and Maldives is so so. We should act with urgency in these two countries.
There is no problem in any other country.
 
They wont. They already got Myanmar in their bag. And Madagascar and Sri-lanka. In any case, the importance of Sri-Lanka as a port will completely fade as soon as the Sethu-Samudram project is completed, it will raise India's importance in IOR even more.

What we dont have, and are in the danger of losing are : Bangladesh, Maldives and Seychelles. And we have very good ties with Seychelles. This visit by Hu would act like a catalyst for the Indian babus. Dont worry, Seychelles is not going anywhere.

The only places that might go are Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Maldives. We need to comtrol Bangladesh and Maldives somehow. Bangladesh being just besides us, we can exert strong influence there if the govt works its cards right, for now we have pathetic relations with Bangaldesh, and Maldives is so so. We should act with urgency in these two countries.
There is no problem in any other country.
I dont completely agree with your analysis. I think you have missed this headline:
Maldives to join Indian security net during Antony's visit

Regarding your views on Bangladesh and Sri Lanka: Traditionally, all these countries: India, pakistan, Sri Lanka Bangladesh, Nepal, Burma etc are natural allies - They share the same culture and values. China are a different civilization and in that vein, all these countries should (have) align with each other - but not to be. Now, the kind of feeling the bangladeshis on this forum carry for us, they are better left on their own. Sri Lanka always shows up with a pretty smile to us but they are not as reliable as you would think. in 1972 war, they sided with Pakistan. They have learnt their lesson but still they are not reliable. Nepal is ok but then they have a communist govt there with support from China. Plus wherever there is poverty, things are up for sale and I am afraid the whole of South Asia is poor and China has the money to buy things on wholesale.
 
I dont completely agree with your analysis. I think you have missed this headline:
Maldives to join Indian security net during Antony's visit

Regarding your views on Bangladesh and Sri Lanka: Traditionally, all these countries: India, pakistan, Sri Lanka Bangladesh, Nepal, Burma etc are natural allies - They share the same culture and values. China are a different civilization and in that vein, all these countries should (have) align with each other - but not to be. Now, the kind of feeling the bangladeshis on this forum carry for us, they are better left on their own. Sri Lanka always shows up with a pretty smile to us but they are not as reliable as you would think. in 1972 war, they sided with Pakistan. They have learnt their lesson but still they are not reliable. Nepal is ok but then they have a communist govt there with support from China. Plus wherever there is poverty, things are up for sale and I am afraid the whole of South Asia is poor and China has the money to buy things on wholesale.


What he said was in 2007 now it is 2009 .There is a change in global Dynamics now and then.The Chinese can never secure logistics in the IOR .PLAN will also never try to engage InNavy in the IOR it is plain suicide for them
 
What he said was in 2007 now it is 2009 .There is a change in global Dynamics now and then.The Chinese can never secure logistics in the IOR .PLAN will also never try to engage InNavy in the IOR it is plain suicide for them

No man, this news was on 8/14/09. India is going to install radars in maldives feeding back to India and deploy 2 navy helicopters there. Maldives is in our net.
 
Alright it no like China can simply bring nations onto its side just because it wants to. One visit is not gonna change that. they might make some leeway, and its not a zero sum game here. Some of these countries want the benefits of both India and china. what ever china does by getting these string of pearls many of these nations will still want to remain neutral in any conflict. And they are still their ports. not china's

They aren't exactly staging grounds for massive chines fleets.

Besides If India wants access to the west pacific which China wants as its backyard.we can have our ships put in Japan or South Korea. Technically China has always been surrounded, except Pakistan:lazy: and Mongolia. its just trying to even the playing field. Keyword:trying
 
since when India ocean is India's backyard?

we are planning to have 6 aircraft carrier groups in the years to come, how you guys can match up with us?

it is all about $$$, you simply can't afford to have that.
 
Alright it no like China can simply bring nations onto its side just because it wants to. One visit is not gonna change that. they might make some leeway, and its not a zero sum game here. Some of these countries want the benefits of both India and china. what ever china does by getting these string of pearls many of these nations will still want to remain neutral in any conflict. And they are still their ports. not china's

They aren't exactly staging grounds for massive chines fleets.

Besides If India wants access to the west pacific which China wants as its backyard.we can have our ships put in Japan or South Korea. Technically China has always been surrounded, except Pakistan:lazy: and Mongolia. its just trying to even the playing field. Keyword:trying


:rofl::rofl::rofl: wow man awesome
 
Besides If India wants access to the west pacific which China wants as its backyard.we can have our ships put in Japan or South Korea. Technically China has always been surrounded, except Pakistan:lazy: and Mongolia. its just trying to even the playing field. Keyword:trying

some quick reminder - China is Japan and Korea's largest trade partner. Korea's stability heavily relies on our policies. Japan aims to have a large share of market in our mainland which they see as a must for their recovery.

now you day dreaming that they will let your sinking ships there? this is as stupid as saying we can have our ships in Singerpore which is effectively a Chinese ethnic country.
 
it is amazing to see some brainwashed Indians here keep posting purely based on their nationalism.

what countries are surrounding China? let's have a look at some of them:

North Korea - our puppet state.
Vietnam - we can capture their capital in a few weeks, we at least did that half dozen times in history.
Japan - even don't have a full scale armed force.
India - 3000 KIA, 3000 captured in the 1962 war.

:smokin:
 
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