Battle of Britain Day: 76 years on from World War II turning point

[waz]

Don't also forget you Englishmen at first were allies with Nazi Germany. You helped Nazi Germany take over Austria and Czechoslovakia and then helped them take over Poland.There was defence pact between Poland and England, but you (Perfidious Albion) did nothing to help Poland. You wanted war between Germany and Russia. You wanted to weaken both Germany and Russia. World War II was your (Perfidious Albion) fault, so was World War I.
On the orientalreview website there are great articles by Nikolay STARIKOV (I'm newbe here so I can't post links yet) who explain how Perfidious Albion is responsible for World War II. Articles can be easly found by their titles:
Episode 13. Why London presented Hitler with Vienna and Prague (I)
Episode 15. Poland Betrayed (I)
You also helped Hitler conquer France:
Episode 16. Who signed death sentence for France in 1940? (I)
Episode 16. Who signed death sentence for France in 1940? (II)
Here from article above:
"When analyzing the causes of the improbably rapid downfall of France in 1940, it would be amiss not to mention the wonderful plan developed by German General Erich von Manstein. But the Brits made an equally important contribution to France’s defeat.

The English gave no thought to rescuing France and, unexpectedly for the French commanders who were directing the joint struggle, they ceased to carry out French orders. In his book, Churchill himself unabashedly quotes the telegram he received from French Prime Minister Paul Reynaud on May 24, 1940: “… the British Army had carried out, on its own initiative, a retreat of twenty-five miles towards the ports at a time when our troops moving up from the south are gained ground towards the north, where they were to meet their allies.”[1]"

You (Perfidious Albion) are also responsible for World War I:
Episode 4. Who ignited the First World War? (I)
Episode 4. Who ignited the First World War? (II)
From article above:
"The British were still able to avert a world catastrophe up until midnight July 31, 1914 had they only clearly stated their intention to enter the war. They did not. Because the English wanted this war."

Don't also forget you Englishmen killed 4 million people in Bengal in 1943 with your artificialy created famine.
I hope you (Perfidious Albion) will be soon kicked out of EU, and that Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland will become independent (from Perfidious Albion).



"After the war, a bill for over 68 million pounds sterling, covering the equipment and operating costs of the Polish Air Force in Great Britain, was paid from the Polish gold reserves deposited in Canada."
Source - Wikipedia article: National_Bank_of_Poland

It was 11 ton of gold according to article in Bibuła pismo niezależne. In other words England stolen 11 ton of gold from Poland. Serviceman from squadron 303 were patsies. One should never ever trust perfidious Englishmen.
@BRICSFTW , @victor07 , @russiarussia , @vostok , @Götterdämmerung , @Deino

The UK declared war on Germany when they attacked you! What on earth are you writing about? Yes, more could have been done to save Poland from the clutches of the Russians but the country was bankrupt, and the Western allies didn't have the stomach for it. I have no idea why you have such hatred for our country, and you also spitefully hint at its demise. Well you better tell the 1 million Poles here that is going to happen, as they are blissfully unaware, and still want to stay. The UK isn't going to break up, remember Wales voted out, Scottish support for independence is the lowest it has been in recent history, with even the Tory leader Davidson having a better leader rating than sturgeon. I would suggest you hurry along and build your own country, rather than posting on here mouthing off the English, the same people who opened their doors to your large expat population. As for being kicked out of the EU, we left, there is a difference chap. Now you can pay what we used to give in contributions to the project.

 

[mike2000 is back]

The UK declared war on Germany when they attacked you! What on earth are you writing about? Yes, more could have been done to save Poland from the clutches of the Russians but the country was bankrupt, and the Western allies didn't have the stomach for it. I have no idea why you have such hatred for our country, and you also spitefully hint at its demise. Well you better tell the 1 million Poles here that is going to happen, as they are blissfully unaware, and still want to stay. The UK isn't going to break up, remember Wales voted out, Scottish support for independence is the lowest it has been in recent history, with even the Tory leader Davidson having a better leader rating than sturgeon. I would suggest you hurry along and build your own country, rather than posting on here mouthing off the English, the same people who opened their doors to your large expat population. As for being kicked out of the EU, we left, there is a difference chap. Now you can pay what we used to give in contributions to the project.

According to our Polish brother, we should have declared war not only on Germany and Japan(which we were already fighting at the same time) but also on Soviet Russia . Lol
So he wanted us to be fighting Nazis Germany, Imperial Japan and soviet Russia all at once . Lol
Old boy we were strong, but not that strong to take on 3 big world powers all at once.
In fact the Royal Navy/RAF/and Army were already fighting on so many fronts , facing the Germans in European mainland, Scandinavia, artic, North Africa, Mediterranean, Atlantic ocean, while facing the Japanese all over Asia at the same time. We were already overstretched to our limit mate, we couldn't handle another war with Russia. It would have made things worse for us and they will all probably will be speaking German by now. lol

We did the best we could, both militarily and diplomatically. We couldn't save Poland from Germany and Russia at the same time. We had to make a Choice. Reason we choose Russia and provided them with necessary aid accordingly, needed to face Nazis Germany our common enemy.

 

[Vassnti]

My prayers and a special mention to squadron 303, the flying Poles. Your antics in the skies is the stuff of legends.
Here is a beautiful dedication to them in Polish. Thank you dear elders and rest in peace.

Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.

Indeed......

" Polish pilots were renowned for their daring in fighting for Britain, which they called "last hope island". A saying at the time went: "If you want a short life and a glorious death, fly with a Polish airman."

 

[victor07]

Lool you people are funny. So according to you, we should have had no business ties/trade with Germany? Using your delusional logic, the U S/U K/West should not be doing business/trade with China. Much less setting up our factories in China which enable them to grow and maybe one day if they start invading other countries due to their new found wealth/power, you should blame us for trading with them/investing there right? Lmao

I have even heard some conspiracy theories saying that the U.S/West are intentionally involved in China so they can make them grow powerful and then start a war with them/create conflict with their neighbours for our own benefit.

I am not surprised. Оn your opinion it is OK to fight against the aggressor and to conduct joint business with him. Although British relationship with Nazi Germany was more business than war. And this was hello from your business.

As for China, let's compare current external debt and military expenditures of the USA and China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
USA - 114% of GDP
China - 16.2% of GDP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
USA - 3.3% of GDP
China - 1.9% of GDP
As for Germany from 1934 to 1939 Germany's military spending accounted about 59% of budget expenditures.
So China is preparing for big war, like Das Dritte Reich? On your opinion yes.

IMHO USA is more likely interested in a war to write off the debt.

 

[waz]

According to our Polish brother, we should have declared war not only on Germany and Japan(which we were already fighting at the same time) but also on Soviet Russia . Lol
So he wanted us to be fighting Nazis Germany, Imperial Japan and soviet Russia all at once . Lol
Old boy we were strong, but not that strong to take on 3 big world powers all at once.
In fact the Royal Navy/RAF/and Army were already fighting on so many fronts , facing the Germans in European mainland, Scandinavia, artic, North Africa, Mediterranean, Atlantic ocean, while facing the Japanese all over Asia at the same time. We were already overstretched to our limit mate, we couldn't handle another war with Russia. It would have made things worse for us and they will all probably will be speaking German by now. lol

We did the best we could, both militarily and diplomatically. We couldn't save Poland from Germany and Russia at the same time. We had to make a Choice. Reason we choose Russia and provided them with necessary aid accordingly, needed to face Nazis Germany our common enemy.

He isn't our brother bro, nor are those who have such thoughts, and to be honest this mentality is growing amongst them. Look at the stupidity of the so called "V4" i.e. Poland, Czech republic, Hungry and Slovakia. They're threatening us over Brexit. With each and every day my stance on Brexit is vindicated and I'm glad I put everything into to make it happen. It's true that France and Germany have been open, but I feel it's only a matter of time before we are locked into a bitter dispute with the bulk of European nations, unless the two giants intervene.
Our real brothers and sisters are;

Anyway, his post borders on utter nonsense. In actual fact the UK didn't have the forces to take the Africa corps, and fight the Japanese, this is where the British Indian army came in, with British officers leading them. Native troops could just about take on the European front. The legendary British Field Marshall Sir Claude Auchinleck said that the war couldn't have been won without the British Indian army.
To fight the Soviets would have been insanity, and Britain would have taken a bloody nose and it would have also set back the recovery of the economy by many years. The Americans didn't seem keen to, but I don't see him blaming them. But anyway, it's history.

 

[mike2000 is back]

I am not surprised. Оn your opinion it is OK to fight against the aggressor and to conduct joint business with him. Although British relationship with Nazi Germany was more business than war. And this was hello from your business.

As for China, let's compare current external debt and military expenditures of the USA and China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
USA - 114% of GDP
China - 16.2% of GDP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
USA - 3.3% of GDP
China - 1.9% of GDP
As for Germany from 1934 to 1939 Germany's military spending accounted about 59% of budget expenditures.
So China is preparing for big war, like Das Dritte Reich? On your opinion yes.

IMHO USA is more likely interested in a war to write off the debt.

What are you even talking about dude?
Did you even understand the point I made? Who said China or U.S or Russia or any western power for that matter is preparing for a BIG War? Lol. Seems you have some personal beef with Great Britain, which is normal as you are Russian lol.
It's useless even having a constructive discussion with you. Since you jump from one meaningless statement to another. It's Kind of confusing to be honest.

For your info your country was responsible even more for WWII than any other power, as you were the first major power to ally with Nazis Germany. Remember? This encouraged Hitler to expand even more and wage more wars. Lol

Stalin and Hitler's personal envoy Ribbentrop after the signature of the pact. August 23, 1939
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-hitler-stalin-pact

This devil alliance pact paved the way for WWII

The Soviet foreign minister, Vyacheslav Molotov, saying farewell to his German counterpart, Joachim von Ribbentrop (right), after a visit to Berlin during the Nazi-Soviet alliance that lasted from 1939 to 1941

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-08-...aved-way-world-war-ii-was-signed-75-years-ago

Too bad for you, your Hitler ally turned against you and killed over 20million of your people(granted your dictator Stalin killed even more of his own people.lol ) destroying virtually all your major cities.

@Piotr . Your Russian friends used this alliance with Germany to invade and subdue your country(there is little to nothing we could do, since you are sandwiched between them, and we could fight both of them close to their borders/territory).

Soviet troops invade Poland. The occupation and subsequent massacres will last well after the end of WWII.

The Soviets used the excuse of protecting their minorities in Poland to invade your country, funny enough they are using the same excuse today to conquer/carve out Eastern Ukraine(like Crimea), Georgia and many other eastern European countries bordering them . Lol

Keep blaming the Evil 'anglo Saxons' for all the world's ills/issues.

 

[Penguin]

As for China, let's compare current external debt and military expenditures of the USA and China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
USA - 114% of GDP
China - 16.2% of GDP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
USA - 3.3% of GDP
China - 1.9% of GDP
As for Germany from 1934 to 1939 Germany's military spending accounted about 59% of budget expenditures.
So China is preparing for big war, like Das Dritte Reich? On your opinion yes.

IMHO USA is more likely interested in a war to write off the debt.

Percentages can be deceptive.

Unofficial estimates place the total amount of military spending for China higher than the Chinese government figures, but these calculations tend to differ between organizations.
In 2010, the US Department of Defense's annual report to Congress on China's military strength estimated the actual 2009 Chinese military spending at US$150 billion. Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) estimates that the military spending of the People's Republic of China for 2009 was US$100 billion, higher than the official budget, but lower than the US DoD estimate.
The International Institute for Strategic Studies in a 2011 report argued that if spending trends continue China will achieve military equality with the United States in 15–20 years.
Jane's Defence Forecasts in 2012 estimated that China's defense budget would increase from $119.80 billion to $238.20 billion between 2011 and 2015. This would make it larger than the defense budgets of all other major Asian nations combined. This is still smaller than the estimated United States defense budget of $525.40 billion for 2013. However, United States defense spending is slightly declining.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_China

Between 1933 and 1939 the total revenue of Nazi Germany amounted to 62 billion marks, whereas expenditure (at times comprising up to 60% rearmament costs) exceeded 101 billion, thus causing a huge deficit and national debt.
In 1936, military spending in Germany exceeded 10% of GNP, higher than any other European country at the time. However, this was after years of limitations imposed by the Versailles Treaty. Germany REARMED. Clearly, you cannot compare that to US today and only to a lesser extent to China today (although China too rearmed, after a long period of inaction).

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

So according to your delusional logic we are like GOD, since we can manipulate people like puppets into doing things they don't want to do.

Hey wait a minute...I thought mind control was only a US special power. We have competition???

 

[Vassnti]

Don't also forget you Englishmen at first were allies with Nazi Germany. You helped Nazi Germany take over Austria and Czechoslovakia and then helped them take over Poland.There was defence pact between Poland and England, but you (Perfidious Albion) did nothing to help Poland. You wanted war between Germany and Russia. You wanted to weaken both Germany and Russia. World War II was your (Perfidious Albion) fault, so was World War I.
On the orientalreview website there are great articles by Nikolay STARIKOV (I'm newbe here so I can't post links yet) who explain how Perfidious Albion is responsible for World War II. Articles can be easly found by their titles:

polish ROFL

ваш английский отличный товарищ pity you missed the little part about The Molotov–Ribbentrop pact.If your going to try and pretend to be a pro Russian neutral I suggest you don't start with saying how great Starikov is

 

[mike2000 is back]

Hey wait a minute...I thought mind control was only a US special power. We have competition???

Lool According to some of them here the Brits are even more notorious in this regard. Since I have an many of them saying the U.S learned mind control/divide conquer from us.

 

[Penguin]

Penguin mind control.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Lool According to some of them here the Brits are even more notorious in this regard. Since I have an many of them saying the U.S learned mind control/divide conquer from us.

The Force is strong I guess.

 

[Piotr]

Initially Nazi England and Nazi Germany were allies:

@1:04 lider of Nazi Germany Adolf Hitler
@1:07 his ally Prime Minister of Nazi England Neville Chamberlain

The so called "Queen" of England is also a Nazi: