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Beijing fires warning shot on arms sales to Taiwan

Everybody is good in giving advises to everyone else, India to Pakistan, India to China, China to India, Pakistan to India, but just keep giving advises not doing anything practical.

India cries when Pakistan get weapons, so let China cry too, why would it be solely Indian right to just do hue and cry on weapons sale to Pakistan ??? Why can't other countries do the same.

So before giving advices to others, looking into oneself also is good sometimes.

Its common in diplomatic corridor to raise the concern if an advisory tests or buys new weapons..why making a big fuss about it?..Every country does it ..I told this to a staff member of your and she certified me as a stupid .. :disagree:
 
Its common in diplomatic corridor to raise the concern if an advisory tests or buys new weapons..why making a big fuss about it?..Every country does it ..I told this to a staff member of your and she certified me as a stupid .. :disagree:

Do you want to repeat it here...

let me tell you again, there is difference between Protest & Crying
 
Do you want to repeat it here...

let me tell you again, there is difference between Protest & Crying

no comments we will go offtopic..BTW see this scenario and that also, both protested about potential future arms deal..and you said that crying and this as protest .. :)
 
no comments we will go offtopic..BTW see this scenario and that also, both protested about potential future arms deal..and you said that crying and this as protest .. :)

let me give you an example of 'crying'
Despite India's protests, Vietnam buys arms from Pakistan

New Delhi, Aug 17 (IANS) Ignoring concerns of its long standing ally India, Vietnam has purchased a second consignment of small arms from Pakistan.

According to Jane's Defence Weekly, Vietnam acquired 100 SMG-PK 9 mm submachine guns and 50 sniper rifles from the state-run Pakistan Ordnance Factories (POF) in Rawalpindi as a follow-on order to an equal number of similar weapons it purchased last year.


The SMG-PK is configured on the Heckler & Koch MP5 series of which four models are available.


India, which has burgeoning defence relations with Hanoi, 'discreetly' protested the acquisition by Vietnam's police ministry for its counter-terrorism unit, Jane's reports, but to little avail.


Military analysts in New Delhi said India's hesitancy in vindicating its assurances to Vietnam of providing it varied military hardware, including the locally designed surface-to-surface Prithvi missile, could well be responsible for Hanoi turning to Pakistan, albeit to partially meet its defence requirements.


India's vast military-industrial complex also does not produce submachine guns or sniper rifles, despite years of attempts by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to design both.


India recently imported sniper rifles from Israel while a contract to import submachine guns and carbines is under consideration by the army.


'India is handicapped by its excessive caution in boldly exercising its strategic options coupled with its highly complex and uncoordinated procedures required to export military goods,' Major General Sheru Thapliyal (retd) said. In a world of quick shifting strategic alignments, India will be left behind if it does not resolve both these shortcomings, he warned.


India strongly supported North Vietnam in its war with the US in the 1960s and 1970s in the face of tremendous Western opposition and began developing defence ties with it in the mid-1990s as part of its wider Look East approach.


This strategy proliferated in recent years as nuclear rival China, with its peaceful rise, has steadily been fashioning political, economic and military dependencies around its strategic periphery particularly in East and Southeast Asia through multilateral economic and military engagement.


There is also a growing feeling amongst Indian and Western analysts that Asia's strategic architecture created over decades by the US through its military deployments and engagement policies appears to be crumbling, giving way to an ascendant China.


This, in turn, was fostering a deep sense of uncertainty and insecurity among many Asian states, including India, even though diplomatic, military economic and political ties between Delhi and Beijing were steadily improving.


By developing defence ties with Vietnam, however, India is aiming to counter China's firmly established 'string of pearls' strategy of clinching regional military and security agreements from the Persian Gulf to the South China Sea and of expanding its profile and assets in the Indian Ocean region.


To tighten the maritime 'noose' around India, China is investing heavily in developing Gwadar port on nuclear ally Pakistan's western Makran coast and nurturing long standing military, political and commercial links with Myanmar.


Additionally, China has firmed up strategic, defence and economic ties with Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka and the Maldives.


Strategists term India's tentative response as its 'string of diamonds' strategy whereby it seeks to build partnerships and relations with friends and allies like Vietnam to build regional partnerships.


As part of this feeble riposte to China's regional pro-activity, India recently reconfirmed its defence ties with Vietnam providing for bilateral military cooperation, sale of military wares like the locally developed advanced light helicopter (ALH) and assistance in overhauling and providing spares to Hanoi's ageing MiG series fighter aircraft.


The agreement also provides a framework under which Vietnamese officers would train the Indian Army in jungle warfare and counter-insurgency operations.


It also includes bilateral cooperation between India's Coast Guard and the Vietnamese Sea Police in combating piracy, reciprocal visits by senior military officers and regular exchange of intelligence.


'Agreements are meaningless unless delivered upon,' Thapliyal said. Otherwise, friends will seek help elsewhere, he added.
 
Just imagine the Chinese or the Russian selling their arms to Canada or any other US neighbour. The hue and cry will be beyond imagination.

The USA does cry ("object") to arms sales by China to Venezuela and to Cuba by Russia. Neither pays any attention to the USA. If China doesn't want Taiwan to buy weapons from the USA it should agree to a non-aggression treaty with Taiwan. Problem solved.

As for Canada, the USA provides 80% of Canada's credible defense against outside threats so Canada would be stupid to want weapons from Russia or China. It already has a great defense "deal" from the USA.
 
let me give you an example of 'crying'

Well then let me give you some too...
ISLAMABAD, Jan. 22 (Xinhua) -- Pakistan on Wednesday criticized India, saying its latest 3 billion US dollars arms deal with Russia will further aggravate the already tense situation in the South Asian region, according to the Associated Press of Pakistan (APP).

The deal included nuclear propelled submarines, strategic bombers, joint development of a fifth generation fighter aircraft and the setting up of joint ventures on the pattern of the supersonic Brahmos cruise missile, APP quoted a Foreign Office spokesman as saying. The spokesman made the ...

and another...

VIENNA, July 23: Pakistan has warned that a deal leading to increased Indian access to nuclear fuel could accelerate the atomic arms race in the subcontinent, according to a letter obtained on Wednesday by The Associated Press.

The letter addressed to more than 60 nations comes less than two weeks before the 35-nation International Atomic Energy Agency board is expected to approve a so-called safeguards agreement setting up rules for inspecting some of India’s civilian nuclear facilities.

Approval of the safeguards deal is key to India’s efforts to gain access to legal imports of nuclear fuel and technology from a 45-nation consortium known as the Nuclear Suppliers Group.

Islamabad warns in the letter dated July 18 and addressed to members of the IAEA board and Nuclear Suppliers Group that the safeguards agreement would hurt non-proliferation efforts and “threatens to increase the chances of a nuclear arms race in the subcontinent.”—AP


Feel free to ask for more....
 
Well then let me give you some too...

and another...


Feel free to ask for more....

look at that ehh
Pakistan has warned that a deal leading to increased Indian access to nuclear fuel could accelerate the atomic arms race in the subcontinent, according to a letter obtained on Wednesday by The Associated Press.

Aint this right, on one side Indians think that they can get what ever they want on the other hand they create hysteria over Pakistani nuclear program, look at the video below..


now i will have to reapt again read under heading "Despite India's protests, Vietnam buys arms from Pakistan"

Now if DRDo can't even provide small arms to Vietnam on time & Vietnamese turned towards our MP-5s & sniper rifles(that too not in a huge numbers) then Indian protest is no longer a 'protest'
Understand difference between Protest & Cry
 
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'Understand difference between Protest & Cry'

In the eyes of the beholder.

BTW Pakistani MP5s are licence produced.
 
Now listen to me In first one quoted portion its about


Aint this right, on one side Indians think that they can get what ever they want on the other hand they create hysteria over Pakistani nuclear program, look at the video below..

lQ6hwoxNJII[/media] - Pak rtrd general slaps stupid Indian journalist

now i will have to reapt again read under heading "Despite India's protests, Vietnam buys arms from Pakistan"

Now if DRDo can't even provide small arms to Vietnam on time & Vietnamese turned towards our MP-5s & sniper rifles(that too not in a huge numbers) then Indian protest is no longer a 'protest'
Understand difference between Protest & Cry

You can interpret facts as you like but they still stand, India protests agains Pakistan, Pakistan against India, China against India...
 
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You can interpret facts as you like but they still stand, India protests agains Pakistan, Pakistan against India, China against India...

i have given you facts from Indian news paper

Indians lost the contract for Small arms to Vietnam & India is 'protesting' over sale of a few MP-5s, cool
 
Do you want to repeat it here...

let me tell you again, there is difference between Protest & Crying

We know the difference

When India opposes -- Crying
When China opposes-- Protest

:angel:

hypocrisy eh?
 
We know the difference

When India opposes -- Crying
When China opposes-- Protest

:angel:

hypocrisy eh?

Wow, hypocrisy at its best. To you guys hypocrisy of others is clearly visible, and owns hypocrisy can't be seen.

Ironic, eh ???
 
A dangerous game being played by the US when it is in such a dire economical situation where China is playing a big role in keeping the US economy afloat. China could pull the plug and the US dollar would fall massively allowing China and Indian markets to burst open.

Currently the two, India and China are holding back quite a bit and they are in a way pushing down there businesses from growing too far but when that bubble bursts, the economies of both India and China will be unmatched.

Partly to blame would be the Arab world, who have slowly and carefully, started to move away from the American dollar, thus encouraging other countries to follow suit, (one of the reasons Bush wanted to bomb Iran, who was the first country to change over currency and openly announced it).

None of the American bankers know what tomorrow holds let alone a year down the line.

The US should choose who to cross very carefully in these troubled and unpredictable times.
 
The USA does cry ("object") to arms sales by China to Venezuela and to Cuba by Russia. Neither pays any attention to the USA. If China doesn't want Taiwan to buy weapons from the USA it should agree to a non-aggression treaty with Taiwan. Problem solved.

As for Canada, the USA provides 80% of Canada's credible defense against outside threats so Canada would be stupid to want weapons from Russia or China. It already has a great defense "deal" from the USA.

Non-aggression treaty? That sounds trivial. Especially since your own government acts unilaterally by invading random countries. How about the Americans first signing up treaties before handing out lectures?

Well, don't take the Canadian example too literally. It was an example to make some people understand about US double standards and nothing more. I hope you got the message.
 

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