Bangladesh upset over Teen Bigha ‘snub’

[ashok321]

Will you care to disclose what is the hidden treasure or billion you are talking about that Bangladesh gets from India??? Instead all these bordering Indian states and areas survive on Bangladesh and by smuggling goods to Bangladesh which is now worth 3 to 5 billion dollar. May be even more.

You forgot that BD got billion USD from India last year-

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

You forgot that BD got billion USD from India last year-

Which billion dollar ??? Will you care to provide detail!!! N what is the comparison of billion dollar to the 3 to 5 billion dollar of smmugling of Indian goods to Bangladesh each year apart from legal trade???

 

[Banana]

Which billion dollar ??? Will you care to provide detail!!! N what is the comparison of billion dollar to the 3 to 5 billion dollar of smmugling of Indian goods to Bangladesh each year apart from legal trade???

Billion Dollar was given to you as Loan for Development of Infrastructure - Roads, Railway and Ports. Bangladesh Budget for Infrastructure is hardly $700 Million. Certainly a Windfall Gain for Bangladesh!

Also What about Millions of Smuggled People(Illegals) from Bangladesh to India?

 

[asad71]

1.Per Mujib - Indira Pact 1974, the corridor was to be leased to BD in perpetuity. Which means sovereignty will transfer to BD. What now stooge Hasina has accepted is a 24 hr entry permission which will allow India to close the corridor or reduce the time whenever they wish.

2. GOI and its ministers and high officers have always made tall claims of giving this or that on their own. BD has never asked GOI for any finance, because we don't need any from India who is already one of the top borrowers in the world. Moreover, 100% pledges / promises made by Indian ministers and high officials have proven to be bogus. However, everyone in BD knows this characteristic of India well.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Billion Dollar was given to you as Loan for Development of Infrastructure - Roads, Railway and Ports. Bangladesh Budget for Infrastructure is hardly $700 Million. Certainly a Windfall Gain for Bangladesh!

Also What about Millions of Smuggled People(Illegals) from Bangladesh to India?

Ohh gosh stupidity of the bhartis knows no bound... India did not give the loan for free which many expert in Bangladesh said that loan was of no need under present condition. N that states for all the projects that will be undertaken must be completed by Indian companies only n it can not go below 85% and if Indian company can not provide any service then the foreign contractor must be selected by India. All the work can only proceed if indian foreign ministry gives approval.

Major outlining points are ... All of these projects are mainly meant for Indian transit which India will use for free ... so India should have paid for it. For example, to get access to china through myanmar Bangladesh will pay for the construction of the road. Unlike burdening it on Myanmar.

2ndly this 1 billion USD grant mainly turned from loan to promoting low graded Indian Companies. If proper tender would have been invited it could be somewhat acceptable.

In Bangladesh toal annual development program for this year is 6.4 billion USD. N private sector internal investment is 20 billion USD. So, this 1 billion USD is just a peanuts. India is mainly benefiting with this loan by promoting its sub standard companies and putting the burden on Bangladesh to build the transit infra and will have to return the money with interest.

Bangladesh approves highest annual development programme | South Asia | South Asian News Agency


N which illegal migration you are talking about!!! If any one gone it is mostly due to cheat and fraud by indian agents who sold them the dream of heaven like life in India. But after going there they have realized instead of a land of milk and honey that is a poverty stricken country where 37-78% people lives below poverty line. Now these people are poorest of the poor. but these number is no where the myth that has been proposed by BJP 20 million.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Those who are jumping with 20 million illegal migration rant... this thread is for you...

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/136046-bgb-bsf-talks-deaths-border-continue.html

Here, majority of the myth related to illegal migration, smuggling has been exposed.

 

[idune]

If Awami regime had taken people aspiration into account while dealing with india we never came to this situation. Hasin's father Sheikh Mujib first gave up Bangladeshi land unilaterally and now Hasina doing the same. Snab has nothing to do with country "Bangladesh" but everything to do with Hasina and Awami regime. If india and indians are enjoying snubbing Hasina they they should now they are only dealing with their domesticated regime not Bangladesh.

 

[Banana]

Ohh gosh stupidity of the bhartis knows no bound... India did not give the loan for free which many expert in Bangladesh said that loan was of no need under present condition. N that states for all the projects that will be undertaken must be completed by Indian companies only n it can not go below 85% and if Indian company can not provide any service then the foreign contractor must be selected by India. All the work can only proceed if indian foreign ministry gives approval.

Major outlining points are ... All of these projects are mainly meant for Indian transit which India will use for free ... so India should have paid for it. For example, to get access to china through myanmar Bangladesh will pay for the construction of the road. Unlike burdening it on Myanmar.

2ndly this 1 billion USD grant mainly turned from loan to promoting low graded Indian Companies. If proper tender would have been invited it could be somewhat acceptable.

In Bangladesh toal annual development program for this year is 6.4 billion USD. N private sector internal investment is 20 billion USD. So, this 1 billion USD is just a peanuts. India is mainly benefiting with this loan by promoting its sub standard companies and putting the burden on Bangladesh to build the transit infra and will have to return the money with interest.

Bangladesh approves highest annual development programme | South Asia | South Asian News Agency

The government is going to sign a $770 million tied loan deal with China, which will require selection of two Chinese firms to set up a fertiliser factory and lay out telecom network.

This will leave no scope for Bangladesh to get the best price offers or look for technology options.

Such selection of contractors is required under the new lending policy of China.

After discussing the issue at several high-level meetings, the government has agreed in principle to the Chinese conditions, as it has no alternative source of funding for these two projects, said sources at Economic Relations Division (ERD).

Once the prime minister gives the go-ahead, the ministries concerned will take steps to ink the deal.

Of the loan amount, $559 million will be for the setting up of Shahjalal Fertiliser Factory and $211 million for the introduction of 3G technology and expansion of the existing 2.5G network, added the ERD sources.

ERD documents say natural gas will be available for Shahjalal factory in future, but Petrobangla's forecast does not show any surplus gas supply in the coming years. An acute gas crisis has compelled the government to cut gas supply to the existing fertiliser factories.


Interest rate on the Chinese loan is two percent and it is payable within 20 years with a five-year grace period. Besides, the commitment charge is 0.2 percent and management fees are 0.2 percent.


ERD sources mentioned that the interest rate is slightly higher than that of the $1billion credit from India under the recently signed deal but it is lower than that of suppliers' credits offered by China in the past. The rate of interest on Indian credit is 1.75 percent and commitment charge is 0.5 percent.


$770m Chinese loan tied with conditions

Did the Illiterate Bangladeshi get how the Loan works?

N which illegal migration you are talking about!!! If any one gone it is mostly due to cheat and fraud by indian agents who sold them the dream of heaven like life in India. But after going there they have realized instead of a land of milk and honey that is a poverty stricken country where 37-78% people lives below poverty line. Now these people are poorest of the poor. but these number is no where the myth that has been proposed by BJP 20 million.

India Will Deport 20 Million Illegals From Bangladesh

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India will launch a drive this year to deport more than 20 million illegal immigrants from Bangladesh because they pose a serious security threat, the home ministry said on Tuesday.

India Will Deport 20 Million Illegals From Bangladesh




With nearly half of 150 million people already living below the poverty line, higher food prices Bangladesh will have a severe impact of climate change on poor people's ability to buy enough food.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...h-most-vulnerable-country-climate-change.html



Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants threat to India: court - India News - IBNLive

Bangla convict to be deported - Times Of India

Twice in 4 yrs, Bangladeshi deported again - Express India

 

[idune]

The government is going to sign a $770 million tied loan deal with China, which will require selection of two Chinese firms to set up a fertiliser factory and lay out telecom network.

This will leave no scope for Bangladesh to get the best price offers or look for technology options.

Such selection of contractors is required under the new lending policy of China.

Bangladesh already has quite a few fertilizer factories. So technology and price wise Bangladesh selection of Chinese option are the best. Besides Chinese telecom gears are widely accepted including in India. So Bangladesh made good choice there as well.

Loan wise Bangladesh has special relation with China. Loan terms are not bad at all considering how many times China built infrastructure in Bangladesh and then waived loans for bridges, convention center and many other things.

In fact China at the moment considering waiving some of its previous loan to Bangladesh.

China provided duty free access for nearly 5000 Bangladeshi products (70%) and working to provide 90% of Bangladeshi products.

China is the reason Bangladesh arms forces have leg to stand on.

List goes on…..

Same goes with Japan which waived more than $1 billion loan during last BNP govt.

India and Indian will NEVER understand Bangladesh relationship with China and never could be the same.

Nonetheless, Bangladesh and China relation is Bangladesh own matter and prerogative. India CAN NOT be treated in same scale. If india and Indians don’t like it, they can pound bag of sand and look for handout elsewhere.

Did the Illiterate Bangladeshi get how the Loan works?

oh, we understand loan alright! we just don't accept indian robbery in broad day light using Awami stooge regime as means and term "loan" as cover.

 

[newdelhinsa]

However, everyone in BD knows this characteristic of India well.

Everyone knows the traits of Bangladesh as well in India too. You were not able to be friend with your own West Pakistan how you could be friend of anyone else? Your country is full of selfish and thankless smugglers who would like to eat for free but cry foul when country like India would bargain hard (as they do with anyone) with you.

Bangladesh want this Bangladesh want that and your list is ever growing. But when it comes to cooperation of give and take with India; all the superstitious Bangladeshi mullah brigade would start floating absurd doubts.

The bottom line is that you are a typical subcontinent fundamentalist muslim state who can not comes in terms with any one especially with India; you guys think as Hindu India.

Go screw your self and live in Isolation.

 

[ramu]

Sami,

If there was no need for the loan, no need for fertilisers as BD already has it, why is your government head over heals to impress India and China to give them to you ? You know little about what your country wants. If you really know a lot and your Government is foolish then hard luck.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Everyone knows the traits of Bangladesh as well in India too. You were not able to be friend with your own West Pakistan how you could be friend of anyone else? Your country is full of selfish and thankless smugglers who would like to eat for free but cry foul when country like India would bargain hard (as they do with anyone) with you.

Bangladesh want this Bangladesh want that and your list is ever growing. But when it comes to cooperation of give and take with India; all the superstitious Bangladeshi mullah brigade would start floating absurd doubts.

The bottom line is that you are a typical subcontinent fundamentalist muslim state who can not comes in terms with any one especially with India; you guys think as Hindu India.

Go screw your self and live in Isolation.

you better screw yourself... idiot.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

The government is going to sign a $770 million tied loan deal with China, which will require selection of two Chinese firms to set up a fertiliser factory and lay out telecom network.

This will leave no scope for Bangladesh to get the best price offers or look for technology options.

Such selection of contractors is required under the new lending policy of China.

After discussing the issue at several high-level meetings, the government has agreed in principle to the Chinese conditions, as it has no alternative source of funding for these two projects, said sources at Economic Relations Division (ERD).

Once the prime minister gives the go-ahead, the ministries concerned will take steps to ink the deal.

Of the loan amount, $559 million will be for the setting up of Shahjalal Fertiliser Factory and $211 million for the introduction of 3G technology and expansion of the existing 2.5G network, added the ERD sources.

ERD documents say natural gas will be available for Shahjalal factory in future, but Petrobangla's forecast does not show any surplus gas supply in the coming years. An acute gas crisis has compelled the government to cut gas supply to the existing fertiliser factories.


Interest rate on the Chinese loan is two percent and it is payable within 20 years with a five-year grace period. Besides, the commitment charge is 0.2 percent and management fees are 0.2 percent.


ERD sources mentioned that the interest rate is slightly higher than that of the $1billion credit from India under the recently signed deal but it is lower than that of suppliers' credits offered by China in the past. The rate of interest on Indian credit is 1.75 percent and commitment charge is 0.5 percent.


$770m Chinese loan tied with conditions

Did the Illiterate Bangladeshi get how the Loan works?

What that chinese loan has to do over here. That was signed initially in 2004/2005. At that time it was mainly to expand the 2g network of teletalk. But later it was not executed. So after a while china proposed this alternative projects to expand the 2.5 g and 3g network and build the fertilizer. Yes many in Bangladesh opposed the term and condition of the loan also. As for the case of expanding 2.5 g and 3g network Ericsson also proposed for the project and provide commitment for line of credit from the swedish government. But some say Huawei provided bribed to the ministry official to remain stick to the project. N the final reason for remaining stick to the project is mostly diplomatic. Relation with china is most important priority for Bangladesh even more then that of India which is a poverty sticken thrird world country and much backward then China. N the other reason Huawei is doing fine in implementing many projects throughout the world. Even Grameenphone and warid/airtel also planned to expand their network by huawei. N for implementing fertilizer project china companies are doing it throughout the world. There is nothing wrong in it. Regarding interest rate it is 1.75% for india but there is also a .5% commitment fees but for the case of china it is only .2% but there are also another .2% rate. Which makes it 2.4% for china and 2.25% for India. Not a big difference.

But both cases are different as India is providing that loan to build transit infra which India will use it for itself for free and they are promoting their sub standard companies through the loan. N for the case of China this loan has been offered after selecting Chinese companies which many country offer such line of credit. Where India provided the loan with condition Bangladesh will have to select Indian companies. Here condition has been applied before selection process.

N all these has nothing to do with your claim bangladehs use 770 million USD for its infra and development each which I have shown wrong as Bangladesh government spend 6.4 Billion USD annually and another around 20 billion USD has been spent by the private sector internally.

India Will Deport 20 Million Illegals From Bangladesh

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India will launch a drive this year to deport more than 20 million illegal immigrants from Bangladesh because they pose a serious security threat, the home ministry said on Tuesday.

India Will Deport 20 Million Illegals From Bangladesh




Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants threat to India: court - India News - IBNLive

Bangla convict to be deported - Times Of India

Twice in 4 yrs, Bangladeshi deported again - Express India

India Will Deport 20 Million Illegals From Bangladesh

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India will launch a drive this year to deport more than 20 million illegal immigrants from Bangladesh because they pose a serious security threat, the home ministry said on Tuesday.

Bhartis like you always want to remain on their day dream ... like this fake news article which they published by the name of Reutars. In reality there are no such news by Reutars.

This supposed article was published in 2002... n Indian authority was supposed to deport 20 million Illegal Bangladeshi but 10 years passed by But yet bahrtis will have to deport 20 million illegal Bangladeshi.

With nearly half of 150 million people already living below the poverty line, higher food prices Bangladesh will have a severe impact of climate change on poor people's ability to buy enough food.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...h-most-vulnerable-country-climate-change.html

Bangladesh lifts 13mn from poverty

Bangladesh lifts 13mn from poverty | | bdnews24.com

Thu, Jun 23rd, 2011 12:09 am BdST

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Dhaka, June 22 (bdnews24.com) — Bangladesh has cut down its poverty by about 8.5 percentage points since 2005, according to a World Bank-sponsored survey.

Almost 13 million people were lifted out of poverty during this period, says the Household Income Expenditure Survey 2010, released by the Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics (BBS) at a city hotel on Wednesday.

According to the World Bank-supported survey, poverty in the country has declined to 31.5 percent from 40 percent in 2005.

It's official: 37 pc live below poverty line - India News - IBNLive

Two other reports had pegged poverty at higher levels. The Arjun Sengupta report had said 77 per cent of Indians live on less than Rs 20 a day while the N C Saxena Committee report had said 50 per cent of people live below poverty. However, the Tendulkar report with a figure of at 37 per cent, is perhaps more acceptable to the government.

India - 37-78% people live below poverty line vs. Bangladesh 31%

 

[Roybot]

India - 37-78% people live below poverty line vs. Bangladesh 31%

Irrelevant, but you need to check your data.

 

[LaBong]

Irrelevant, but you need to check your data.

He is yet to fathom that different measures have been used by different committees/countries to compute poverty. But let's not throw pearls of wisdom to undeserving.