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B'desh steps up troops deployment on Myanmar border amid row

India will not support Burma. Why India should support BD as they only think India is going to kill them. Let them fight for their sovereignty. I am sure they are capable.

India will support Burma for the simple fact China will support Burma, Burma has a 98% chance of victory. India dosen't need to help BD in anyway,but India and China do have much to gain from a Burmese victory and this USA rescue question still has not been answered why would USA get involved in anyway to help BD??
 
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'cause we are friendly with each other?why wouldn't they?
Still I think we should do this by ourselves and it wouldn't be bad if we take a licking as long as we do no lose any ground or water to the Burmese.

BTW,why do we have such a low chance of losing?Are you judging by numbers alone?
 
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i am not judging by numbers but this whole war scenario is created to try to grab the natural gas that has been found in the waters by China, wars are more for economic reasons specifically resources, if China is doing it for this reason they will make sure they succeed that is why i put the numbers low does not mean BD will not put up strong resistance or hold heir ground.

Burma Steps Up Bangladesh Border Tension, but Why?

Burma Steps Up Bangladesh Border Tension, but Why?
By WAI MOE Thursday, March 19, 2009



Burmese military preparedness along the country’s land and sea borders with Bangladesh was stepped up this week, although the reason for the latest increase in tension is not clear.

Bangladeshi border troops were put on alert on March 16 after reporting unusual movements by Burmese forces, who also began to build a barbed wire fence along the 200 km frontier between the two countries.

Local Burmese authorities said the fence was being built to deter smuggling and human trafficking. Illegal immigration has been a problem for this border region of Burma’s Arakan State since colonial times.

Although the Burmese explanation for the fence is credible, Bangladesh military officials have told Dhaka newspapers that Burmese ships had been mobilized in the Bay of Bengal, increasing tension along the sea border.

Warships of the two countries were involved in a border standoff late last year when the Burmese regime attempted to drill for natural gas in a disputed area of the Bay of Bengal.

Some reports from Rangoon suggested that the latest tension between Burma and Bangladesh is being orchestrated by the Naypyidaw regime as a diversion in the run up to the 2010 election. It is suggested that problems with Burma’s Muslim neighbor are being provoked as a way of making “scapegoats” of Arakan State’s Muslim minority.

Anti-Muslim books and other publications are reportedly being distributed in Rangoon and towns in Arakan State.

The military regimes ruling Burma since 1962 have a history of creating false rumors against the country’s Muslim and Chinese minorities. Bloody riots sometimes resulted.

One common rumor accuses a Muslim man of raping a Buddhist woman, according to a Burmese political observer in Rangoon. “Many Burmese are not very tolerant of different religions and cultures,” he said.

There have been high-level visits by Burmese junta officials to the border region recently. Prime Minister Gen Thein Sein travelled there in late January and inspected government projects in the region.

Among the projects are highways connecting Rangoon and the Arakan towns of Sittwe and Kyaukphyu and a railroad between Arakan State and the west bank of the Irrawaddy River.

The junta’s number 2, Vice Snr-Gen Maung Aye, also travelled recently to Arakan State., but the purpose of his journey was not made public.

Other key Burmese ministers, including Information Minister Brig-Gen Kyaw Hsan, Construction Minister Maj-Gen Khin Maung Myint and Post and Telecommunication Minister Brig-Gen Thein Zaw also visited Arakan State in February. Kyaw Hsan opened TV transmitter stations and libraries.

“I think ruling generals made many trips to Arakan State recently because the anti-junta movement there is quite strong,” Aye Thar Aung, an Arakan leader, told The Irrawaddy on Thursday.

Aye Thar Aung said that although the authorities were distributing anti-Muslim papers in Arakan State, they would not influence public feeling. “The Arakan people see the issues of the Rohingyas and military rule as separate ones. Anti-Muslim propaganda will not make the people of Arakan State pro-junta.”

Western Burma is not only an important region for the Burmese junta but also of geopolitical and strategic interest for the junta’s closest ally, China. Beijing is scheduled to construct oil and gas pipelines from Arakan State’s Kyaukphyu Port to Yunnan Province in Southwest China in 2009. The US $2.5 billion project, which includes upgrading Kyaukpyu Port, is scheduled for completion by April 2013.

The pipelines will carry 85 percent of China’s Middle East oil imports, as well as Burmese natural gas from the Bay of Bengal.

The Chinese-financed projects were believed to have figured prominently in talks in Naypyidaw on Wednesday between junta leader Snr-Gen Than Shwe and Chen Bingde, chief of the General Staff of the Chinese People's Liberation Army, who is currently visiting Burma.
 
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'cause we are friendly with each other?why wouldn't they?
Still I think we should do this by ourselves and it wouldn't be bad if we take a licking as long as we do no lose any ground or water to the Burmese.

BTW,why do we have such a low chance of losing?Are you judging by numbers alone?

Do not rely on Uncle Sam for help. They usually do not send in troops to help a friend. Only support you can expect from the USA is logistics and intelligence. Only time that the USA sends in troops is when they are ready to enforce a change of regime with the support of the people. I do not think that Burma falls in that category. Bangladesh may as well keep cosy with India if it wants any involved military assistance. Thereafter, hopefully India will refrain from fencing off its boundaries to stop free inter continental civilian movement and trade competition. Just kidding !! :rofl:
 
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Logistics and intelligence will do fine.We have a lot of manpower to waste.Nearly 160 million of a population.
 
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Logistics and intelligence will do fine.We have a lot of manpower to waste.Nearly 160 million of a population.

Sadly, civilians are not the backbone of a nation's defence. When we entered Angola in the 80's, we were a bunch of mostly white soldiers entering a Black nation. If you think that the hatred between muslim and hindu and buddhist etc zealots are strong you would never know the hatred that was fuelled in sub saharan Africa between White and Black. While we expected strong civilian opposition to our presence when we moved in and their army retreated, we were strangely surprised at the reception. The civilians did not care as long as we did not shoot at them. A few village rabble rousers would try and spur on civilian attacks towards our platoons but not much came of that. Most of the people were interested in surviving on a daily basis. After a few weeks of occupation, we were purchasing goods from them and they were happy to deal with us. They started using our military hospitals and were happy to receive our medications. A man with his family standing besides him will not attack an army and risk danger to his family no matter how much of a nationalist he is. If not threatened with death or genocide by an invading army, most civilians would regard it as not being their duty to fight with sticks and stones an invading army armed with sophisticated weapons.
 
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guys dont think of numbers..coz we got plenty of reserverd troops..i mean plenty of them..

anywayz wats the latest news 2day?
 
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this is off topic but ppl talkin abt numbers...
in 1971 hw many of htose soldiers were trained???/
very less
 
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Sadly, civilians are not the backbone of a nation's defence. When we entered Angola in the 80's, we were a bunch of mostly white soldiers entering a Black nation. If you think that the hatred between muslim and hindu and buddhist etc zealots are strong you would never know the hatred that was fuelled in sub saharan Africa between White and Black. While we expected strong civilian opposition to our presence when we moved in and their army retreated, we were strangely surprised at the reception. The civilians did not care as long as we did not shoot at them. A few village rabble rousers would try and spur on civilian attacks towards our platoons but not much came of that. Most of the people were interested in surviving on a daily basis. After a few weeks of occupation, we were purchasing goods from them and they were happy to deal with us. They started using our military hospitals and were happy to receive our medications. A man with his family standing besides him will not attack an army and risk danger to his family no matter how much of a nationalist he is. If not threatened with death or genocide by an invading army, most civilians would regard it as not being their duty to fight with sticks and stones an invading army armed with sophisticated weapons.

If you consider Bengali and Vietnamese civilian as of Shaharan Africans then you are dead wrong. You need to go to border with Burma now and you will find out. Civilians works hand in hand with our military. One call from Government and million will be lined up for enlistment.
 
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India will support Burma for the simple fact China will support Burma, Burma has a 98% chance of victory. India dosen't need to help BD in anyway,but India and China do have much to gain from a Burmese victory and this USA rescue question still has not been answered why would USA get involved in anyway to help BD??

Well BD is considered safe partner of USA. USA does provide training to BD soldiers, they do joint military exercise with BD and also comes for rescue of BD citizens after every cyclone. We do owe USA in a lot of ways. This is no secret that USA seeks a base in Bay of Bengal and USA assistant secretary of state openly offered help to BD to secure its maritime border which drew a lot of criticism that time.
Finally USA does not like Burma. Burma is a rogue state, seeking long range misslies and Nukes from North Korea.
 
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Well BD is considered safe partner of USA. USA does provide training to BD soldiers, they do joint military exercise with BD and also comes for rescue of BD citizens after every cyclone. We do owe USA in a lot of ways. This is no secret that USA seeks a base in Bay of Bengal and USA assistant secretary of state openly offered help to BD to secure its maritime border which drew a lot of criticism that time.
Finally USA does not like Burma. Burma is a rogue state, seeking long range misslies and Nukes from North Korea.

say wat!! even burma wants nukes...
 
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India has already worked out with Burma that when Burma attacks Bangladesh, India will intervene on Bangladesh's behalf and defeat the Burmese military and hence this will allow both India and Burma to have access to natural resources inside Bangladesh? Huh...what?!!!!!!!

I want whatever it is that you're smoking MBI.

Quit playing dumb. India and Burma are in collusion on this. This is all another finessed RAW plan. Burma starts a war with BD. The compliant BD government requests assistance from India. India brings its troops into BD. Burma backs off and India occupies BD. India insists on transit and claims our natural resources along with Burma.

Another scenario is that India stays on the sidelines but supplies Burma with military equipment while weakening BD in the process for takeover later on.
 
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Well BD is considered safe partner of USA. USA does provide training to BD soldiers, they do joint military exercise with BD and also comes for rescue of BD citizens after every cyclone. We do owe USA in a lot of ways. This is no secret that USA seeks a base in Bay of Bengal and USA assistant secretary of state openly offered help to BD to secure its maritime border which drew a lot of criticism that time.
Finally USA does not like Burma. Burma is a rogue state, seeking long range misslies and Nukes from North Korea.

is there any kind of formal military pact between USA and BD?? Is BD in NATO? or part of ABCA alliance?

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Quit playing dumb. India and Burma are in collusion on this. This is all another finessed RAW plan. Burma starts a war with BD. The compliant BD government requests assistance from India. India brings its troops into BD. Burma backs off and India occupies BD. India insists on transit and claims our natural resources along with Burma.

Another scenario is that India stays on the sidelines but supplies Burma with military equipment while weakening BD in the process for takeover later on.

it will most likely be the second scenario,India has no need to use Burma to the first scenario.
 
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Quit playing dumb. India and Burma are in collusion on this. This is all another finessed RAW plan. Burma starts a war with BD. The compliant BD government requests assistance from India. India brings its troops into BD. Burma backs off and India occupies BD. India insists on transit and claims our natural resources along with Burma.

Another scenario is that India stays on the sidelines but supplies Burma with military equipment while weakening BD in the process for takeover later on.
You are making Zaid Hamid look like a sissy.
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