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Bangladesh originated from movement for Bangla as national language of East Pakistan:Pranab Mukherje

In his 1947 speech Quaid e Azam said urdu will be national language but all provinces are free to adopt regional languages
So federation had to be run in urdu but provinces could translate their local documents and day to day affairs in their local language
Urdu = Ordu = Army in Turkish....

Rahmet-li Jinnah understood it too well: without a strong Pak Ordu, fluent in Urdu, forget about freedom....

Fighting against almost the entire world the Pak Ordu has won in Afganistan, and that too twice!!! As for the fight against the 7x larger nemesis, whose religious redemption lies in Pak's destruction, it's a 24/7 matter....

As for the BD Army, devoid of Urdu, forget about fighting the external enemies!!! Even the survival of the serving officers is a 24/7 struggle for the soldiers under their command have the following mindset:

Soldiers are brothers to one another
We want the blood of our officer

And, they implement it in verbatim. They break into the quarters of the officers (including the female ones from the medical corps), forcibly drag them out and shoot them at the point blank. All BD military officers are like "dead men walking*"....

*It's a jargon used for the death row inmates in the US prisons
 
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Urdu = Ordu = Army in Turkish....

Rahmet-li Jinnah understood it too well: without a strong Pak Ordu, fluent in Urdu, forget about freedom....

Fighting against almost the entire world the Pak Ordu has won in Afganistan, and that too twice!!! As for the fight against 7x larger nemesis, whose religious redemption lies in Pak's destruction, it's a 24/7 matter....

As for the BD Army, devoid of Urdu, forget about fighting the external enemies!!! Even the survival of the serving officers is a 24/7 struggle for the soldiers under their command have the following mindset:

Soldiers are brothers to one another
We want the blood of our officer

And, they implement it in verbatim. They break into the quarters of the officers (including the female officers fro the medical corps), forcibly drag them out and shoot them at the point blank. All BD military officers are like dead men walking....
Baby!! Grow up a little and stop throwing ignorance in all your meaningless posts. Urdu/Persian was no more relevant to the Muslims of Bengal after the 1830s when the British substituted Persian with English. Note also that neither Urdu nor Persian was sent from Heaven. Do not you think so?
 
Baby!! Grow up a little and stop throwing ignorance in all your meaningless posts. Urdu/Persian was no more relevant to the Muslims of Bengal after the 1830s when the British substituted Persian with English. Note also that neither Urdu nor Persian was sent from Heaven. Do not you think so?
Baby same as in UK we got Wales and Scotland One speaks Welsh and the other Gaelic but all speak English as a tool of unity and national language while speaking their own languages. Bangla babu were too stupid to understand that and we are happy to get rid of them.
 
Pakistan was a good riddance for us. We created history two times. One before and in 1947 by virtue of which you have been removed from the Slave status of your Lalaji Sikh Overlords. The other we created by fighting your overlord attitudes of bullying. You have become a debtor nation as a result while we are enjoying our dollars. Oh!! It is more than $32 billion that you can no more steal. What a relief!!

You created history only of creating over populated tiny lala land and of your traitorous blood. Pakistan was bound to happen one way or the other. This debtor nation have free will and a regional power projection unlike a tiny satellite state which owes it's freedom to outsiders and terrorists (ahh who will free you from this debt). For us, $$ pesa is coming and going thing, not freedom and free will. Good luck with those 32 billion that you earn by selling your women. At least you can't steal from us now. Oh and as for good riddance, the feeling is mutual that I assure you.
 
from bengalis i hear they wanted only bangladesh as national langauage for both east and west pakistan.

No Bengali I know claims this.

Why would they want West Pakistanis to go to the trouble of learning Bengali? That is an uphill battle.

But civilized nations with two languages do exist, and in the same continent and land mass. It is possible.

Some ex-Pakistanis today are citizens of this civilized nation called Canada.
 
You created history only of creating over populated tiny lala land and of your traitorous blood. Pakistan was bound to happen one way or the other. This debtor nation have free will and a regional power projection unlike a tiny satellite state which owes it's freedom to outsiders and terrorists (ahh who will free you from this debt). For us, $$ pesa is coming and going thing, not freedom and free will. Good luck with those 32 billion that you earn by selling your women. At least you can't steal from us now. Oh and as for good riddance, the feeling is mutual that I assure you.
Pak asks, the world delivers by HIS permission for Pak has volunteered to defend the Haremain...

Pak's financial mismanagement was deliberate through the traitors sent to kill her from inside, for facing her in an open confrontation is history now!! IK hasn't made it into his six months yet, but look at the reversal of fortune for Pak!!! Folks from the KSA to Russia are coming to Pak to invest in the multiples of $10bs!!! Let some folks be happy with their small stuffs....

By the by, even under the worst financial crisis, Pak is producing a squadron of fighters a year; whereas, with the best finances BD can't go beyond a couple of trainer jets....

A single Taliban "Dude in bedsheet" has more strategic acumen than that of all of the BD folks put together...
 
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No Bengali I know claims this.

Why would they want West Pakistanis to go to the trouble of learning Bengali? That is an uphill battle.

But civilized nations with two languages do exist, and in the same continent and land mass. It is possible.

Some ex-Pakistanis today are citizens of this civilized nation called Canada.
so why was lanugaued used as main force for Bangladesh creation, when in every constitution it was declared as nationa llanguage
 
Pakistan was a good riddance for us. We created history two times. One before and in 1947 by virtue of which you have been removed from the Slave status of your Lalaji Sikh Overlords. The other we created by fighting your overlord attitudes of bullying. You have become a debtor nation as a result while we are enjoying our dollars. Oh!! It is more than $32 billion that you can no more steal. What a relief!!
You people have nothing to lose.Someone already has stolen your independence,freedom,conscious and your sovereignty.$32 is paper money but not an asset. Obviously this is hard earned money.Credit also goes to those 500000 girls and women who have nothing to
offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat in the brothels of India for the betterment of their country and country men.


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so why was lanugaued used as main force for Bangladesh creation, when in every constitution it was declared as nationa llanguage
Earlier it was decided alone that Urdu will be the national language. Students protested. Muslim League leaders wanted Urdu to be the national language. While United front leaders promised to make Bangla a national language too. Thus in 1954 provincial election in East Pakistan, Muslim League was destroyed winning only 9 out of 313 seats. That marked the end of Muslim League in East Pakistan. And later Bengali was given national language status.

Language issue died down after that. From m United front, Suhrawardi became PM of whole Pakistan. Fazlul haw became Chief minister of Bengal. Sheikh Mujib became minister of industries of Pakistan. And United front wanted provincial autonomy for East Pakistan.

Later United front govt was dismissed accused of succession movement of East Pakistan. This made people of East Pakistan disheartened. And United front leader Maulana Bhasani first called for separation in 1957. However separation movement was not a mainstream thing before 1970 election. Many openly called for separation after Yahya refused to handover power to Mujib. After operation searchlight, Separation was the only way.
 
so why was lanugaued used as main force for Bangladesh creation, when in every constitution it was declared as nationa llanguage

Like @Mage mentioned above - language movement started in 1952 and that got the attention of Ayub Khan Govt. so they relented a lot on Urdu question. A lot of things were published in both languages for a while.

This could have continued - but East Pakistani separatists saw a lot of advantage in 'self rule', in that the homeboys wanted to exploit their own (which is what is happening now in 2019).

However (alleged) continued nepotism and (alleged) preference of hiring West Pakistanis (especially Punjabis) in Pakistani civil administration as well as armed services under various 'bahana' continued after 1952 (which did not reduce, much less stop completely), which solidified East Pakistani disgruntlement and eventually gave EP secessionists a reason to ask for 100% self rule, which the Sheikh found a nice vehicle to ride on as he thought he was in the driver's seat by now. EP Secessionists' calls turn into full platforms of call to 'freedom' by 1970.

What the West Pakistani elite and powerful should have done at that point is to pacify the situation by neutralizing separatists by providing some publicly announced facilities to East Pakistan as far as self rule and separate economy (including separate currency) - in 'waha tum aur yaha hum' fashion, but keeping defense and diplomacy intact. This would have been ideal until the Sheikh could have been peacefully deposed.

However Bhutto being the inarticulate greedy idiot as we all know f*cked everything up by refusing to negotiate deftly with the Sheikh right before March 25 1971, and defeat the Sheikh's separatist machinations (The sheikh could have become flexible at some point, given enough quarter, and had indicated as such). This started the massive civil war (Freedom struggle in Bangladeshi parlance, or as termed 'gandogol-er time' by sarcastic folks) that our current PM now wants to keep alive, until kingdom come, so she can justify her demagoguery over this country.

The rest is history.

You people have nothing to lose.Someone already has stolen your independence,freedom,conscious and your sovereignty.$32 is paper money but not an asset. Obviously this is hard earned money.Credit also goes to those 500000 girls and women who have nothing to
offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat in the brothels of India for the betterment of their country and country men.


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Obsessing over Bangladeshi women in Indian brothels is rather common nowadays in this forum and seen as 'salve' provided to some mythic wound. All countries pass through good and bad times.

What difference does a prostitute from either Pakistan or India have? They have 'Made in Pakistan' tattoed on their foreheads? Poor people get exploited everywhere, one cannot do anything other than giving them a way to earn 'Halal Rooji', which is what we do better than either Pakistan or India. FACT.

Pakistan maybe going through hard times - but bad mouthing Bangladesh or its inhabitants will not bring back Pakistani fortunes, which will require hard work, fiscal planning and some financial sacrifice and less reliance over Arabs for money or religious inspiration - meaning slowly getting rid of religious extremists.

It will also require some mending of fences with India politically as well as reduction in paranoid arms expenditures which are a major drain on Pakistan's resources. Defense industry will make some folks in the armed forces rich, it never feeds, clothes, schools or provides shelter to the hundreds of millions of Pakistanis. That age and that need for offense is gone. Whomever gives you propaganda to the contrary is lying. India will never make the mistake of striking the first blow to Pakistan - defense capability is enough.

As Pakistan is run by its military, the military has to realize this themselves. If your cows (Pakistan's resources) are your only source of nutrition and agri-labor, then killing them and having Biryani (expensive showcase and defense projects) is not a great idea although it may seem to be a great idea at the time. The repercussions will surely come later.

I wish the best to my Pakistani brothers and sisters.

Brother @Horus your thoughts...
 
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In his 1947 speech Quaid e Azam said urdu will be national language but all provinces are free to adopt regional languages
So federation had to be run in urdu but provinces could translate their local documents and day to day affairs in their local language

And thereby planted the seed for Bangladesh. Pakistan was created by bengalies and jinnah is an insignificant personality to us. He had no political, legal or moral capital to make such a pronouncement for bangalies as history subsequently proved.

You created history only of creating over populated tiny lala land and of your traitorous blood. Pakistan was bound to happen one way or the other. This debtor nation have free will and a regional power projection unlike a tiny satellite state which owes it's freedom to outsiders and terrorists (ahh who will free you from this debt). For us, $$ pesa is coming and going thing, not freedom and free will. Good luck with those 32 billion that you earn by selling your women. At least you can't steal from us now. Oh and as for good riddance, the feeling is mutual that I assure you.

Living in USA you dream of pakistan as a power....it is not...

The trajectory of your nation is downwards, you have turned yourself into a failed pariah nation requiring handout to stumble month to month economically.

Our $32bn reserves you could only dream off at this moment.

I agree only in that separation was bound to happen because there was no way the east was going to carry you forever.

As for the word traitor .... i would just refer to glass houses.... you people were the backbone of the british forces fighting against freedom fighters of the subcontinent pre 1857 and after whilst we have remained in the right side of history at everypoint. You were the bitch of the British Raj, thank everyday that we existed so that you now have a pakistan. Pick up history book sometimes.

so why was lanugaued used as main force for Bangladesh creation, when in every constitution it was declared as nationa llanguage
Because we do not give a damn about urdu or jinnah or the west pakistani leadership who did not have our permission to declare urdu as the primary language of pakistan. As such we broke what we created and there was nothing you can do about it other than to claim that is what you always wanted.
 
In his 1947 speech Quaid e Azam said urdu will be national language but all provinces are free to adopt regional languages
So federation had to be run in urdu but provinces could translate their local documents and day to day affairs in their local language
Actually, if you think deeply, Quaid-e-Azam's thinking was also difficult to adopt at that time. Think of the languages other than Urdu and Bengali all other languages, including even the difficult Punjabi, were not very developed. It would have been difficult to follow his suggestion in the long run. So, the final outcome of Urdu and Bengali as the two national languages instead of many other languages was the practical solution.

However, the GoP should have initiated people of the two wings to learn each other's language. In the east there was an effort by the people to learn broken Urdu. In the SSC curriculum, a student had to take either Urdu, Arabic, Persian, or Sanskrit as an optional subject. But, it did not happen in the west. No effort was made to teach Bengali there through the mass media and school curriculum. However, generally speaking, the people of BD even today know tutafata Urdu/Hindi. They can understand when listening but not so fluent when speaking.
 
But civilized nations with two languages do exist, and in the same continent and land mass. It is possible.
Yes. And the Pakistanis even do not know a small Switzerland has three languages with equal status. These are German, French, and Italian. There is also another with lesser status, Romansh.
 
now same is happening in India when most of southern states are against Hindi

To be honest with you I have nothing against Hindi. Even i know Hindi because of Bollywood. Younger generation BD girls are more fluent in Hindi than you think. thanks to all the Indian TV channels.
 

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