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Bangladesh Army likely to buy Russian Tanks

Even Merkava?
What made yiu people think anything made in Israel are gold standard?
These T-90s were built to defend WW3.
what made you think they aren't?
some of our own weapons and sensors have israeli origin... though sourced from elsewhere...
the reason i say "even merkava" is because of the effectiveness and dangers of ATGM tipped with potassium sabot charges.
the only tank left to see is challenger 2 i guess

In the 1971 war the IA sent 36 ton t-55 tanks, but many stopped moving in our irrigated soil. A few came towards Dhaka only after the PA troops already surrendered travelling over paved roads. Except in our northern tip at the Siliguri corridor, and probably in the terrain of Hili in Dinajpur, there is very little practical scope for the movement of heavy tanks. Most of our MBTs are stationed in those areas. Global Firepower states BA has 680 tanks, medium and heavy. It also has 920 units of APCs.

Heavy tanks are unsuitable in the bordering areas, however, these may be suitable as offensive weapons on the terrain surrounding Darjeeling in India, for example. Most of our tanks are medium weight. As such Chinese medium tanks may be suitable to replace the old ones.
global firepower isn't a reputable source anymore.
also light or heavy... the tanks that got bogged down were attempted to be driven in paddy field during the mansoon season... who does that?
our geography has changed a lot since 71... rivers have dried up... farming lands have also reduced comparitively... tanks ofc won't be ideal to be stationed at the borders but at high grounds like in rajshahi... dhaka... sylet... these are the place to operate em. the south side will be better left off with APCs
 
what made you think they aren't?
some of our own weapons and sensors have israeli origin... though sourced from elsewhere...
the reason i say "even merkava" is because of the effectiveness and dangers of ATGM tipped with potassium sabot charges.
the only tank left to see is challenger 2 i guess


global firepower isn't a reputable source anymore.
also light or heavy... the tanks that got bogged down were attempted to be driven in paddy field during the mansoon season... who does that?
our geography has changed a lot since 71... rivers have dried up... farming lands have also reduced comparitively... tanks ofc won't be ideal to be stationed at the borders but at high grounds like in rajshahi... dhaka... sylet... these are the place to operate em. the south side will be better left off with APCs
How many customers merkava have? There are reasons, russian tanks are all around the world. Why would India buys T-90 instead of Merkava? It is only after getting smacked by hizbullah israeli put Active protection system Iron Fist in their tanks whereas Soviets put them on 50 years ago. Now they are marketing it in a way that they are the inventor of the system.
 
How many customers merkava have? There are reasons, russian tanks are all around the world. Why would India buys T-90 instead of Merkava? It is only after getting smacked by hizbullah israeli put Active protection system Iron Fist in their tanks whereas Soviets put them on 50 years ago. Now they are marketing it in a way that they are the inventor of the system.
well... duh! but doesn't mean it's outright bad...
oh they don't sell those
i would hop in a t-90 any day over merkava btw
 
If BD want light wight tank, you shall ask for the

The newly Light weight tank is to replace old Type 59.

Note the excerpts below about the Type-59 that was already upgraded by the BA with 125mm main gun:

"Bangladesh[edit]
Bangladesh Army's Type-59 are being upgraded to Type-59BD locally with Chinese assistance. 174 units are being upgraded in First batch.
According to specialists the Type59BD upgrade is superior to the Pakistani Al Zarrar".

I hope, China will fit the new version with a 1200hp engine instead of the present 730hp in the type-59. Russian made cannot be trusted only because they just do not care about the after service. Russian tanks should not be bought because these heavy tanks are unfit in the border wetland and spare parts cannot be manufactured locally as Russians may not be willing to share their technology. Russians will certainly not send the parts in case of a tension in the border.

However, the Chinese made MBT-2000 was also unable to gain the BA confidence. I wonder, if its heavy 46t/unit heavy weight is the reason. A tank must run fast and should have strong fire power. But, with a 1,200 hp engine and the power/weight ratio @ 26hp/ton, this tank may not be that fast, it may have a strong fire power, though. It may be slow and a sitting duck in the BD wetland in times of emergency.
 
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Note the excerpts below about the Type-59 that was already upgraded by the BA with 125mm main gun:

"Bangladesh[edit]
Bangladesh Army's Type-59 are being upgraded to Type-59BD locally with Chinese assistance. 174 units are being upgraded in First batch.
According to specialists the Type59BD upgrade is superior to the Pakistani Al Zarrar".

I hope, China will fit the new version with a 1200hp engine instead of the present 730hp in the type-59. Russian made cannot be trusted only because they just do not care about the after service. Russian tanks should not be bought because these heavy tanks are unfit in the border wetland and spare parts cannot be manufactured locally as Russians may not be willing to share their technology. Russians will certainly not send the parts in case of a tension in the border.

However, the Chinese made MBT-2000 was also unable to gain the BA confidence. I wonder, if its heavy 46t/unit heavy weight is the reason. A tank must run fast and should have strong fire power. But, with a 1,200 hp engine and the power/weight ratio @ 26hp/ton, this tank may not be that fast, it may have a strong fire power, though. It may be slow and a sitting duck in the BD wetland in times of emergency.
Those MBT 2000 will update to 1500HP power package same as that used on T99A2. China can have 120mm smooth bore gun and 1200HP engine on our new light weight Tank, but it will increase the weight of the tank to some 40 tons . Keep in mind that if you wanna enough armor protection and you wanna control the weight of the light tank, you must in some extent sacrifice the fire power. China may induct thousand new light tanks to replace type 59 and 62. For army, they hope the light tank can run faster. Upgrading Type 59 to type59 BD is a very good choice, the new 125 smooth bore gun will give it a strong fire power against T90s( Max 900mm RHA penetration by depleted uranium APFSDS) . China only fit 900HP disel engine on new light weight tank, cause we can't afford to install 1200 HP engine in large quantity .
 
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How many customers merkava have? There are reasons, russian tanks are all around the world. Why would India buys T-90 instead of Merkava? It is only after getting smacked by hizbullah israeli put Active protection system Iron Fist in their tanks whereas Soviets put them on 50 years ago. Now they are marketing it in a way that they are the inventor of the system.
Comparing Drozd to Iron Fist or Trophy is like comparing Airacomet fighter jet to Raptor.
5 Merkava tanks were destroyed in Lebanon, 2 of which were Mark 4.
One was destroyed by massive IED, and one by multiple hits.
Neither of the Merkava's possessed APS since it wasn't available at the time.
 
You guys forgot to mention Ground Pressure or kgf/c(square). As this is more important characteristics than Power/Weight Ratio of a tank's movability on a weak soil. T90's is approx. 0.93kg/c which is not good. Light tanks have about 0.70-0.80 kg/c. Indian Arjun1 is 0.85 kg/c only! They increased the size of the tank along with the width of track. Chicky! Do anybody know the kg/c of Al Khalid1/ Mbt 2000?
 
You guys forgot to mention Ground Pressure or kgf/c(square). As this is more important characteristics than Power/Weight Ratio of a tank's movability on a weak soil. T90's is approx. 0.93kg/c which is not good. Light tanks have about 0.70-0.80 kg/c. Indian Arjun1 is 0.85 kg/c only! They increased the size of the tank along with the width of track. Chicky! Do anybody know the kg/c of Al Khalid1/ Mbt 2000?
0.8163kg/c, figure for Chinese MBT2000.
 
Note the excerpts below about the Type-59 that was already upgraded by the BA with 125mm main gun:

"Bangladesh[edit]
Bangladesh Army's Type-59 are being upgraded to Type-59BD locally with Chinese assistance. 174 units are being upgraded in First batch.
According to specialists the Type59BD upgrade is superior to the Pakistani Al Zarrar".

I hope, China will fit the new version with a 1200hp engine instead of the present 730hp in the type-59. Russian made cannot be trusted only because they just do not care about the after service. Russian tanks should not be bought because these heavy tanks are unfit in the border wetland and spare parts cannot be manufactured locally as Russians may not be willing to share their technology. Russians will certainly not send the parts in case of a tension in the border.

However, the Chinese made MBT-2000 was also unable to gain the BA confidence. I wonder, if its heavy 46t/unit heavy weight is the reason. A tank must run fast and should have strong fire power. But, with a 1,200 hp engine and the power/weight ratio @ 26hp/ton, this tank may not be that fast, it may have a strong fire power, though. It may be slow and a sitting duck in the BD wetland in times of emergency.
first of all... have you checked in the current weight of type 59? it's the same as a t-90 with the new gun, turret and autoloader.

second the mbt-2000 rumor is bullocks... it can opearate on 60km/h max all terrain. type-90 does 70km/h
the chinese third gen armor is basically kontakt 5. there is nothing chinese about it but nonetheless very good armor.

1200hp engine that ukraine and russia makes is too big for type-59 chassis. china's indeginous 1200hp is going under testing... and still very much in dev phase...

You guys forgot to mention Ground Pressure or kgf/c(square). As this is more important characteristics than Power/Weight Ratio of a tank's movability on a weak soil. T90's is approx. 0.93kg/c which is not good. Light tanks have about 0.70-0.80 kg/c. Indian Arjun1 is 0.85 kg/c only! They increased the size of the tank along with the width of track. Chicky! Do anybody know the kg/c of Al Khalid1/ Mbt 2000?
what's the co relation of that to hp/t in mbt 2000 vs t-90?
 
In the 1971 war the IA sent 36 ton t-55 tanks, but many stopped moving in our irrigated soil. A few came towards Dhaka only after the PA troops already surrendered travelling over paved roads. Except in our northern tip at the Siliguri corridor, and probably in the terrain of Hili in Dinajpur, there is very little practical scope for the movement of heavy tanks. Most of our MBTs are stationed in those areas. Global Firepower states BA has 680 tanks, medium and heavy. It also has 920 units of APCs.

Heavy tanks are unsuitable in the bordering areas, however, these may be suitable as offensive weapons on the terrain surrounding Darjeeling in India, for example. Most of our tanks are medium weight. As such Chinese medium tanks may be suitable to replace the old ones.

Brother @wanglaokan is talking about the ZTQ light tank (Export designation VT5).

Specs:
Country of origin -China
Entered service -?
Crew -3 men
Dimensions and weight
Weight -33 - 36 t
Length (gun forward) -9.2 m
Hull length ~ 7.5 m
Width -3.3 m
Height -2.5 m
Armament
Main gun -105 mm rifled
ATGW -?
Machine guns -1 x 7.62 mm, 1 x 12.7 mm
Grenade launcher -1 x 40 mm
Elevation range -?
Traverse range -360 degrees
Ammunition load
Main gun -38 rounds
Machine guns -?
Mobility
Engine -diesel
Engine power -1 000 hp
Maximum road speed -70 km/h
Range450 km
Maneuverability
Gradient -60%
Side slope -30%
Vertical step -0.85 m
Trench ~ 2.5 m
Fording -1.1 m
Fording (with preparation) -?

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Recently a new light tank appeared in China. Some sources refer it as ZTQ-105, however it seems that it is not its actual name. First pictures of the new tank appeared back in 2010. The whole development project was kept in secrecy and for a long time were no official comments regarding this new tank. Since 2010 a number of different prototypes were observed. The new tank has an entirely new design. It is possible that is was developed specially for the airborne forces. It could also become a successor to the Type 62 light tank, that was retired from the Chinese army without proper replacement in 2011. Chinese requirement could be for at least 300 new light tanks. An export version of this new light tank, the VT5, was first publicly revealed in 2016. It is being offered for various customers.

The new tank weights around 33-36 t, depending on armor configuration. Mobility and rapid redeployment is the key factor of this new combat vehicle. It is intended mainly for reconnaissance and infantry support operations. It can be airdropped and operate in areas, such as mountains, jungles and river regions, that are not accessible to heavier main battle tanks, such as the Type 96 and Type 99.

This tank has a welded hull and turret. Add-on modular armor kit is fitted for a higher level of protection. It can be either passive composite armor of explosive reactive armor. Various armor configurations were observed. Some areas of the hull and turret can be covered with cage armor, that provides protection against anti-tank rockets and anti-tank guided missiles.

This tank has also got a passive protection system with a laser detector. It triggers smoke grenade dischargers once the tank is illuminated by a laser beam. This system reduces the chance of being hit by anti-tank missiles with laser guidance.

This new Chinese tank is armed with a fully-stabilized 105 mm rifled gun. It is compatible with all standard NATO 105 mm tank ammunition. The gun it has got an automatic bustle-mounted ammunition loading system, which allowed to reduce the crew to 3 men. Also smaller crew allowed to reduce overall dimension of the tank, making it a smaller target on the battlefield. The new light tank has got an effective firing range of 3 km. With APFSDS round can penetrate up to 500 mm of rolled homogenous armor. Such penetration capabilities are not sufficient to defeat modern main battle tanks over the front arc. However this tank can also launch 105 mm anti-tank guided missiles in the same manner as ordinary munitions. These extend the effective range to up to 5 km and hit probability of over 90% against stationary targets. Furthermore the missiles have tandem HEAT warheads and pose serious threat to main battle tanks, and can even target low-flying helicopters. Also there are ordinary HEAT and HE rounds for use against light armored vehicles, buildings and field fortifications.

A total of 38 rounds and missiles are carried for the main gun. Spent cases are automatically ejected via a hatch at the rear of the turret.

Secondary armament consists of a remotely-controlled weapon station, armed with a 12.7 mm machine gun and 40 mm automatic grenade launcher. There is also a coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun.

The new Chinese light tank has got a modern fire control system. It includes laser rangefinder, ballistic computer, wind sensor, gunner's thermal sight and commander's panoramic sight with thermal vision. Thermal vision allows to engage targets at night and during adverse weather conditions.

This light tank has got a hunter-killer engagement capability, which is present on all modern main battle tanks. Commander uses his panoramic sight to search for targets. Once the target is selected the gun is laid on the target automatically and the gunner completes al the aiming and firing process. During that time commander looks for the next target.

The tank is fitted with a navigation, satellite communication and battlefield management systems.

The tank is operated by a crew of 3, including commander, gunner, and driver. Crew seating is standard for modern tanks. The driver is seated at the center of the hull, though on at least one prototype driver's position was offset to the left. Commander and gunner are seated in the turret.

This new Chinese tank is powered by a turbocharged diesel engine, developing 1 000 hp. The engine is mounted at the rear of the hull. It is mated to a fully-automatic transmission. It has got a hudropneumatic suspension with adjustable ground clearance. The tank comes with steel tracks, that can be optionally fitted with rubber pads.

Due to its light weight the new tank is much more mobile than heavier main battle tanks. Also it can operate at high altitudes, where the air becomes thin and the engines start to loose power. For example the Indian T-72 andT-90 main battle tanks can not go high into the mountains. So in the mountains the new Chinese tank should not encounter any heavily-armored opponents. Maximum range on fuel is 450 km, though it can be extended by mounting external fuel tanks.

This new tank is air transportable. It can be airlifted by military cargo aircraft. Also this tank can be paradropped. Other airborne tanks are the US M8 Buford, which did not entered service and the Russian Sprut-SD which is in service in small numbers. Development of this new light tank shows the high level of resources China is devoting towards its rapid deployment and offensive capabilities.

The tank is not amphibious. It is worth noting that Chinese marines operate a ZBD-2000 amphibious light tank, that was specially designed for high-speed swimming and is also armed with a 105 mm gun. Though both of these tanks are totally different. There were no intentions to simplify servicing and maintenance by using interchangeable components.

It is likely that a number of variants, such as armored recovery vehicle, will emerge over time.

Variants

VT5 is an export version. It was first publicly revealed in 2016 and is being proposed for possible customers.

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The Chinese VT5 lightweight MBT has a combat weight of between 33 and 36 tonnes depending on its armor package. It is powered by a 1,000 hp diesel engine.

Chinese marines operating a ZBD-2000 amphibious light tank.
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This light tank maybe more appropriate to fight in our water-bound landscape.

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SPECS:

Entered service 2006
Crew 4 men
Troops at least 4 men
Dimensions and weight
Weight ?
Length (gun forward) ?
Hull length ?
Width ?
Height ?
Armament
Main gun 105-mm rifled
ATGM ?
Machine guns 1 x 7.62-mm, 1 x 12.7-mm
Elevation range ?
Traverse range 360 degrees
Ammunition load
Main gun ?
ATGW ?
Machine guns ?
Mobility
Engine diesel
Engine power 590 hp on land / 1 580 hp on water
Maximum road speed 65 km/h
Amphibious speed on water 25 km/h
Range ~ 500 km
Maneuverability
Gradient 60%
Side slope 30%
Vertical step ~ 0.7 m
Trench ~ 2 m
Fording Amphibious

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The ZBD 2000 amphibious light tank was revealed in 2006 and is already in service with the PLA Marine Corps. This armored vehicle is sometimes referred as the ZLT05 or ZTD05. It is a successor to the Type 63A amphibious light tank. It is a variant of the ZBD 2000 amphibious IFV. Development of this new high-speed amphibious vehicle family shows the high level of resources China is devoting towards the amphibious assault capabilities. This vehicle is being proposed for export customers. Its export designation is VN16. It seems that this amphibious light tank has been exported to Venezuela.

The ZBD 2000 is similar to the US Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle in concept, though fitted with heavier armor protection. Vehicle has a large welded hull, specially designed for high-speed swimming.

Vehicle is armed with a fully-stabilized 105-mm rifled gun. It is the same gun, found of the Type 63A. It has effective range of over 2 000 m against armored targets. It is speculated, that its HEAT round penetrates between 460 and 500 mm of steel armor. This gun is loaded manually. It also fires APFSDS, HE rounds and gun-launched anti-tank guided missiles. These laser-guided missiles were developed from the Russian 9M117 Bastion technology and are fired in the same manner as ordinary projectiles. Maximum range is 4 - 5 km and hit probability is 90% against static targets. These missiles can also target low flying helicopters. The ZBD 2000 can fire both ordinary rounds and anti-tank guided missiles while swimming.

Secondary armament consists of coaxial 7.62-mm machine gun and another 12.7-mm MG, mounted on top of the roof.

The ZBD 2000 has a crew of four and provides accommodation for at least four troops. Troops dismount through the rear exit door.

The ZBD 2000 light tank uses the same hull as the infantry fighting vehicle. It is claimed, that front turret armor of this light tank withstands 25-mm armor-piercing rounds at 1 000 m range. All-round protection is against 7.62-mm armor-piercing rounds.

Engine is located at the front of the planning hull. It develops 590 hp on land and 1 580 hp on water. Vehicle has a hydraulically-activated bow, transom flaps and is propelled on water by two waterjets. When actuated, bow and transom flaps form a planning surface together with the bottom of the hull. This light tank is planning on water, rather than pushing through.

The ZBD 2000 has a maximum amphibious speed on water of 25 km/h. Vehicle can travel 10 km or more at sea. It may not reach the swimming performance of the US EFV however it is considerable improvement over US AAV7. Eventually the US Marine Corps cancelled the EFV program. Currently China is the only country to operate such unique high-speed amphibious tank.
 

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