Barack Obama 'deliberately snubbed' by Chinese in chaotic arrival at G20

[gambit]

http://www.npr.org/2013/03/17/174542931/planning-trips-worthy-of-a-president

SPENCER GEISSINGER: We would do a survey trip, sometimes a month and a half prior to the actual visit by the president,...

There are no credible reasons -- other than threats to the physical well being of Obama -- that the Chinese would insists on changes at the last minutes before Obama land on Chinese soil, and did it without informing the American security/protective counterparts.

What the Chinese did was unprofessional and shameful.

Did you really see the actual detail of the prior agreement?

We do not need to see it. It is common sense.

If not,how can you say we "violated" it?Agreement could be general,may be they have different understanding.

The Americans said we would use our own staircase for our President to depart his aircraft.

Explain to everyone why is that unacceptable to China.

Chinese media told another version that the rolling air stairs had been checked by the US securities just as the pic previous showed and Chinese could assign a person who could speak English to assist the driver,but the US security reject it.

We have every right to reject it. If we had our own staircase, that means we have our own driver who would be American. What is wrong with that ?

Why do heads of state bring their own interpreters ?

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/poli...own-words-translator-chinas-top-leaders-takes

Zhang has acted as translator for China’s top leaders on numerous overseas trips and high-level international negotiations, including the Copenhagen climate talks in 2009 and regular summits of the Group of 20 major economies.

Because of the sensitivity of the issue, the language used by each participating nation was regarded as the official language of the talks, so each delegation brought their own interpreters.

Because they do not trust the interpreters of the host country.

Like it or not, if we do not trust your staircase, we will bring our own, just like how you brought your own interpreter.

"Do not compare China‘s public security to Egypt.Other leaders didn't brought their special car and their safety is pretty well.The US president have got a lot of privilege,you are far too emotional

That is a gem -- that we are too emotional.

NO ONE believes that it was an 'accident' or a 'misunderstanding'. Professionals in this type of events are shaking their heads at China for being childish and emotional in trying to insult US.

 

[GeHAC]

http://www.npr.org/2013/03/17/174542931/planning-trips-worthy-of-a-president

There are no credible reasons -- other than threats to the physical well being of Obama -- that the Chinese would insists on changes at the last minutes before Obama land on Chinese soil, and did it without informing the American security/protective counterparts.

What the Chinese did was unprofessional and shameful.

There are no credible reasons -- other than untrust to China's public security or deliberate humiliation.Recognize the truth,how can a rolling air stair threat "the physical well being of Obama".You are just joking on other leaders who walked on that stair.

That's also common sence

 

[gambit]

There are no credible reasons -- other than untrust to China's public security or deliberate humiliation.Recognize the truth how can a rolling air stair threat "the physical well being of Obama".You are just joking on other leaders who walked on that stair.

That's also common sence

Why should we trust your security services when you do not trust ours ?

The intellectual quality of the Chinese response in this thread is really pathetic.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Why should we trust your security services when you do not trust ours ?

The intellectual quality of the Chinese response in this thread is really pathetic.

It's their country and it's their airport. If you don't like their security protocol, you can stay home. It's not like the Chinese forced him to come.

 

[Rasengan]

Now you get my point. That was my point in previous posts which i was trying convince you. That what India is doing right now with USA. So how did India become spineless and China dint.

Indian diplomatic officials and famous celebrities have been harassed in airports across America, and your country failed to lodge an adequate complaint. Furthermore, a couple of years ago before Modi was Prime Minister he was barred and denigrated by some members of Congress, yet India was silent again. When the British were critical of China Hu Jintao took their investment to Germany.

 

[GeHAC]

Why should we trust your security services when you do not trust ours ?

The intellectual quality of the Chinese response in this thread is really pathetic.

I viewed the video record when obama came to China in 2014,he used the stair the beijing airport offered.So why this time is different?Who konws whether they made any agreement on the using of air stair.Your media is now clearly lying on the red carpet,it's also a "common" sence they may tell another fatty lie

 

[Economic superpower]

It's their country and it's their airport. If you don't like their security protocol, you can stay home. It's not like the Chinese forced him to come.

Very true.

If the Yankees can't behave themselves in a foreign country, they can F right off.

China should've said if you don't like the way we do things in our country, the Yanks can turn that plane around and go back home.

No need to give special treatment to anyone.

I viewed the video record when obama came to China in 2014,he used the stair the beijing airport offered.So why this time is different?Who konws whether they made any agreement on the using of air stair.Your media is now clearly lying on the red carpet,tt's also a "common" sence they may tell another fatty lie

This time it's different because it was a deliberate tactic by the Yankees to make China look bad. It's obvious to everyone.

 

[gambit]

I viewed the video record when obama came to China in 2014,he used the stair the beijing airport offered.So why this time is different?Who konws whether they made any agreement on the using of air stair.Your media is now clearly lying on the red carpet,it's also a "common" sence they may tell another fatty lie

That is not the point, which is that everything must be agreed upon prior to arrival. Which part of 'agreed upon' do you not understand ? For the US, the Secret Service have what is called the 'Presidential Advanced Team' who travels to the host country before the President and made all the arrangements.

We are not talking about a movie star or a singer. We are talking about leaders of countries who makes decisions that affects everyone. Security for these people cannot be left to chance.

Face it, buddy. Your China acted like a thug and everyone knows it.

 

[GeHAC]

Very true.

If the Yankees can't behave themselves in a foreign country, they can F right off.

China should've said if you don't like the way we do things in our country, the Yanks can turn that plane around and go back home.

No need to give special treatment to anyone.



This time it's different because it was a deliberate tactic by the Yankees to make China look bad. It's obvious to everyone.

American didn't get their privilege as the "leader of the free world" and they call it a "snub".Reasonable indeed

That is not the point, which is that everything must be agreed upon prior to arrival. Which part of 'agreed upon' do you not understand ? For the US, the Secret Service have what is called the 'Presidential Advanced Team' who travels to the host country before the President and made all the arrangements.

We are not talking about a movie star or a singer. We are talking about leaders of countries who makes decisions that affects everyone. Security for these people cannot be left to chance.

Face it, buddy. Your China acted like a thug and everyone knows it.

So in 2014 there is no similar 'agree upon' and your ''Presidential Advanced Team'' didn't came?I dont think diplomatic process would change much.A case law country which do not admit the example of the past,ok very logical

 

[gambit]

American didn't get their privilege as the "leader of the free world" and they call it a "snub".Reasonable indeed

Privilege ? We brought our own gear so that it would not be a bother for you. Then you changed your mind. Yes, it is your soil. If you say we cannot use our own gear, what are we supposed to do ? We agreed to your gear, so the least you could do is let us drive it.

So who is really the unreasonable one here ? Answer: China.

 

[Wet Shirt Contest]

You invite them and you insult them , this is an uncivilized act.

Regime US of A afraid to obey the ruling in favour of Nicaragua in the past, but want China to obey.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States

And now, Begging Chinese to respect them.
How Pathetic are you !?

Your Emperor doesn't deserve our Respect, Sorry

its a matter of courtesy not respect,

 

[gambit]

So in 2014 there is no similar 'agree upon' and your ''Presidential Advanced Team'' didn't came?I dont think diplomatic process would change much.A case law country which do not admit the example of the past,ok very logical

There are ALWAYS agreements between security/protective services. It is really amazing that you cannot see the common sense in this. No country would completely leave the security of its leader in the hands of foreigners. Not even the Pope.

This is the intellectual quality of Internet Chinese ?

 

[GeHAC]

That is not the point, which is that everything must be agreed upon prior to arrival. Which part of 'agreed upon' do you not understand ? For the US, the Secret Service have what is called the 'Presidential Advanced Team' who travels to the host country before the President and made all the arrangements.

We are not talking about a movie star or a singer. We are talking about leaders of countries who makes decisions that affects everyone. Security for these people cannot be left to chance.

Face it, buddy. Your China acted like a thug and everyone knows it.

Privilege ? We brought our own gear so that it would not be a bother for you. Then you changed your mind. Yes, it is your soil. If you say we cannot use our own gear, what are we supposed to do ? We agreed to your gear, so the least you could do is let us drive it.

So who is really the unreasonable one here ? Answer: China.

Haven't you understand?There may not be an agreement on the use of air chair.At least it not appeared before,the realness and necessity is skeptical.Just using an air stair your security officers checked and used by other leader equals to "leave the security of its leader in the hands of foreigners",and that's your conclusion?

OK I have well understand the intellectual quality of Internet American.

 

[GeHAC]

And you are wrong.

Here is an example on the Chinese side...

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepo...ntourage-project-power-in-big-ways-and-small/

When it said 'Chinese security ran the show', it mean Chinese security dictated and controlled anything that Chinese security considered to be a potential threat to the Chinese President.

So for you to say that there maybe no agreements on the details of a state visit is simply absurd.


Which is better than the Chinese.


When I was in Germany, I saw a lot of neo-Nazis. Considering...

That was Xi in Seattle and there was a large "Boeing" logo on the side of the stair.Are you joking me?That's you example to support your point?

 

[gambit]

That was Xi in Seattle and there was a large "Boeing" logo on the side of the stair.Are you joking me?That's you example to support your point?

Here is an example of security arrangements for state visits.

http://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/274743-Xi-Jinpings-visit-Security-high-alert-in-capital

https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan-readies-special-security-plan-for-chinese-president.370113/

None of these happened on the day of visits. Travel routes are planned days in advanced. Medical professionals advised that the first 10 minutes of trauma is the most crucial, so in the event of a medical emergency, like an assassination, the VIPs are only 10 minutes away from any hospital.

So for you to say that there may not be any security arrangement back in 2014 is absurd.

These Yankees hate you:

Want more? I have tons of them.

Bring them on. After all, they came from your kind.