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Bangladesh and Pakistan Comparison in 2012

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Lavish praise for Bangladesh and scolding for Pakistan mark the anniversary of the painful events leading up to the breakup of Pakistan in December 1971. This annual ritual is usually led by writers from Pakistan's arch-rival India. A few Bangladeshi nationalists and disgruntled Pakistanis join in as well. Here are a few samples of it:

1. Sadanand Dhume, Wall Street Journal

"Not long ago, when you thought of a South Asian country ravaged by floods, governed by bumblers and apparently teetering on the brink of chaos, it wasn't Pakistan that came to mind. That distinction belonged to Bangladesh.....Bangladesh has much to be proud of. Its economy has grown at nearly 6% a year over the past three years. The country exported $12.3 billion worth of garments last year, making it fourth in the world behind China, the EU and Turkey..... Nearly 40 years ago, only the most reckless optimist would have bet on flood-prone, war-ravaged Bangladesh over relatively stable and prosperous Pakistan. But with a higher growth rate, a lower birth rate, and a more internationally competitive economy, yesterday's basket case may have the last laugh."

2. Akbar Ali Khan, Bangladesh's Daily Star

"Per capita income in West Pakistan in 1950 was only four per cent higher than that of East Pakistan. In 1970 per capita income in West Pakistan exceeded that of East Pakistan by 61 percent. The increase in disparity of two wings reinforced the secessionist argument that West Pakistan was becoming richer at the expense of East Pakistan....annual per capita income growth in Bangladesh since 1972 exceeded almost every year total per capita income growth in East Pakistan in twenty years. This clearly suggests that political independence provided much more conducive environment for growth in Bangladesh than united Pakistani. . Though economic growth in East Pakistan was revived during Ayub Khan's so-called decade of reforms, growth rate in erstwhile East Pakistan was much lower than that of West Pakistan."

3. S. Akbar Zaidi, Pakistan's Daily Dawn

"In the world of development achievements and democratic and secular credentials, it is Bangladesh today which offers a rather sad comment on Pakistan`s numerous failed promises. Bangladesh is one of the six countries in Asia and Africa which has been feted for its progress towards achieving its Millennium Development Goals, a set of targets that seek to eradicate extreme poverty and boost health, education and the status of women worldwide by 2015....The West Pakistani elite which lived off the resources of East Pakistan for 25 years and was happy to see the basket case East Pakistan become Bangladesh, needs to seriously come to terms with its continuing hubris and past. The least that the civilian and military Pakistani elite can do is to seek forgiveness for the crimes committed four decades ago, and to begin to learn how basket cases and failed states can become successful democratic, developmental and secular states."


Let's now assess how Bangladesh and Pakistan have performed since 1971 by looking at some key indicators like per capita income, upward mobility and consumption of energy and cement in the two countries.


Per Capita Income:

Economic gap between East and West Pakistan in 1960s is often cited as a key reason for the secessionist movement led by Shaikh Mujib's Awami League and the creation of Bangladesh in 1971. This disparity has grown over the last 40 years, and the per capita income in Pakistan now stands at more than twice Bangladesh's in 2012 in nominal dollar terms, higher than 1.6 as claimed by Akbar Ali Khan in 1971.

Here are some figures from Economist magazine's EIU 2013:

Bangladesh GDP per head: $695 (PPP: $1,830)

Pakistan GDP per head: $1,410 (PPP: $2,960)

Pakistan-Bangladesh GDP per head Ratio: 2.03 ( PPP: 1.62)

Upward Economic Mobility:

Pakistan has continued to offer much greater upward economic and social mobility to its citizens than Bangladesh and India over the last two decades. Since 1990, Pakistan's middle class had expanded by 36.5%, India's by only 12.8% and Bangladesh's by just 8.3%, according to an ADB report titled "Asia's Emerging Middle Class: Past, Present And Future.

Asian+Middle+Class.jpg


Per Capita Energy Consumption:

Energy consumption in this day and age generally indicates a nation's level of industrialization, productivity and standards of living. Going by this yardstick, Pakistan's 14 million BTUs per capita consumption is well ahead of Bangladesh's 6 million BTUs per capita as estimated by US Energy Information Administration for 2009.


Per Capita Cement Consumption:


Cement use is an important barometer of national economic activity in developing countries. Pakistan's cement consumption of 132 Kg per capita is significantly higher than Bangladesh's 85 Kg per person.

Job Growth:

Pakistan's employment growth has been the highest in South Asia region since 2000, followed by Nepal, Bangladesh, India, and Sri Lanka in that order, according to a recent World Bank report titled "More and Better Jobs in South Asia".

South%2BAsia%2BEmployment.jpg


Total employment in South Asia (excluding Afghanistan and Bhutan) rose from 473 million in 2000 to 568 million in 2010, creating an average of just under 800,000 new jobs a month. In all countries except Maldives and Sri Lanka, the largest share of the employed are the low‐end self-employed.

Other Facts:

Here are a few other relevant data points in comparing Bangladesh and Pakistan:

1. Bangladesh is still categorized by the World Bank among low income and least developed countries of the world, while Pakistan is a middle income country and classified well above the list of least developed countries of the world.

Bangladesh%2BPoverty.jpg


2. Bangladesh is ranked as 11th poorest country in the world by the World Bank in terms of the percentage of population living on $1.25 or less a day. Neighboring India is the 14th poorest on this list, while Pakistan does not show up on it. The rest of the nations on this list are all in sub-Saharan Africa.

3. In 1947, East Pakistan started with a lower economic base than West Pakistan, and the loss of its Hindu Bengali business elite in 1947 left it worse off. It also didn't have the benefit of the large number of Muslim businessmen who migrated to West Pakistan, particularly Karachi, after partition of India in 1947.

4. Pakistani economist Dr. Ishrat Husain explains it well when he says that "although East Pakistan benefited from Ayub’s economic reforms in 1960s, the fact that these benefits were perceived as a dispensation from a quasi-colonial military regime to its colony—East Pakistan—proved to be lethal."

It must, however, be acknowledged that Bangladeshi economy has been outperforming Pakistan's in the last few years, particularly since President Musharraf's departure in 2008. Bangladesh has also made significant strides on various social indicators and it now ranks just one notch below Pakistan on human development index 2011. Bangladesh's family planning efforts have been remarkably successful in lowering the fertility rate of Bangladeshi women, an area where Pakistan significantly lags behind the rest of South Asia.

Haq's Musings: Comparing Bangladesh With Pakistan in 2012

Here's a video about Pakistan:

 
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This annual ritual is usually led by writers from Pakistan's arch-rival India. A few Bangladeshi nationalists and disgruntled Pakistanis join in as well.

There are people who want to prolong the animosity and portray the relationship between Pakistan and Bangladesh as adversarial. However, most Pakistanis and Bangladeshis have moved on and are looking to the future.

Best of luck to both Pakistan and Bangladesh: one does not begrudge a brother his success.
 
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Lavish praise for Bangladesh and scolding for Pakistan mark the anniversary of the painful events leading up to the breakup of Pakistan in December 1971. This annual ritual is usually led by writers from Pakistan's arch-rival India. A few Bangladeshi nationalists and disgruntled Pakistanis join in as well. Here are a few samples of it:

1. Sadanand Dhume, Wall Street Journal

"Not long ago, when you thought of a South Asian country ravaged by floods, governed by bumblers and apparently teetering on the brink of chaos, it wasn't Pakistan that came to mind. That distinction belonged to Bangladesh.....Bangladesh has much to be proud of. Its economy has grown at nearly 6% a year over the past three years. The country exported $12.3 billion worth of garments last year, making it fourth in the world behind China, the EU and Turkey..... Nearly 40 years ago, only the most reckless optimist would have bet on flood-prone, war-ravaged Bangladesh over relatively stable and prosperous Pakistan. But with a higher growth rate, a lower birth rate, and a more internationally competitive economy, yesterday's basket case may have the last laugh."

2. Akbar Ali Khan, Bangladesh's Daily Star

"Per capita income in West Pakistan in 1950 was only four per cent higher than that of East Pakistan. In 1970 per capita income in West Pakistan exceeded that of East Pakistan by 61 percent. The increase in disparity of two wings reinforced the secessionist argument that West Pakistan was becoming richer at the expense of East Pakistan....annual per capita income growth in Bangladesh since 1972 exceeded almost every year total per capita income growth in East Pakistan in twenty years. This clearly suggests that political independence provided much more conducive environment for growth in Bangladesh than united Pakistani. . Though economic growth in East Pakistan was revived during Ayub Khan's so-called decade of reforms, growth rate in erstwhile East Pakistan was much lower than that of West Pakistan."

3. S. Akbar Zaidi, Pakistan's Daily Dawn

"In the world of development achievements and democratic and secular credentials, it is Bangladesh today which offers a rather sad comment on Pakistan`s numerous failed promises. Bangladesh is one of the six countries in Asia and Africa which has been feted for its progress towards achieving its Millennium Development Goals, a set of targets that seek to eradicate extreme poverty and boost health, education and the status of women worldwide by 2015....The West Pakistani elite which lived off the resources of East Pakistan for 25 years and was happy to see the basket case East Pakistan become Bangladesh, needs to seriously come to terms with its continuing hubris and past. The least that the civilian and military Pakistani elite can do is to seek forgiveness for the crimes committed four decades ago, and to begin to learn how basket cases and failed states can become successful democratic, developmental and secular states."


Let's now assess how Bangladesh and Pakistan have performed since 1971 by looking at some key indicators like per capita income, upward mobility and consumption of energy and cement in the two countries.


Per Capita Income:

Economic gap between East and West Pakistan in 1960s is often cited as a key reason for the secessionist movement led by Shaikh Mujib's Awami League and the creation of Bangladesh in 1971. This disparity has grown over the last 40 years, and the per capita income in Pakistan now stands at more than twice Bangladesh's in 2012 in nominal dollar terms, higher than 1.6 as claimed by Akbar Ali Khan in 1971.

Here are some figures from Economist magazine's EIU 2013:

Bangladesh GDP per head: $695 (PPP: $1,830)

Pakistan GDP per head: $1,410 (PPP: $2,960)

Pakistan-Bangladesh GDP per head Ratio: 2.03 ( PPP: 1.62)

Upward Economic Mobility:

Pakistan has continued to offer much greater upward economic and social mobility to its citizens than Bangladesh and India over the last two decades. Since 1990, Pakistan's middle class had expanded by 36.5%, India's by only 12.8% and Bangladesh's by just 8.3%, according to an ADB report titled "Asia's Emerging Middle Class: Past, Present And Future.

Asian+Middle+Class.jpg


Per Capita Energy Consumption:

Energy consumption in this day and age generally indicates a nation's level of industrialization, productivity and standards of living. Going by this yardstick, Pakistan's 14 million BTUs per capita consumption is well ahead of Bangladesh's 6 million BTUs per capita as estimated by US Energy Information Administration for 2009.


Per Capita Cement Consumption:


Cement use is an important barometer of national economic activity in developing countries. Pakistan's cement consumption of 132 Kg per capita is significantly higher than Bangladesh's 85 Kg per person.

Job Growth:

Pakistan's employment growth has been the highest in South Asia region since 2000, followed by Nepal, Bangladesh, India, and Sri Lanka in that order, according to a recent World Bank report titled "More and Better Jobs in South Asia".

South%2BAsia%2BEmployment.jpg


Total employment in South Asia (excluding Afghanistan and Bhutan) rose from 473 million in 2000 to 568 million in 2010, creating an average of just under 800,000 new jobs a month. In all countries except Maldives and Sri Lanka, the largest share of the employed are the low‐end self-employed.

Other Facts:

Here are a few other relevant data points in comparing Bangladesh and Pakistan:

1. Bangladesh is still categorized by the World Bank among low income and least developed countries of the world, while Pakistan is a middle income country and classified well above the list of least developed countries of the world.

Bangladesh%2BPoverty.jpg


2. Bangladesh is ranked as 11th poorest country in the world by the World Bank in terms of the percentage of population living on $1.25 or less a day. Neighboring India is the 14th poorest on this list, while Pakistan does not show up on it. The rest of the nations on this list are all in sub-Saharan Africa.

3. In 1947, East Pakistan started with a lower economic base than West Pakistan, and the loss of its Hindu Bengali business elite in 1947 left it worse off. It also didn't have the benefit of the large number of Muslim businessmen who migrated to West Pakistan, particularly Karachi, after partition of India in 1947.

4. Pakistani economist Dr. Ishrat Husain explains it well when he says that "although East Pakistan benefited from Ayub’s economic reforms in 1960s, the fact that these benefits were perceived as a dispensation from a quasi-colonial military regime to its colony—East Pakistan—proved to be lethal."

It must, however, be acknowledged that Bangladeshi economy has been outperforming Pakistan's in the last few years, particularly since President Musharraf's departure in 2008. Bangladesh has also made significant strides on various social indicators and it now ranks just one notch below Pakistan on human development index 2011. Bangladesh's family planning efforts have been remarkably successful in lowering the fertility rate of Bangladeshi women, an area where Pakistan significantly lags behind the rest of South Asia.

Haq's Musings: Comparing Bangladesh With Pakistan in 2012

Your data for the 1.25 $ per capita income poverty rate is old . It is from a survey done in 2005 . Try to keep yourself updated , if you want to be considered credible .

This is the latest report,

Poverty headcount ratio at $1.25 a day (PPP) (% of population) | Data | Table

Also development can seldom ever be measured by only Income . HDI is a much better index that talks about overall development of a human being in a society.

In HDI , Pakistan is listed as a low HDI country along with Bangladesh . Both countries need to do better here . Pakistan is just one position above Bangladesh , not much difference.

But with Bangladesh's growth rate being higher than Pakistan's , it may overtake Pakistan soon in HDI .
 
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During Musharaff's time Pakistani growth rate was pretty high, but once pee pee pee government came in it plummeted.
What this means is that our economy is doing poorly simply due to a bad government, and not some fundamental flaw in our system. This crappy government only has about 6 more months left in office and they will be voted out. After the elections we should get a much better government which can once again raise our growth rate.
 
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I could argue that we've hosted the largest refugee population for nearly 3 decades & the largest population of IDPs for nearly 1. I could argue that we're fighting an insurgency in Balochistan. I could argue that the fall-out of the US led War On Terror has affected Pakistan the most with our streets drenched in blood because of a vicious militancy raging on throughout the country. I could argue that we've been sanctioned for an entire decade before '01 & before that in the '80s. I could argue that we find ourselves in a brutal military dynamic with a neighbor 4-5 times our size with an economy 10 times our size, an army 3 times our size, a navy 10 times our size & an airforce perhaps 4-5 times our size & with ample bad blood between us. I could argue that we've got a neighbor like Afghanistan to the West which incidentally was the only country in the world which opposed our inclusion in the UN in '48, attacked us, in Bajaur, in the '50s under the guise of Pashtunistan, refuses to recognize the International Border between us & not only hosts but gives visas to the ones fighting us. I could argue that we've managed to end up with the most corrupt Government in the history of Pakistan who has managed to reverse all the economic gains made by the previous government (the economy was growing at a rate between 6-7% p.a pre '08) & has clocked up more foreign debt in their 5 years in Government than the past 60 years of our existence combined.

But why should I or any Pakistani give a wooden nickle about where does Pakistan stand with respect to Bangladesh ? That boat has sailed - '71 was a blessing in disguise !
 
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Your data for the 1.25 $ per capita income poverty rate is old . It is from a survey done in 2005 . Try to keep yourself updated , if you want to be considered credible .

This is the latest report,

Poverty headcount ratio at $1.25 a day (PPP) (% of population) | Data | Table

Also development can seldom ever be measured by only Income . HDI is a much better index that talks about overall development of a human being in a society.

In HDI , Pakistan is listed as a low HDI country along with Bangladesh . Both countries need to do better here . Pakistan is just one position above Bangladesh , not much difference.

But with Bangladesh's growth rate being higher than Pakistan's , it may overtake Pakistan soon in HDI .

As per your source Bangladesh has moved to 4 from 11 with 43.3%
 
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As per your source Bangladesh has moved to 4 from 11 with 43.3%

Whatever it is , my point was that income poverty can't be the only criteria for judging poverty or development in a country.

Secondly , Mr Haq should use latest figures rather than old 2005 figures to prove his point otherwise , it will put his credibility into question.
 
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Don't know what Pakistanis think of BD, but don't post articles from Daily farting star. Its Forgien(india) funded outlet, that doesn't leave a stone unturned to show PAK and any muslim country in a bad light.

But having said that, I wish PAK a bright future and Inshallah U guys will overcome your current US imposed WOT. Your political environment is a billion times better than current BD ruled by dacoit BAL fagots.
 
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this article is from a blog written by a loser who manipulates and alters facts. why did u post it?
 
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Where were the good old days when we came here to discuss Indo-Pakistan rivalry? BD you stole Pakistan's cheese. Indians lets move on China :cheesy:
 
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Don't know what Pakistanis think of BD, but don't post articles from Daily farting star. Its Forgien(india) funded outlet, that doesn't leave a stone unturned to show PAK and any muslim country in a bad light.

But having said that, I wish PAK a bright future and Inshallah U guys will overcome your current US imposed WOT. Your political environment is a billion times better than current BD ruled by dacoit BAL fagots.

Hope BD will also get same type of government like pakistan
 
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Hope BD will also get same type of government like pakistan

I was hoping that a pakistani will reply my post since it only concerns Pakistanis. I know the type of gov ruling my country and I know the type of terrorist they are. Pakistanis also knows the same about their country. Why the hell is an Indian shedding crocodile tears for BD.:hitwall:
This shows the kind of love affair Indians have with awami fagots.

P.S: A zardari led PPP type gov will be trillion types better than the type of dacoit gov we have. But inshallah we won't be any dacoit, but a pro-BD BNP/JI lead 18 party alliance next time. Inshallah if Allah wills. :cheers:
 
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So, You are not happy with development of BD

He is just showing his "concern". He believes that the current "secular" BAL exttemist ruling BD, that has already given in lots to India, is good for us. He is lecturing me about my country. Doesn't take rocket science to know the kind of love they have for us. :)
 
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