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After 200 T-90MS, Vietnam will buy a much larger number of T-72B3?

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T-72B3 is considered a harmonious combination between production cost and tactical features, it is playing the backbone of the Russian army's armor.

Recently, the Russian media said that Vietnam could soon sign a contract to order 200 T-90MS main battle tanks to serve the process of modernizing the Army.


This is really good news for the military lovers of the country, if the process goes smoothly, the Vietnamese Infantry will soon return to the No. 1 power position in Southeast Asia after a long time. Priorities for Air Defense - Air Force, Navy and Communications.


Main battle tank T-90MS

However, it is easy to see that the number of 200 T-90MS above is only enough to equip two regiments, surely they will be prioritized to deploy in key areas with important strategic significance.

Meanwhile, in order to create a real qualitative shift for the 8 tank brigades currently in service, Vietnam will need a larger number of modern vehicles, as T-54/55 is expected to not Complete upgrade that only selective focus.

But because the defense budget is tight, the budget for the T-90MS contract is estimated at billions of dollars (including accompanying ammunition and mining infrastructure), so it is unlikely to happen. It is likely that Vietnam will order the next batch of T-90MS we need a more practical solution.

Currently, the two countries with the world's leading armored forces, Russia and China, are also following the same direction, although their potential is much stronger than Vietnam.

Specifically, Russia is conducting the modernization program of T-72B to the T-72B3 standard at a large scale to fight alongside the T-90, while China continues to produce new versions of the Type series. 96 in spite of their always advertising that the Type 99 is the "Asian Tank King".

Therefore, in order to complete the task of bringing the Army forward to modernity, besides purchasing T-90MS or upgrading T-54/55, Vietnam should take into consideration the plan of retrofitting T-72B3.


The main battle tank T-72B3 was officially introduced in 2013, it is a harmonious combination of price and tactical features when it costs only $ 1.7 million of renovation costs (much cheaper. many times the figure 4.15 million for a new T-90A production).

T-72B3 and T-90 share a lot of technologies and equipment, such as the 125 mm 2A46M-5 smoothbore gun that can shoot new-generation bullets, Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armor, Sosna-U multichannel viewfinder or TKN-3MK combat management system ...

Russia has also recently launched the T-72B3M variant (also known as the T-72B4) fitted with a more powerful 1,130 horsepower V-92S2F diesel engine with a Relikt explosive reactive armor. The combat capability of the T-72B3M is assessed as close to the T-90.


T-72B3M tank (left) with T-90A (right) at Alabino field

In short, with the cheap price and the power almost equivalent to the T-90, Vietnam can consider and learn the way that Russia or China are doing, that is, buy a large amount of T-72B3 / B3M. to entrust the backbone of the armored force besides the upgraded T-54/55, to support the main force T-90MS.

If the above plan is implemented, the Army of Vietnam will surely build the first position in the region on both quantity and quality criteria.

https://soha.vn/sau-200-t-90ms-viet-nam-se-mua-so-luong-t-72b3-lon-hon-nhieu-20160810095940863.htm

Not directly about Bangladesh Army but shows possibly what they are thinking?

Also an estimated price of 1.7m for the upgrade alone.

Hopefully Bangladesh got a good deal and is gonna get the T-72B3M variant.
 
After 200 T-90MS, Vietnam will buy a much larger number of T-72B3?

1-1470797415833-46-0-434-760-crop-1470797473763.jpg

T-72B3 is considered a harmonious combination between production cost and tactical features, it is playing the backbone of the Russian army's armor.

Recently, the Russian media said that Vietnam could soon sign a contract to order 200 T-90MS main battle tanks to serve the process of modernizing the Army.


This is really good news for the military lovers of the country, if the process goes smoothly, the Vietnamese Infantry will soon return to the No. 1 power position in Southeast Asia after a long time. Priorities for Air Defense - Air Force, Navy and Communications.


Main battle tank T-90MS

However, it is easy to see that the number of 200 T-90MS above is only enough to equip two regiments, surely they will be prioritized to deploy in key areas with important strategic significance.

Meanwhile, in order to create a real qualitative shift for the 8 tank brigades currently in service, Vietnam will need a larger number of modern vehicles, as T-54/55 is expected to not Complete upgrade that only selective focus.

But because the defense budget is tight, the budget for the T-90MS contract is estimated at billions of dollars (including accompanying ammunition and mining infrastructure), so it is unlikely to happen. It is likely that Vietnam will order the next batch of T-90MS we need a more practical solution.

Currently, the two countries with the world's leading armored forces, Russia and China, are also following the same direction, although their potential is much stronger than Vietnam.

Specifically, Russia is conducting the modernization program of T-72B to the T-72B3 standard at a large scale to fight alongside the T-90, while China continues to produce new versions of the Type series. 96 in spite of their always advertising that the Type 99 is the "Asian Tank King".

Therefore, in order to complete the task of bringing the Army forward to modernity, besides purchasing T-90MS or upgrading T-54/55, Vietnam should take into consideration the plan of retrofitting T-72B3.


The main battle tank T-72B3 was officially introduced in 2013, it is a harmonious combination of price and tactical features when it costs only $ 1.7 million of renovation costs (much cheaper. many times the figure 4.15 million for a new T-90A production).

T-72B3 and T-90 share a lot of technologies and equipment, such as the 125 mm 2A46M-5 smoothbore gun that can shoot new-generation bullets, Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armor, Sosna-U multichannel viewfinder or TKN-3MK combat management system ...

Russia has also recently launched the T-72B3M variant (also known as the T-72B4) fitted with a more powerful 1,130 horsepower V-92S2F diesel engine with a Relikt explosive reactive armor. The combat capability of the T-72B3M is assessed as close to the T-90.


T-72B3M tank (left) with T-90A (right) at Alabino field

In short, with the cheap price and the power almost equivalent to the T-90, Vietnam can consider and learn the way that Russia or China are doing, that is, buy a large amount of T-72B3 / B3M. to entrust the backbone of the armored force besides the upgraded T-54/55, to support the main force T-90MS.

If the above plan is implemented, the Army of Vietnam will surely build the first position in the region on both quantity and quality criteria.

https://soha.vn/sau-200-t-90ms-viet-nam-se-mua-so-luong-t-72b3-lon-hon-nhieu-20160810095940863.htm

Not directly about Bangladesh Army but shows possibly what they are thinking?

Also an estimated price of 1.7m for the upgrade alone.

Hopefully Bangladesh got a good deal and is gonna get the T-72B3M variant.
They’ve got 13k tanks in storages... so yeah will be quite cheap but need to negotiate.
 
They’ve got 13k tanks in storages... so yeah will be quite cheap but need to negotiate.

The hull of the T72 is almost the same as the T-90 (Indian Bhishma) and the T-90MS (flat slim turret compared to regular T-90). Very practical with a modern turret like the B3M version which is T-72B3 mod. 2016...:-)

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T-80 is a different beast. In the Chechen war the T-80 got a bad rap for being vulnerable to Chechen urban war tactics. It is not looked upon favorably in the Russian army nowadays AFAIK. Definitely not the Turbine powerpack version.

New Generation Tanks and APC's are way too expensive for Russia (T-14 and T-15 Armata, Bumerang, Terminator etc.) but they are even more advanced in technology and design compared to the latest Leopards and Abrams versions. The top brass in US Army is scrambling to counter the T-14's and T-15's in Russian inventory (if the Russians are able to add them that is, in spite of cost).

My thoughts on this are that any tank that can take an ATGM hit and keep on going without 'cooking' the crew, and has a simply maintainable powerpack (diesel) is great in my book. T-72 B3M checks all these boxes....does not have to have laser wizardry or supercomputers in the tank to survive in the battlefield.
 
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The hull of the T72 is almost the same as the T-90 (Indian Bhishma) and the T-90MS (flat slim turret compared to regular T-90). Very practical with a modern turret like the B3M version which is T-72B3 mod. 2016...:-)

1109px-Alabino05042017-40.jpg


T-80 is a different beast. In the Chechen war the T-80 got a bad rap for being vulnerable to Chechen urban war tactics. It is not looked upon favorably in the Russian army nowadays AFAIK. Definitely not the Turbine powerpack version.

New Generation Tanks and APC's are way too expensive for Russia (T-14 and T-15 Armata, Bumerang, Terminator etc.) but they are even more advanced in technology and design compared to the latest Leopards and Abrams versions. The top brass in US Army is scrambling to counter the T-14's and T-15's in Russian inventory (if the Russians are able to add them that is, in spite of cost).

My thoughts on this are that any tank that can take an ATGM hit and keep on going without 'cooking' the crew, and has a simply maintainable powerpack (diesel) is great in my book. T-72 B3M checks all these boxes....does not have to have laser wizardry or supercomputers in the tank to survive in the battlefield.
I don’t know if the autoLoader situation is different in b3m but if it’s the same base... then we just gotta hope flanks are secured and no one hits the sides.
T90ms is a very good secondary option... Bangladesh army officers evaluated it in the trials in Kuwait.
As for armata, let’s just wait until India gets it or something, with increase in production the price for that too will eventually come down...
 
I don’t know if the autoLoader situation is different in b3m but if it’s the same base... then we just gotta hope flanks are secured and no one hits the sides.
T90ms is a very good secondary option... Bangladesh army officers evaluated it in the trials in Kuwait.
As for armata, let’s just wait until India gets it or something, with increase in production the price for that too will eventually come down...

Yup let's hope so. Armata will be in the same league cost-wise as the Abrams, so they might get Abrams. If Indians eventually get the Abrams (they can get older first or second gen ones - not the SEP or SEP TUSK versions) then it will be an interesting situation. They might at some point, knowing that Arjun is a dud pretty much.
 
Yup let's hope so. Armata will be in the same league cost-wise as the Abrams, so they might get Abrams. If Indians eventually get the Abrams (they can get older first or second gen ones - not the SEP or SEP TUSK versions) then it will be an interesting situation. They might at some point, knowing that Arjun is a dud pretty much.
Our army and abrams? Maybe in 50 years time. Turbines drink tons of fuel

Yup let's hope so. Armata will be in the same league cost-wise as the Abrams, so they might get Abrams. If Indians eventually get the Abrams (they can get older first or second gen ones - not the SEP or SEP TUSK versions) then it will be an interesting situation. They might at some point, knowing that Arjun is a dud pretty much.
Russians also estimated that the cost can be brought down to t90 ms levels if 2000 tanks are ordered at once
 
This kind of T-90 vs Type 15 light tank are pointless cos both belongs to different category of tank.

T90s is a main battle tank(49 tons) while Type 15 is special tailor light tank(35tons) for specific mission.
However, T90 tanks may be good along Pakistan-India border with hard soil, but VT-5 is more suitable for our terrain as a defence against both India and Myanmar. To induct VT-5 would be a good decision by the BA.

There is little scope for BA to operate heavy tanks and our enemy countries also will be unable to do it. Ours is an almost marsh land with hundreds of rivers and canals, and the soil is muddy.
 
This kind of T-90 vs Type 15 light tank are pointless cos both belongs to different category of tank.

T90s is a main battle tank(49 tons) while Type 15 is special tailor light tank(35tons) for specific mission.

There are total defence noobs posting videos in every country, we have our share as well. The guy has zero idea on the role differences between T-90 and Type 15. :-)
 
There are total defence noobs posting videos in every country, we have our share as well. The guy has zero idea on the role differences between T-90 and Type 15. :-)

Precisely, it just like posting comparison of assault rifle vs pistol and then try to claim both are guns.
 
However, T90 tanks may be good along Pakistan-India border with hard soil, but VT-5 is more suitable for our terrain as a defence against both India and Myanmar. To induct VT-5 would be a good decision by the BA.

There is little scope for BA to operate heavy tanks and our enemy countries also will be unable to do it. Ours is an almost marsh land with hundreds of rivers and canals, and the soil is muddy.
Not really. Geographical features of Indonesia, Singapore are much worse than us and yet they operate 70 ton tanks. Operability depends on ground pressure exerted per inch of terrain by the tracks
 

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