'Banned' JuD thrives in Pakistan

[WAR-rior]

as an atheist guy who attended RSS for 2-3 years some years back, I would like to state some facts about the organization:

they run branches/shakhas where they work on improving physical fitness and nationalistic pride among kids/ youth.
lathi/ stick fight training is taught as a self defense tool, and you will be shouted at if you ever tried to hurt anyone randomly with the stick.

the word Muslim was never mentioned, not even once, in the 2-3 years I was there.

they have a separate Muslim wing- which has membership in millions.
they have mass meetings, where the tone is secular to hindu nationalistic.

the members are largely secular, and do not care about hindutva much. It is considered as a place to learn discipline and play games.
I have a small dislike for the pro hindutva elements in some of the oldies. Young Hindus are largely secular / atheistic.

People dont understand that Hindu extrimist groups are not all subsets of RSS. Bajrang Dal is one group which is completely anti Muslim and it has nothing to do with RSS.

RSS talks bout HINDUTVA which is differnt from the so called definition of extrimists. This HINDUTVA is cultural in nature and talks bout Unity in Diversity. Go listen to last 4,5 speeches by Mohan Bhagwat. HE says India is a hindu nation. It doesnt mean others shud be prosecuted or annihilated. Thats what the impression Pakistan has and thats completely due to parties like Congress which has demonised the opposition for personal votebank politics. Finally, karma bites back we see where Congress today is.

People today have accepted HINDUTVA. But again, its not Bajrang Dal type Hindutva which says Muslims and minoroties are demons. India will never accept this kind of ideology. This is BJP/RSS style Hindutva which talks bout culture and traditions of this land. Its similar to that in Europe and America. We all are allowed and invited to live there but we will have to learn their respective languages and traditions. So is Europe doomed? Is America doomed. Identity is the root cause of prosperity of any civilization. Just coz Pakistanis suffer identity crises doesnt mean our stance is wrong.

Even our region deserves the same. Bangladeshis are proud of their identity, Indians in their own way are proud of their culture and tradition and RSS is only bettering it.

Pakistan is and will always be in identity crises. Reason is simple, no matter how much we call them, they will not want to be part of Subcontinent culture and on the other side Mideastern countries will never accept them no matter how much they want. Its on Pakistanis to decide to be a part of Hindutva (Name given by Persians for ALL PEOPLE of Subcontinent). And once again, its not the Hindutva which includes Ghar wapasi kind of bullshits.. Its the Hindutva which gives u identity. Some reason RSS Muslim wing called MUSLIM JAGRAN MANCH is thriving with so many educated Muslims.

 

[ashok mourya]

Any one in the world of different religion is not Pro Hindu..they hate us.....in order to survive we just have to increase our strength..not hurt any body from other religion..but if attacked destroy them in 10 times....

 

[SrNair]

Same who will save these children from their terrorist teachers:

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What a pleasure .
Still I remember thegood values ,discipline they taught me.

Hmmmmmm did we seek any clarifications? Calm down buddy it was just a pic of some children (some very big children too) with dandas and some odd gesture. No need to justify anything.

What is taught with these big dandas?



Why not ask them what they think about Muslims in their country? I bet most of them will differ in thinking as you are trying to imply here.....................

Have watched videos myself so no hank panky han, clear straight honest answer

Sometimes my class was with members ffrom Muslim Vichar Manch.A large muslim wing of RSS.You should heardtheir patriotic speech and good moral that is valuable to the prosperity of these nation.

 

[OrionHunter]

General Hafiz Seed should be given the Nishan-e-Haidar by Pakistan for his sterling work in abetting the proxy war against India with his army of Yahoos as well as for his immense contribution to Pakistan society and an indefatigable spokesman for the Establishment.

 

[Echo_419]

Zarvan bhai, I know you are a die hard fan of any hardliner/organisations like Jud...... I dont expect any thing else from you..... It was a genuine concern towards those kids and their future.... But as you said Why should we worry?

Studying at these kinds of schools these kids don't have a bright future

Same who will save these children from their terrorist teachers:

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Comparing Dandas to AK's

 

[Jaanbaz]

Education by Jamaat Ud Dawa?????? God Bless Pakistan!!!!!!

More like God save Pakistan.

General Hafiz Seed should be given the Nishan-e-Haidar by Pakistan for his sterling work in abetting the proxy war against India with his army of Yahoos as well as for his immense contribution to Pakistan society and an indefatigable spokesman for the Establishment.

That might be a good troll but it might happen in another 10 years.

A large muslim wing of RSS

RSS allows Muslims in their organisation?

 

[Aamna Ali]

More like God save Pakistan.



That might be a good troll but it might happen in another 10 years.



RSS allows Muslims in their organisation?

Yes it does!



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[Jaanbaz]

Yes it does!

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Do they have to wear orange dhoti and stuff?

 

[OrionHunter]

This is what they are taught

Hell's bells! This is totally unbelievable!! Just look at those little kids who proudly say they will become jehadists! One kid even demonstrated how to put on a suicide jacket!! And their teachers are looking on with pride!

What kind of a society is being spawned? And just check out the distorted history which is being taught not only in madasas but in normal schools too. The propaganda is unbelievable!

So that's the future of Pakistan we're looking at! It's bad news not only for the Pakistanis but the world too.

 

[Aamna Ali]

Do they have to wear orange dhoti and stuff?

BTW a dhoti is a cultural thing. It has nothing to do with Hinduism or Islam.

 

[Jaanbaz]

BTW a dhoti is a cultural thing. It has nothing to do with Hinduism or Islam.

I meant an orange dhotti. Do you guys have to wear a dot on your head too?

 

[xTra]

Do they have to wear orange dhoti and stuff?

Who told you RSS wear Orange Dhoti and Stuff..............Education ruined you...........

 

[Aamna Ali]

I meant an orange dhotti. Do you guys have to wear a dot on your head too?

Nope..Thats a cultural thing too! Mostly Hindu's wear it when wearing Sarees along with bangles.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Who told you RSS wear Orange Dhoti and Stuff..............Education ruined you...........

I always thought RSS guys wear orange dhotti with a dot on their head, they have swords and shout Ram Ram. I blame the media for it. I never even knew they had a Muslim wing too.

Nope..Thats a cultural thing too! Mostly Hindu's wear it when wearing Sarees along with bangles.

Okay.

 

[Aamna Ali]

I always thought RSS guys wear orange dhotti with a dot on their head, they have swords and shout Ram Ram. I blame the media for it. I never even knew they had a Muslim wing too.



Okay.

Those are usually the Bajrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad yahoos ! They shout Ram Ram without having a clue about the Ramayana or the significance of the color orange!
Well! The media always loves to grab eyeballs!