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Iranian asylum-seekers used stolen passports on Malaysia Airlines flight

Interpol said Tuesday that the two passengers who used stolen passports to board a Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared early Saturday morning were Iranians seeking asylum in Europe.

Interpol Secretary General Ronald K. Noble identified the men as Pouri Nourmohammadi, 19, and Delavar Seyedmohammaderza, 29. Noble said that the two men had traveled to Malaysia from Tehran using Iranian passports, but had secured stolen Italian and Austrian passports in Kuala Lumpur for their journey to Beijing and Amsterdam, for which both had tickets and planned to travel together.

Malaysian authorities said that Nourmohammadi planned to proceed from Amsterdam to Frankfurt, Germany, where his mother lives. The woman contacted authorities when her son failed to arrive as planned. The BBC reported that Seyedmohammaderza's intended final destination was Copenhagen, Denmark.

The disclosure by Interpol confirmed a report aired late Monday by the BBC's Persian service, which cited a friend of both men who hosted them at his home in Kuala Lumpur as they prepared to travel to Beijing, the final destination of the missing plane.

Over the weekend, the passports were identified as belonging to 30-year-old Austrian Christian Kozel and 37-year-old Italian Luigi Maraldi. Both men had reported that their passports had been stolen while they were traveling in Thailand.

It was not made immediately clear how the passports were sent from Thailand to Kuala Lumpur.

Sources told Fox News it is not uncommon for Iranians to travel to and from Malaysia, or to buy one-way tickets through third parties. They said the fact that the man believed to have purchased the tickets on behalf of two Iranians traveling with stolen passports seemed to be seeking the cheapest fares within a range of dates does not jibe with typical terrorism plots. The sources familiar with Iranian travel patterns also said use of stolen passports is common for those involved in the drug trade, those wanting to study or work abroad and even Iranians who seek political, religious or social refuge.

A BBC Persian editor told Britain's Daily Telegraph
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that the Iranians were "looking for a place to settle." Both Malaysia and Thailand are home to large Iranian communities.

"We know that once these individuals arrived in Kuala Lumpur on the 28th of February they boarded flight 370 using different identities, a stolen Austrian and a stolen Italian passport," Noble said, according to Reuters
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. But he added that Interpol believes no other suspect passports were used to board the plane.

“The more information we get, the more we are inclined to conclude it is not a terrorist incident,” he said.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 vanished from radar screens early Saturday local time with 239 people on board, shortly after takeoff from Kuala Lumpur. In the absence of any sign that the plane was in trouble before it vanished, speculation has ranged widely, including pilot error, plane malfunction, hijacking and terrorism. The last theory had focused on the reports that two stolen passports had been used by passengers on the plane.

Earlier Tuesday, Malaysia Airlines said in a statement that the western coast of the country, near the Straits of Malacca, was "now the focus" of search efforts. That is on the other side of peninsular Malaysia from where flight 370 was reported missing, meaning if the plane went down there it would have had to fly over the country, presumably undetected. No debris from the plane has been found.

Civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said expanding the search area didn't imply authorities believed the plane was off the western coast.

"The search is on both sides," he said.

But Reuters, quoting a Malaysian military official who has been briefed on the investigations, reported Tuesday that the country’s military believes the plane was last tracked by radar over the Straits of Malacca.

"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," said the official, who was not named. Kota Bharu is a city on Malaysia’s east coast.

The search currently includes nine aircraft and 24 ships from nine countries that have been scouring the Gulf of Thailand on the eastern side of Malaysia.

Assuming the plane crashed into the ocean or disintegrated in midair, there will likely still be debris floating in the ocean, but it may be widely spread out, and much may have already sunk. In past disasters, it has taken days or longer to find wreckage.

The United States has sent two navy ships, at least one of which is equipped with helicopters, and a Navy P-3C Orion plane with sensors that can detect small debris in the water. It said in a statement that the Malaysian government has done "tremendous job" organizing the search efforts.

Vietnam's deputy military chief also said he had ordered a land search for the plane up to border with Laos and Cambodia. He said that military units near the border with Laos and Cambodia had been instructed to search their regions also.

"So far we have found no signs (of the plane) ... so we must widen our search on land," said Lt. Gen. Vo Van Tuan, deputy chief of staff of Vietnamese People's Army.

The Chinese People's Liberation Army Daily newspaper said Beijing had deployed 10 satellites that will use high-resolution earth imaging capabilities and other technology to "support and assist in the search and rescue operations for the Malaysian Airlines aircraft."

The Chinese satellites will also help in weather monitoring, communication and search operations in the area where the plane disappeared, Reuters quoted the newspaper as saying.

The announcements reflect the difficulty authorities are having in finding the plane. China has urged Malaysia to speed up the search for the plane. About two-thirds of passengers and 12 crew members on the plane were Chinese, according to Reuters.

Iranian asylum-seekers used stolen passports on Malaysia Airlines flight | Fox News
 
This is getting interesting. Malaysia had banned Shias from entering their country, boycotted product and cut their relationship with Iran recently late last year. Revenge or message? The Shias are Iranian loyalist so they can be agents.

Many Middle Eastern nations suffer from Iran's terrorism due to the hatred they have against each other for historical reason.

oh please stop speculating and vilifying Shias , why not broaden your conspiracy to the Malaysian opposition ?
 
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Woman remembers cockpit fun with missing pilot

Jonti Roos, who lives in Melbourne, came forward with photos of her posing with a man she claims is 27-year-old Fariq Abdul Hamid - the first officer on missing flight MH370.

She told A Current Affair she and a friend were ready to board a flight from Phuket to Kuala Lumpur in 2011 when the two pilots asked if they would spend the duration of the international flight in the cockpit.

Ms Roos says they were seated in the cockpit during takeoff and landing and that the pilots even asked the girls to stay a few nights in Kuala Lumpur with them.

"Throughout the entire flight they were talking to us and they were actually smoking throughout the flight, which I don't think they're allowed to do," Ms Roos said.

"[They were] possibly a little bit sleazy. They invited us, well asked us, if we could arrange our trip to stay a few extra nights."



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Now we can see how the staff of Malaysia Airlines did, it's too ridiculous!! They lack the most basic professional requirements. How could they let passengers sit into the cockpit and ***?
 
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were there any loose blondes on flight MH370? If so, pilot error could be the most likely cause lol
 
独家字幕视频【澳女孩:失联航班副驾驶曾请我进驾驶舱】澳大利亚第九频道新闻栏目11日报道,一名澳洲女孩爆料,她2011年乘坐马航航班时,机长及副驾驶邀请她与朋友一起进入驾驶舱,允许她们在飞行途中拍照。报道称,当时这位副驾驶正是失联航班的副驾驶。该女孩贴出多张照片为证。

Woman remembers cockpit fun with missing pilot

Jonti Roos, who lives in Melbourne, came forward with photos of her posing with a man she claims is 27-year-old Fariq Abdul Hamid - the first officer on missing flight MH370.

She told A Current Affair she and a friend were ready to board a flight from Phuket to Kuala Lumpur in 2011 when the two pilots asked if they would spend the duration of the international flight in the cockpit.

Ms Roos says they were seated in the cockpit during takeoff and landing and that the pilots even asked the girls to stay a few nights in Kuala Lumpur with them.

"Throughout the entire flight they were talking to us and they were actually smoking throughout the flight, which I don't think they're allowed to do," Ms Roos said.

"[They were] possibly a little bit sleazy. They invited us, well asked us, if we could arrange our trip to stay a few extra nights."

Oh god not dumb pilot stuff like this again. There have been a few crashes where there were people in the cockpit and stuff like that.

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This story is from an Australian tabloid show.

This imbecile woman doesn't know about auto-pilots and the fact that pilots don't need to watch the instrument panel every second during the flight.

Her credibility is shot to hell when she claims she was in the cockpit during take-off and landing and the pilots had their backs to the instruments all the time. Does she seriously expect people to believe that the plane took off and landed all on autopilot?
 
This story is from an Australian tabloid show.

This imbecile woman doesn't know about auto-pilots and the fact that pilots don't need to watch the instrument panel every second during the flight.

Her credibility is shot to hell when she claims she was in the cockpit during take-off and landing and the pilots had their backs to the instruments all the time. Does she seriously expect people to believe that the plane took off and landed all on autopilot?

Did you see the youtube video? In the video, you can see pictures in the cockpit with terrain features clearly visible in the photograph.These pictures were taken when the aircraft was on approach or climbing after take off.

The 777 is known as one of the safest aircraft ever built. I wouldn't rush to rule out anything at this stage
 
Search from Gulf of Thailand to Malacca ! Is there any place Malaysia lack ?

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Malaysia military tracked missing plane to west coast: source
KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Malaysia's military believes a jetliner missing for almost four days turned and flew hundreds of kilometers to the west after it last made contact with civilian air traffic control off the country's east coast, a senior officer told Reuters on Tuesday.

In one of the most baffling mysteries in recent aviation history, a massive search operation for the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER has so far found no trace of the aircraft or the 239 passengers and crew.

Malaysian authorities have previously said flight MH370 disappeared about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for the Chinese capital Beijing.

"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the senior military officer, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.

That would appear to rule out sudden catastrophic mechanical failure, as it would mean the plane flew around 500 km (350 miles) at least after its last contact with air traffic control, although its transponder and other tracking systems were off.

A non-military source familiar with the investigations said the report was one of several theories and was being checked.

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At the time it lost contact with civilian air traffic control, the plane was roughly midway between Malaysia's east coast town of Kota Bharu and the southern tip of Vietnam, flying at 35,000 ft.

The Strait of Malacca, one of the world's busiest shipping channels, runs along Malaysia's west coast.

Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper quoted air force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the plane was last detected at 2.40 a.m. by military radar near the island of Pulau Perak at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca. It was flying about 1,000 meters lower than its previous altitude, he was quoted as saying.

There was no word on what happened to the plane thereafter.

The effect of turning off the transponder is to make the aircraft inert to secondary radar, so civil controllers cannot identify it. Secondary radar interrogates the transponder and gets information about the plane's identity, speed and height.

It would however still be visible to primary radar, which is used by militaries.

Police had earlier said they were investigating whether any passengers or crew on the plane had personal or psychological problems that might explain its disappearance, along with the possibility of a hijack, sabotage or mechanical failure.

There was no distress signal or radio contact indicating a problem and, in the absence of any wreckage or flight data, police have been left trawling through passenger and crew lists for potential leads.

"Maybe somebody on the flight has bought a huge sum of insurance, who wants family to gain from it or somebody who has owed somebody so much money, you know, we are looking at all possibilities," Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar told a news conference.

"We are looking very closely at the video footage taken at the KLIA (Kuala Lumpur International Airport), we are studying the behavioral pattern of all the passengers."

A huge search operation for the plane has been mostly focused on the shallow waters of the Gulf of Thailand off Malaysia's east coast, although the Strait of Malacca has been included since Sunday.

Navy ships, military aircraft, helicopters, coastguard and civilian vessels from 10 nations have criss-crossed the seas off both coasts of Malaysia without success.

The massive search for the plane has drawn in navies, military aircraft, coastguard and civilian vessels from 10 nations.

STOLEN PASSPORTS

The fact that at least two passengers on board had used stolen passports has raised suspicions of foul play. But Southeast Asia is known as a hub for false documents that are also used by smugglers, illegal migrants and asylum seekers.

Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble named the two men as Iranians aged 18 and 29, who had entered Malaysia using their real passports before using the stolen European documents to board the Beijing-bound flight.

"The more information we get, the more we are inclined to conclude it is not a terrorist incident," Noble said.

Malaysian police chief Khalid said the younger man, who he said was 19, appeared to be an illegal immigrant. His mother was waiting for him in Frankfurt and had been in contact with authorities, he said.

"We believe he is not likely to be a member of any terrorist group, and we believe he was trying to migrate to Germany," Khalid said.

Asked if that meant he ruled out a hijack, Khalid said: "(We are giving) same weightage to all (possibilities) until we complete our investigations."

Both men entered Malaysia on Feb 28, at least one from Phuket, in Thailand, eight days before boarding the flight to Beijing, Malaysian immigration chief Aloyah Mamat told the news conference. Both held onward reservations to Western Europe.

Police in Thailand, where the Italian and Austrian passports were stolen and the tickets used by the two men were booked, said they did not think they were linked to the disappearance of the plane.

"We haven't ruled it out, but the weight of evidence we're getting swings against the idea that these men are or were involved in terrorism," Supachai Puikaewcome, chief of police in the Thai resort city of Pattaya, told Reuters.

About two-thirds of the 227 passengers and 12 crew now presumed to have died aboard the plane were Chinese. Other nationalities included 38 Malaysians, seven Indonesians, six Australians, five Indians, four French and three Americans.

China has deployed 10 satellites using high-resolution earth imaging capabilities, visible light imaging and other technologies to "support and assist in the search and rescue operations", the People's Liberation Army Daily said.

The Boeing 777 has one of the best safety records of any commercial aircraft in service. Its only previous fatal crash came on July 6 last year when Asiana Airlines Flight 214 struck a seawall on landing in San Francisco, killing three people.

U.S. planemaker Boeing has declined to comment beyond a brief statement saying it was monitoring the situation.

(Additional reporting by Siva Govindasamy, Stuart Grudgings, Raju Gopalakrishnan and Yantoultra Ngui in Kuala Lumpur; Ben Blanchard, Megha Rajagopalan and Adam Rose in Beijing; Nguyen Phuong Linh on Phu Quoc Island, Mai Nguyen and Martin Petty in Hanoi; Robert Birsel and Amy Sawitta Lefevre in Bangkok; Alwyn Scott in New York; Tim Hepher in Paris; Brian Leonal in Singapore; Mark Hosenball and Ian Simpson in Washington and Johnny Cotton in Lyon, France; Writing by Raju Gopalakrishnan; Editing by Alex Richardson)
 
One of the more "unconventional" explanations being offered...

The conspiracy theories surrounding missing flight MH370 | News.com.au

Conspiracy theorists say terrorists could have cut the transponders, dropped below the radar and flown the plane to an isolated airport somewhere in Vietnam — left over from the Vietnam War. The plane had at least seven hours worth of fuel on board and this theory is supported by the lack of wreckage.

The theory goes further with the possibility the plane could have been ‘cloaked’, technology that uses a hexagonal array of glasslike panels to bend light around an object.

There are suggestions this theory could be linked to the 20 passengers on board who worked for Texas company Freescale.

Citizen news site, Beforeitsnews.com said: “It is conceivable that the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 plane is “cloaked,” hiding with hi-tech electronic warfare weaponry that exists and is used. In fact, this type of technology is precisely the expertise of Freescale, that has 20 employees on board the missing flight”.
 
This story is from an Australian tabloid show.

This imbecile woman doesn't know about auto-pilots and the fact that pilots don't need to watch the instrument panel every second during the flight.

Her credibility is shot to hell when she claims she was in the cockpit during take-off and landing and the pilots had their backs to the instruments all the time. Does she seriously expect people to believe that the plane took off and landed all on autopilot

Planes can autoland, not too sure about take off, in fact if I remember correctly, Boeing 777s are certified CAT3b autoland and have to preform an Automatic Landing once a month to keep the certification. During Autoland, Autopilot would just use the data from ILS Approach and Both inflight data and glide slope to calculate the flight path and it would land themselves, without the pilot input.

And it is labeled "Unprofessional" for a pilot to talk to each other than landing and checklist item when approach to land. Conversation are sanitized during some period of flight. Most airlines require one pilot to monitor the instrument at all time while the other have command of the planes at all time. Qantas and SAS (Both airlines I worked for) required either a senior flight attendant or purser to be in the cockpit while one pilot taking a break. It's also an termination offence to invite unqualified guest to cockpits during flight. Even for a flight attendant, you need to be qualified to serve flight deck, the photo of those women (Assume they are not flight attendant) posting inside cockpits when the aircraft is in the air is already a very serious allegation.

Still, as far as I know, many pilot still do violate those rules, Many pilot during the 5 years I work in Airlines I know had once or more.invited unauthorized guest to the cockpit during black out
 
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Planes can autoland, not too sure about take off, in fact if I remember correctly, Boeing 777s are certified CAT3b autoland and have to preform an Automatic Landing once a month to keep the certification. During Autoland, Autopilot would just use the data from ILS Approach and Both inflight data and glide slope to calculate the flight path and it would land themselves, without the pilot input.

And it is labeled "Unprofessional" for a pilot to talk to each other than landing and checklist item when approach to land. Conversation are sanitized during some period of flight. Most airlines require one pilot to monitor the instrument at all time while the other have command of the planes at all time. Qantas and SAS (Both airlines I worked for) required either a senior flight attendant or purser to be in the cockpit while one pilot taking a break. It's also an termination offence to invite unqualified guest to cockpits during flight. Even for a flight attendant, you need to be qualified to serve flight deck, the photo of those women (Assume they are not flight attendant) posting inside cockpits when the aircraft is in the air is already a very serious allegation.

My understanding is that ILS is only supposed to be used under extreme weather/visibility/whatever scenario. Normally, a pilot is expected to land the plane manually.

Can the tower know if a plane is using ILS or is being landed manually?

It's one thing for a pilot to goof off if no one else will know, but I don't know if he would use ILS without justification just because he was chatting up a passenger.

Still, as far as I know, many pilot still do violate those rules, Many pilot during the 5 years I work in Airlines I know had once or more.invited unauthorized guest to the cockpit during black out

Totally.

I have been in an airline cockpit myself as a passenger. It happens more often than people think.
 
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