BBC reporter faces calls to resign after comment at Paris rally

[TurAr]

But do I know for a fact that some moron WILL attack such cartoonists? 99% yes ...we all do!

Then perhaps you and people like you should channelize some of your efforts to fixing your own religion rather than wasting energy on "saving" those from its wrath by giving silly advices. Because according to what you just said, there is clearly something wrong about it and these morons are abnormally common.

And why don't we know for a fact that Christians or Jews would do the same?

 

[gambit]

Then perhaps you and people like you should channelize some of your efforts to fixing your own religion rather than wasting energy on "saving" those from its wrath by giving silly advices. Because according to what you just said, there is clearly something wrong about it and these morons are abnormally common.

Which is: 'Better safe than sorry'. Which inevitably lead to blaming the victims because they knew what could and would happens.

 

[Gufi]

Expressing your opinions by drawing cartoons in West is something as normal and as ordinary as going to school in Pakistan. So you can't advice neither not to do so by saying something like "better safe than sorry".

read about Tin Tin controversy they are comics and parts were changed.... u can respect the views of others and still be funny.

 

[RescueRanger]

By saying Jesus is only a prophet and not the Son of God is insulting. But I guess it is fine if Muslims insults, right ?

Jesus PBUH is more than just a prophet, he is the sign of an immaculate birth a miracle of God all mighty. In the Quran ayat 16-21: the Holy Spirit, tella Mary ( blessings and peace be upon her name) of her conception and the gald tidings of a boy.

Jesus (PBUH) will be the last to be questioned for intermission before Mohammed PBUH will intercede for mankind and their forgiveness on the day of heaven.

Jesus was given the power by the Holy Spirit to bring the dead back to life, no mere trickery.

The only difference between the testament and the Quran is that of the trinity. For how can the spirit of God, for by mortal hands?

If God had a son, how could mortal hands kill that son? Yes the Romans did crucify Jesus (PBUH) but for muslims he was never killed on the cross, his spirit was claimed by God leaving only his mortal body on earth.

People think of prophets as some lowly title, nay to muslims all prophets from lot to Isaac to Ishmael to Moses to Abraham to Mohammed said etc, all are sacred.

Yes Mr. gambit you have a valid point in so much as a devoute Catholic would take great exception at the repudiation of the trinity, and surely this would cause then offence and you would be right.

At the end of the day, we will always be impressed and upset by thinks people say, be it the study of Swami vivekanada on Mohammed and his life or the cartoons drawn in France.

You call him Jahova, to me he is allah to others he is Ellahi, but he is rab to all of us.

Anyway I just wanted to say, that please don't for one moment think that just becaus we use the term prophet for Jesus (PBUH) that this is a lowly designation, it is quite the opposite.

 

[Gufi]

Yes Mr. gambit you have a valid point in so much as a devoute Catholic would take great exception at the repudiation of the trinity, and surely this would cause then offence and you would be right.

we do not go around doing it in satire and in comics and in newspapers.. Even if there are differences we do not go around insulting them on our media. There is no valid point sir because a catholic would take offence when we start insulting their belief rather then practicing our own.
In their homes let them think what they may but in the media there should be a degree of respect given to every religion

 

[TurAr]

read about Tin Tin controversy they are comics and parts were changed.... u can respect the views of others and still be funny.

Yes you can, but you don't have to. Especially if you are a cartoonist. One can say it is their job to offend. The important things is how you take it.

 

[Gufi]

Yes you can, but you don't have to. Especially if you are a cartoonist. One can say it is their job to offend. The important things is how you take it.

when they offend people some may get violent and it would not be their fault would it? in this scientific world we may argue they have a gene for ultra violent behavior or the warrior gene?
i mean in a billion people how many must have that who can say.... blame genetics not belief most of us are sitting here arguing rather then insulting anyone

@RescueRanger blame genes from now. Science and the modern world are what we backward Muslims do not get apparently so let us give scientific logic. Emotions are our fault but maybe they had the genes for it how can one know

 

[RescueRanger]

Everyone has the right to an opinion, let us remember that and respect it. We don't t have to agree with that opinion, we dont have to like it.

 

[gambit]

Jesus PBUH is more than just a prophet, he is the sign of an immaculate birth a miracle of God all mighty. In the Quran ayat 16-21: the Holy Spirit, tella Mary ( blessings and peace be upon her name) of her conception and the gald tidings of a boy.

Jesus (PBUH) will be the last to be questioned for intermission before Mohammed PBUH will intercede for mankind and their forgiveness on the day of heaven.

Jesus was given the power by the Holy Spirit to bring the dead back to life, no mere trickery.

The only difference between the testament and the Quran is that of the trinity. For how can the spirit of God, for by mortal hands?

If God had a son, how could mortal hands kill that son? Yes the Romans did crucify Jesus (PBUH) but for muslims he was never killed on the cross, his spirit was claimed by God leaving only his mortal body on earth.

People think of prophets as some lowly title, nay to muslims all prophets from lot to Isaac to Ishmael to Moses to Abraham to Mohammed said etc, all are sacred.

Yes Mr. gambit you have a valid point in so much as a devoute Catholic would take great exception at the repudiation of the trinity, and surely this would cause then offence and you would be right.

At the end of the day, we will always be impressed and upset by thinks people say, be it the study of Swami vivekanada on Mohammed and his life or the cartoons drawn in France.

You call him Jahova, to me he is allah to others he is Ellahi, but he is rab to all of us.

Anyway I just wanted to say, that please don't for one moment think that just becaus we use the term prophet for Jesus (PBUH) that this is a lowly designation, it is quite the opposite.

Everything you said was insulting to me. My feelings are hurt. You are a hate filled bigot.

Did I get all the necessary bases covered ?

 

[Gufi]

Everything you said was insulting to me. My feelings are hurt. You are a hate filled bigot.

Did he print it in a news paper and publish it or maybe make it into a satirical piece for public display for you? If not then it is not the same.

 

[RescueRanger]

Everything you said was insulting to me. My feelings are hurt. You are a hate filled bigot.

Did I get all the necessary bases covered ?

hahaha. Burn the witch!

 

[gambit]

we do not go around doing it in satire and in comics and in newspapers.. Even if there are differences we do not go around insulting them on our media. There is no valid point sir because a catholic would take offence when we start insulting their belief rather then practicing our own.
In their homes let them think what they may but in the media there should be a degree of respect given to every religion

That is not the point.

In fact, when you are presenting your argument for Islam as the next supremacy religion, you are doing it in a venue even more significant than print medium -- the human soul. You are calling the current religion ineffective, inadequate, or perhaps even wrong. You may not use those words but for the receiver, the implications from those words are clear.

So if we go by hurt feelings for explanations, if not justifications, to violence, then the simple act of arguing for Islam or Christianity or Rastafarianism constitutes insults.

 

[RescueRanger]

Did he print it in a news paper and publish it or maybe make it into a satirical piece for public display for you? If not then it is not the same.

Mara he is having a laugh. We should learn to take things easy from time to time. No need to get hypertension because of what people think.

You can't fight the world, just remember. Always look on the bright side of life.

That is not the point.

In fact, when you are presenting your argument for Islam as the next supremacy religion, you are doing it in a venue even more significant than print medium -- the human soul. You are calling the current religion ineffective, inadequate, or perhaps even wrong. You may not use those words but for the receiver, the implications from those words are clear.

So if we go by hurt feelings for explanations, if not justifications, to violence, then the simple act of arguing for Islam or Christianity or Rastafarianism constitutes insults.

In other news I hear jedisim is really taking off these days.

 

[TurAr]

when they offend people some may get violent and it would not be their fault would it? in this scientific world we may argue they have a gene for ultra violent behavior or the warrior gene?
i mean in a billion people how many must have that who can say.... blame genetics not belief most of us are sitting here arguing rather then insulting anyone

@RescueRanger blame genes from now. Science and the modern world are what we backward Muslims do not get apparently so let us give scientific logic. Emotions are our fault but maybe they had the genes for it how can one know

Everybody is responsible from their actions. If you try to confront an opinion with violence then noone but you are to be blamed.

That "gene" would be unscientifically common among Muslims.

 

[Gufi]

Mara he is having a laugh. We should learn to take things easy from time to time. No need to get hypertension because of what people think.

You can't fight the world, just remember. Always look on the bright side of life.

Just disappointed in the lack of understanding in this world people who are having a laugh should not be allowed to on the basis of religion. Anyway the number of serious posters that are leaving this forum should be noted also.

Everybody is responsible from their actions. If you try to confront an opinion with violence then noone but you are to be blamed.

That "gene" would be unscientifically common among Muslims.

oh no the gene is not that uncommon. And the people who have this gene are less in control of their actions. Slighter provocations can cause fits of rage. Found in ten percent of murderers. Getting angry and killing someone are very different... you get angry with your wife i guess at times as does everyone but very few actually kill their wife in anger... It must be what like one in every ten thousand or hundred thousand people... think on it...