Banned Kashmiri militant outfits re-emerging in Pakistan

[asaad-ul-islam]

I think the opposite is true. The world is no longer taken in by terror whatever the supposed cause!

Pakistan has to stop this not for it's image but just for it's mere survival. You will not be doing anyone any favor by doing this. The terrorists have begun biting the hand that fed them for so long, and the bite is bad.

The Frankestine's monster of terror first claims it's own creators. It has become clear as day now. If some people still don't want to see the reality, God help them.

well, as my post suggests, that's your view not mine. in the same way, nations accept terrorist outfits as freedom struggles. tibetians slaughtering Han and Hui Chinese went largely ignored in the media. It was deemed as a freedom struggle, not a violent backlash.

 

[Vinod2070]

Tibetan struggle is universally recognized as a non-violent struggle. And Dalai Lama is one of the most revered religious leaders in the world. I don't know where you got your reports from, I hope not from this forum!

But anyway let's agree to disagree. We don't have the same views on terror. Time will prove who is right.

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

Support was withdrawn, temporarily that is. Yet, that didn't stop kashmiri's from organizing more manpower did it? It's in the process of re-emerging from a dormant state.

The support and infrastructure was not enough in the first place to make serious dent.

More manpower? for what , you mean protests, heck my state and Kolkata and Kerala hold more protests then Kashmiris , not even close enough.

Keep in mind, there are many more muslims besides pakistani's who support the kashmiri freedom struggle

Why not, certainly you people seem to wage jihad wherever you want , in this case Idont see support except from Pakistanis, if the issue was so grave why on earth India is not treated like israel in the first place among muslim nation , why we have friendly relations with any muslim nation worth its salt. Kashmir issue was or never will be a priority among Jihadists, it seems they like taking on America then India. Even before war on terror majority of the insurgents were from Pakistan unlike Chechenya, bosnia or Iraq where there is a significan presence of foreign fighters.

We know that afghani's, or should I say Mujahideen, gave you quite a shocker in Kargil.

Loosers argument, not worth replying.

gave you quite a shocker in Kargil

Nope it didn't

Kargisl was also anotrher point where Pakistan realised that India willnot backoff from escalating the conflict.

I'm sure they are willing to do it again.

Naaah no way, most of them are running with their tails inbetween in afghanistan on war on terror, the rest are busy fighting you and bombing your cities and assasinating your leaders, yup I also sure they wil be willing to do it again.

Not to mention, the vast influx of foreign arab fighters who are just itching to draw your blood

Yeah yeah whatever, refer above .

Other than that, you can drop the username. It does not accurately define your motives on this board

IS that your business, refer to my posts and understand that I am not a lala land peacenink, I am practical and my posts refer the same, why the heck should we fight you and why the heck should you fight us for Kashmiris, are you the vanguards of freedom all over the world.

Anyone here can tell you came straight from bharat-rakshak.

Oops i did not know that , how did ya know that ? tell me lemme learn.

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

How do you know that ??? are you his Personal secretary ?

Naaah .. I have better work than that... anyways welcome back ...

Oh ho ho as you are forgotting the Terrorism India is funding and supporting in Balochistan and Nepal and Sri Lanka just for fulfilling own agenda.

Balochistan: Dont know , maybe yeah and why not , is Pakistan the only nation capable of as your members will put it " cards right". As I said in another post we dont give a horses crap to Balochis or Pashtons, it is just a tit for tat exercise .

Nepal: hmmm what did we support there in the first place???

Srilanka: Nope not happening anymore, Indians are realists you know , they dont support people who assasinated their leaders. Any ways LTTE is struggling due to the sole reason that they ceased receive support from India.

AS far as Indian Held Kashmir is concerned everyone knows the brutalities your sick army is committing in the Indian Held Kashmir.

Too bad isin't it , wouldn't it be better if the army was not there in first place, but then how would it be possibe, not unless Pakistan laysoff claim for IK and starts closing down camps simple isnt it.

The fake killings of innocent Kashmiris at hand of Indian Brutal Army Soldiers have become a normal thing.

err .. lot of rapists in India I guess , so what do you plan to do about it.

 

[Xeric]

Concept of militant outfit is wrong.

They should join the Pakistan army and go on covert missions into Kashmir.

Out of all the groups mentioned above, I think only Hizb has had some decent success rates, but nothing like what we need.

wow..u mean to say tht the pakistan army is carrying out covert operation inside kashmir....!!!!!! bhai jan wht do want tht now pakistan army should also b labeld as a terrorist organization....
think before u speak....
i beleive tht india just need hard ways to deal with...yes we support kashmir n their freedom movement....n yes we will support them morally and offcially.... n ofocurse i personally believe tht freedom movements should b there...but they has to be more vigilant than ever in this post 9/11 scenerio....otherwise they will become another excuse for the US to attck us.....

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

If you call supporting innocents and that too who are fighting for thier OWN land, as something ailing than one can only feel sorry nothing else for you.

Naah its just a plain landgrab, what make you think Kasmir belongs to kashmiris alon , it belongs to me as well as any Indian citizens, if Kashmiris dont like us they are free to leave to AK the paradise.

No one is supporting spiling blood.

As far as stance of our political and military people is concerned we had done everything to bring peace and even we had put forward proposal for conducting Referendum in Azad Kashmir too to know if the entire region of Kashmir wants to be independent we are even ready for that

See therein lies the problem , you have modeled Azad Kashmir as an Independent entity, whether its true or not is another matter of debate, so as far as paper is concerned AK is an indeendent entity with it PM capable of determing it futre without Pakistans intervention, however here Kashmir is a interal part of the federation called India where everyone has equal rights over each and every part of the country so for us why should we let Kashmiris alone decide over a piece of land that we equally own.

 

[UnitedPak]

"Terror" has become such a loose word. You think the Kashmiris weren't terrified when your troops killed them and threw them in mass graves?
Terror goes both ways, and stop using these scapegoat terms, it makes you look incredibly silly.

Only the Americans can fight a nonsensical "war on terror". The rest of the world fights a conventional war, with both sides being capable of feeling terror, pain and loss.

 

[Xeric]

Support was withdrawn, temporarily that is. Yet, that didn't stop kashmiri's from organizing more manpower did it? It's in the process of re-emerging from a dormant state.

Keep in mind, there are many more muslims besides pakistani's who support the kashmiri freedom struggle. We know that afghani's, or should I say Mujahideen, gave you quite a shocker in Kargil. I'm sure they are willing to do it again.

Not to mention, the vast influx of foreign arab fighters who are just itching to draw your blood. Other than that, you can drop the username. It does not accurately define your motives on this board. Anyone here can tell you came straight from bharat-rakshak.

cheeta laga hai....
check his indo-pak friendship ligemitacy...he definetly has proven the otherway round....i m sending "i" ppl behind him to run a spy check..
change ur nick dude....u dnt desrve to keep it.....
n yes with the influx of the so called terroist inside pakistan india should b ready to see more blood in near future....i knw how indian troops used to be pissed off on just hearing the word "Mujaheedin"..... read the media n special reports available online on this fact...

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

cheeta laga hai....
check his indo-pak friendship ligemitacy...he definetly has proven the otherway round....i m sending "i" ppl behind him to run a spy check..
change ur nick dude.

yeaah whatever

..u dnt desrve to keep it....

I dont care.

n yes with the influx of the so called terroist inside pakistan india should b ready to see more blood in near future....i knw how indian troops used to be pissed off on just hearing the word "Mujaheedin"..... read the media n special reports available online on this fact...

yeahh the same thing again and again , dream on I say, Kalam handled lectures for us when he was a honorary resident here in our univ and he used to advice us to dream on ..

 

[Vinod2070]

cheeta laga hai....
check his indo-pak friendship ligemitacy...he definetly has proven the otherway round....i m sending "i" ppl behind him to run a spy check..
change ur nick dude....u dnt desrve to keep it.....
n yes with the influx of the so called terroist inside pakistan india should b ready to see more blood in near future....i knw how indian troops used to be pissed off on just hearing the word "Mujaheedin"..... read the media n special reports available online on this fact...

It is actually the reverse. The "Mujahideen" have got such a hiding from Indian soldiers that they prefer to blow themselves up in Pakistan and Afghanistan taking down girl schools now than dare cross the Indian border.

I don't know which media you have read. Pl. do share and we will see the credibility of that "media".

 

[Xeric]

How do you know that ??? are you his Personal secretary ?



Oh ho ho as you are forgotting the Terrorism India is funding and supporting in Balochistan and Nepal and Sri Lanka just for fulfilling own agenda.


AS far as Indian Held Kashmir is concerned everyone knows the brutalities your sick army is committing in the Indian Held Kashmir.

The fake killings of innocent Kashmiris at hand of Indian Brutal Army Soldiers have become a normal thing.

ya u r right dude....these indian forget their own sins and now they r trying to b an angel on kashmir as if their "innocent" army is being slaughter in kashmir....they r forgetting the rapes,toutures n killing their army has done...
here in the US i have a senior officer from Napalese Army....n he says tht it is just coz of indian tht the Maoists terrosits r a pian in their a**...indian is supporting terroism in baluchistan n sri lanka also.....(btw did i tell u i also happen to serve with an Sri lankan army officer)...

 

[Xeric]

Actually, its kinda sad that Pakistanis are throwing their life away to get killed in a foreign country.

It might create a few headaches for India, but its not going to make Pakistan any stronger.
Having a Jehadi culture never did any good. Thnk of Afghanistan.

what what whaa whaa..what did u say ....a "foreign country"...u call kashmir a foreign country from pakistan's point of veiw...wow!!!

 

[IceCold]

Well taking into the account the debates of almost all of the top political parties and specially their foreign policy regarding india, one cant expect this. Even Singh sb could not hold on to his seat and decided he should pay a visit to the next door neighbour, the opportunity may never come back again and then this, hmmm seems very strange to me and i dont personally think this will be allowed to happen, seems very unrealistic, though there isnt a solution other then this available either.

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

Well taking into the account the debates of almost all of the top political parties and specially their foreign policy regarding india, one cant expect this. Even Singh sb could not hold on to his seat and decided he should pay a visit to the next door neighbour, the opportunity may never come back again and then this, hmmm seems very strange to me and i dont personally think this will be allowed to happen, seems very unrealistic, though there isnt a solution other then this available either.

Mate can oyu be a bit more clear or can you explain in detail what you have said above because it is a bit difficult for me to comprehend. Would like to hear from you

Cheers

 

[Xeric]

If you are a real military officer, I would expect a better standard of English. This seems too pedestrian and you do a disservice to the image of a professional PA official cadre.

i am not here to prove who i am ...and u shouldnt be concerned abt tht...relax...
and is it english tht your army sets as a standard to get your ppl recruited into the indian army....????..well if thts the case now i knw why u have been displaying low standards as soldier in areas like siachen n kashmir..... speak guud english dude n fight like a caputred soldier...

i dnt want to say anything as it would be contrary to our confidentiality policy(again ill not like to use the actual phrase )...i could have proven u wrong at more than one place.....