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Yah all irrelevant sort of things I bet...and probably the only exposure BAF gets to some non-rusted hardware. No one is doing major joint tactics training with BAF, because no one cares. If they are show me the link or a video (say something on the level of Anatolian Eagle)...all I see recently is some USAF-BAF exercise with parachute drops from a C-130. Does BAF even send its aircraft overseas to take part in anything? Does it get any invitation to anything that actually matters?



The only one sided slaughter that has happened in South Asia in recent times was in 1971...with your lot often saying 3 million of you got butchered by your beloved PA. Maybe we should have let that go on for a few more years so that fewer ungrateful dummies like you would exist (either sanitised by PA or the even greater eventual backlash from Bengalis).

Its good to see AL is hanging you islamist fanatic PA-loving war traitor types frequently. No wonder you are hiding in Canada.

This is the best sort of video your Airforce can put out of its "exercises":


:omghaha:



Now compare to:





...and it is no surprise you have soiled your lungi :p:

It is actually quite demeaning to compare even just one wing of our AF to your entire 4th rate banana republic AF.

I mean BAF cannot do any kind of significant major strategic maneuver training without running out of airspace. Maybe you should try get India to help in that :D
If Bangladesh gets attacked by india,Pakistan will try to get thier revenge.Same with Nepal and China is just waiting...for an excuse to take over india.You indians are screwd:rofl::rolf:
 
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If Bangladesh gets attacked by india,Pakistan will try to get thier revenge.

try is the operative word....and that too is a big maybe. They have no big love for you "traitors". :P

Same with Nepal and China is just waiting

Nepal has an airforce? You do realise their top general is also the honorary top general of Indian army and vice versa?

And China? Yes just like China helped Pakistan in 1971 I suppose :D....not to mention Kargil. You really think either of them (Pak/China) are going to risk a nuclear war over swampy overpopulated Bong-land?

No one is coming to your aid in any such war....so don't start anything and follow the high level orders we give you....BAL or BNP....otherwise we will blitzkrieg you within a day or two if you decide to make relations that bad or try start a conflict....and the result will make PA performance in East Bengal seem quite good in comparison.

Stay in our good books and you have nothing to worry about in the first place....we do not even need to go into such war scenarios and projections.

You are better off comparing yourselves to Myanmar Air Force....instead of making stupid assertions like "1 squadron of hypothetical Su-30s is enough to handle Indian Air Force".

You do realise that such a Su-30 purchase has to be vetted by India in the first place? Or Russia will simply tell you to sod off if we say no.

Thats the level of respect and importance of BAF in world geopolitics.

Now let this thread get back to posting pictures of the few planes you have in flying condition and hypothetical acquisition plans of less than what 1 wing of Indian AF has already committed to.
 
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The reality:

http://nationalinter...ce-13892?page=2






As other nations around the region are expanding their capabilities in the air, New Delhi seems to be slipping.




Shashank Joshi


By my calculation [4], about 79% of India's combat aircraft squadrons and 96% of its main battle tanks are of Soviet-design, a legacy of New Delhi's close relationship with Moscow in the 1970s and 1980s. A country's defense choices can define the shape of its armed forces for decades to come. This is an important lesson for Indian leaders to heed as they consider the future of the Indian Air Force (IAF), a service that set out a highly ambitious doctrine [5] in 2012, but appears to be shrinking ineluctably year by year. What is especially troubling is that problems are visible across the low, medium, and high end of the IAF combat fleet.



At the high end is the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), part of Russia's PAK-FA program (pictured) whose first prototype flew in 2010 and has been in testing since. India is notionally co-developing the aircraft, with some suggestions [6]it's willing to invest tens of billions of dollars into the project. In practice, India's role has grown increasingly limited to particular areas [7] of the aircraft like tires and radar coolant.



In recent years, there have been growing signs of discontent [8] in India: “the Russians treat Indians like they are children and the IAF officials with the gold braid on their caps are used to being treated with excessive deference and the Russians do not do that.” Others were concerned about turning the IAF into an all-Russian fleet for another generation, the risks of betting heavily on an unproven platform, and more specific doubts [9] over the aircraft's engines, stealth features, weapons carriage, radar, and safety. Unsurprisingly, then, in September 2014, the IAF reportedly slashed its prospective orders from 10 squadrons (around 220 aircraft) to 6-7 (126- 147 aircraft) and then, in August 2015 [10], to just three (63 aircraft) – in total, a 70% drop in numbers for what is supposed to be the stealthy apex of Indian air power in the 2030s and beyond.



Things are looking just as confusing at the middle end of the spectrum. India had planned to buy 126 French Rafale aircraft as part of its long-running tender for Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) tender. But that deal dramatically changed shape in April 2015, when Indian Prime Minister Modi – reportedly cutting out Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar – agreed a deal to buy just 36 Rafale in flyaway condition, cancelling [11]the overall tender in July.

That raised two big questions. First, would even this rump deal survive? There have been numerous reports [12]that the two sides are stuck on the price and other issues [13], while Paris' hand has been strengthened by agreements to sell the Rafale to Egypt [14]and Qatar [15]. Second, what happens to other 90 aircraft that were part of the original deal: will India just settle for fewer jets, or make up the difference somewhere else?



Sweden has offered [16]the lighter and cheaper Gripen, which was part of the original MMRCA competition, while Parrikar has even suggested, intriguingly, that “some of it can be replaced by even proper stockpiling of missiles.” Two scholars at India's Observer Research Foundation (ORF) have recently written a report [17]on India's indigenous Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), but this project is probably a good quarter century away from completion and of little relevance to the medium-term problem.



Finally, trouble is afoot at the lower end too. India spent decades developing its indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), later named the Tejas, as a replacement for its large but ageing and accident-prone fleet of MiG-21s. Two squadrons of the Tejas are scheduled [18]to arrive before 2020, and four squadrons of a higher-end Tejas Mark II in the mid 2020s. But IAF officers widely express skepticism, even scorn [19], at the quality of the Mark I, and the Mark II is increasingly delayed [20]and will struggle to live up to the promise. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which developed the Tejas, has tried to push [21] a slightly improved Mark IA variant onto the IAF, and even suggested that this could obviate the need for the Mark II altogether, but this seems unlikely to be met with enthusiasm by those who actually have to fly the aircraft in combat.



Put these three issues together, and the scale of the problem becomes apparent. The IAF presently operates around 37 combat squadrons, expected to fall to 32 [22]to 35 (estimates vary) by the end of the year. Its 'sanctioned strength [23]' was supposed to be 42 combat squadrons by 2022. On present trends, this looks to me to be entirely unattainable. MiG-21s are retiring quicker than other aircraft are coming in. Even if the 90-aircraft 'Rafale gap' is filled, I struggle to see how India gets above the mid-30s in squadron numbers by 2020. And after that point, India will start losing its dedicated ground attack aircraft (5 MiG-27 [24] and 7 Jaguar [25]squadrons). The IAF has shown little interest in procuring dedicated replacements for the strike role, suggesting that multi-role aircraft like the Su-30MKI and Rafale will have to take up the slack – underscoring the problem of numbers.



In his 2011 report on the MMRCA deal, Dogfight [26], American analyst Ashley Tellis suggested that, “in terms of raw numbers alone, the IAF must plan on confronting by 2020 as many as 1,500 fourth-generation Pakistani and Chinese fighters.” Even if we generously assume that India can stay at 37 squadrons around that date, that would still be around half of that number of aircraft. Chinese participation in an India-Pakistan war is not necessarily likely, but India would be negligent not to consider the possibility and allocate air defense assets accordingly. And as academic Walter Ladwig explored in an excellent paper [27] earlier this year, India's superiority over Pakistan in modern aircraft has fallen from 4:1 in the early 2000s to less than 2.5:1 today. That ratio is likely to fall further.



Numbers aren't everything [28] in air combat, but they certainly matter. Consideration of the air balance could, for instance, shape Indian decisions over the feasibility and effectiveness of punitive air strikes on Pakistan in response to a major terrorist attack. Another long-term implication could be that India has less 'surplus' air power for power projection in the Indian Ocean region, especially during periods of heightened tension on its land borders.

In recent years, India's military modernization has been portrayed as massive, comprehensive, and unstoppable. But much of this has been about replacement of obsolete platforms rather than numerical growth, and the growing cost of a smaller number of key platforms – particularly combat aircraft – means that even massive spending can produce limited results. Barring a major crisis that prompts India to reverse the steady 25-year slide in the percentage of GDP it spends on defense (now at an all-time low of 2.4%), New Delhi will have to choose to make sacrifices elsewhere if it is serious about plugging the gaps in the IAF. The Army, which continues to consume over half of the defense budget, would be a reasonable place to start.
 
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The reality:

http://nationalinter...ce-13892?page=2






As other nations around the region are expanding their capabilities in the air, New Delhi seems to be slipping.




Shashank Joshi


By my calculation [4], about 79% of India's combat aircraft squadrons and 96% of its main battle tanks are of Soviet-design, a legacy of New Delhi's close relationship with Moscow in the 1970s and 1980s. A country's defense choices can define the shape of its armed forces for decades to come. This is an important lesson for Indian leaders to heed as they consider the future of the Indian Air Force (IAF), a service that set out a highly ambitious doctrine [5] in 2012, but appears to be shrinking ineluctably year by year. What is especially troubling is that problems are visible across the low, medium, and high end of the IAF combat fleet.



At the high end is the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), part of Russia's PAK-FA program (pictured) whose first prototype flew in 2010 and has been in testing since. India is notionally co-developing the aircraft, with some suggestions [6]it's willing to invest tens of billions of dollars into the project. In practice, India's role has grown increasingly limited to particular areas [7] of the aircraft like tires and radar coolant.



In recent years, there have been growing signs of discontent [8] in India: “the Russians treat Indians like they are children and the IAF officials with the gold braid on their caps are used to being treated with excessive deference and the Russians do not do that.” Others were concerned about turning the IAF into an all-Russian fleet for another generation, the risks of betting heavily on an unproven platform, and more specific doubts [9] over the aircraft's engines, stealth features, weapons carriage, radar, and safety. Unsurprisingly, then, in September 2014, the IAF reportedly slashed its prospective orders from 10 squadrons (around 220 aircraft) to 6-7 (126- 147 aircraft) and then, in August 2015 [10], to just three (63 aircraft) – in total, a 70% drop in numbers for what is supposed to be the stealthy apex of Indian air power in the 2030s and beyond.



Things are looking just as confusing at the middle end of the spectrum. India had planned to buy 126 French Rafale aircraft as part of its long-running tender for Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) tender. But that deal dramatically changed shape in April 2015, when Indian Prime Minister Modi – reportedly cutting out Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar – agreed a deal to buy just 36 Rafale in flyaway condition, cancelling [11]the overall tender in July.

That raised two big questions. First, would even this rump deal survive? There have been numerous reports [12]that the two sides are stuck on the price and other issues [13], while Paris' hand has been strengthened by agreements to sell the Rafale to Egypt [14]and Qatar [15]. Second, what happens to other 90 aircraft that were part of the original deal: will India just settle for fewer jets, or make up the difference somewhere else?



Sweden has offered [16]the lighter and cheaper Gripen, which was part of the original MMRCA competition, while Parrikar has even suggested, intriguingly, that “some of it can be replaced by even proper stockpiling of missiles.” Two scholars at India's Observer Research Foundation (ORF) have recently written a report [17]on India's indigenous Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), but this project is probably a good quarter century away from completion and of little relevance to the medium-term problem.



Finally, trouble is afoot at the lower end too. India spent decades developing its indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), later named the Tejas, as a replacement for its large but ageing and accident-prone fleet of MiG-21s. Two squadrons of the Tejas are scheduled [18]to arrive before 2020, and four squadrons of a higher-end Tejas Mark II in the mid 2020s. But IAF officers widely express skepticism, even scorn [19], at the quality of the Mark I, and the Mark II is increasingly delayed [20]and will struggle to live up to the promise. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which developed the Tejas, has tried to push [21] a slightly improved Mark IA variant onto the IAF, and even suggested that this could obviate the need for the Mark II altogether, but this seems unlikely to be met with enthusiasm by those who actually have to fly the aircraft in combat.



Put these three issues together, and the scale of the problem becomes apparent. The IAF presently operates around 37 combat squadrons, expected to fall to 32 [22]to 35 (estimates vary) by the end of the year. Its 'sanctioned strength [23]' was supposed to be 42 combat squadrons by 2022. On present trends, this looks to me to be entirely unattainable. MiG-21s are retiring quicker than other aircraft are coming in. Even if the 90-aircraft 'Rafale gap' is filled, I struggle to see how India gets above the mid-30s in squadron numbers by 2020. And after that point, India will start losing its dedicated ground attack aircraft (5 MiG-27 [24] and 7 Jaguar [25]squadrons). The IAF has shown little interest in procuring dedicated replacements for the strike role, suggesting that multi-role aircraft like the Su-30MKI and Rafale will have to take up the slack – underscoring the problem of numbers.



In his 2011 report on the MMRCA deal, Dogfight [26], American analyst Ashley Tellis suggested that, “in terms of raw numbers alone, the IAF must plan on confronting by 2020 as many as 1,500 fourth-generation Pakistani and Chinese fighters.” Even if we generously assume that India can stay at 37 squadrons around that date, that would still be around half of that number of aircraft. Chinese participation in an India-Pakistan war is not necessarily likely, but India would be negligent not to consider the possibility and allocate air defense assets accordingly. And as academic Walter Ladwig explored in an excellent paper [27] earlier this year, India's superiority over Pakistan in modern aircraft has fallen from 4:1 in the early 2000s to less than 2.5:1 today. That ratio is likely to fall further.



Numbers aren't everything [28] in air combat, but they certainly matter. Consideration of the air balance could, for instance, shape Indian decisions over the feasibility and effectiveness of punitive air strikes on Pakistan in response to a major terrorist attack. Another long-term implication could be that India has less 'surplus' air power for power projection in the Indian Ocean region, especially during periods of heightened tension on its land borders.

In recent years, India's military modernization has been portrayed as massive, comprehensive, and unstoppable. But much of this has been about replacement of obsolete platforms rather than numerical growth, and the growing cost of a smaller number of key platforms – particularly combat aircraft – means that even massive spending can produce limited results. Barring a major crisis that prompts India to reverse the steady 25-year slide in the percentage of GDP it spends on defense (now at an all-time low of 2.4%), New Delhi will have to choose to make sacrifices elsewhere if it is serious about plugging the gaps in the IAF. The Army, which continues to consume over half of the defense budget, would be a reasonable place to start.

Yet still magnitudes higher in power than your "1 squadron" airforce :omghaha:
 
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try is the operative word....and that too is a big maybe. They have no big love for you "traitors". :P



Nepal has an airforce? You do realise their top general is also the honorary top general of Indian army and vice versa?

And China? Yes just like China helped Pakistan in 1971 I suppose :D....not to mention Kargil. You really think either of them (Pak/China) are going to risk a nuclear war over swampy overpopulated Bong-land?

No one is coming to your aid in any such war....so don't start anything and follow the high level orders we give you....BAL or BNP....otherwise we will blitzkrieg you within a day or two if you decide to make relations that bad or try start a conflict....and the result will make PA performance in East Bengal seem quite good in comparison.

Stay in our good books and you have nothing to worry about in the first place....we do not even need to go into such war scenarios and projections.

You are better off comparing yourselves to Myanmar Air Force....instead of making stupid assertions like "1 squadron of hypothetical Su-30s is enough to handle Indian Air Force".

You do realise that such a Su-30 purchase has to be vetted by India in the first place? Or Russia will simply tell you to sod off if we say no.

Thats the level of respect and importance of BAF in world geopolitics.

Now let this thread get back to posting pictures of the few planes you have in flying condition and hypothetical acquisition plans of less than what 1 wing of Indian AF has already committed to.
China will not gain anything by fighting for Bangladesh.But they will get a country called randhia if they fight with us...:rofl::rolf:
 
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IAF is bakwas. In '65 War just one squadron of F-104s kept IAF away from entering into interior of Pakistan Most dogfights were over India or on the border. One Squadron of this lethal eqpt is just fine to start wetting Indian dhotis. More will follow obviously. In the air force it is always the quality of eqot and pilots that matter-- areas where Dhoti Air Force will never advance into.

Hahhaa, and this is a professional? I must say, these days anyone can become a TT or a professional. All i asked was how 12 aircraft would take on hundreds of aircraft and all this "professional " can come up with is dhotis and some bullshit about quality. They maintain 37f7 and 8 mig 29.....8 of them and they think 12 (btw 12 is not even the squadron strength of any self respecting airforce) will take on Indian airforce.


Wait wait!! I get it. This is the joke section of PDF. Now I understand.

Carry on people, started Friday morning with a hearty laugh
 
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Hahhaa, and this is a professional? I must say, these days anyone can become a TT or a professional. All i asked was how 12 aircraft would take on hundreds of aircraft and all this "professional " can come up with is dhotis and some bullshit about quality. They maintain 37f7 and 8 mig 29.....8 of them and they think 12 (btw 12 is not even the squadron strength of any self respecting airforce) will take on Indian airforce.


Wait wait!! I get it. This is the joke section of PDF. Now I understand.

Carry on people, started Friday morning with a hearty laugh
As everyone says laughter is the best medicine.Laugh as much as you want:)
 
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Yes I am sure seeing the state of the swamp living in your country (the fact they found hundreds of Bangladeshis in a mass grave in Malaysia earlier in the year) ....that you want to bring the rest of the world down to your level by some dream of a nuclear holocaust.

Aint happening, no one is going to fight a war for you on your behalf and get their population centers destroyed utterly as a result. You are literally pond scum in geopolitics. China may help Pakistan (and even thats a big stretch)....but you they will leave in the gutter as we squelch on you. Bangladesh means nothing to anyone really other than a source for cheap clothes and a big nest of annoying illegal immigrants.

@Rain Man and @gslv mk3 can tell you just how bad it is really.
Dhotis try to get sympathy....
No one in the region currently likes them:haha:haha
 
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First f-7BG overhauled in Bangladesh
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BAF Mig-29 Pilot interview

 
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First f-7BG overhauled in Bangladesh
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BAF Mig-29 Pilot interview


after watching this video (5.55) i found that those overhaul mig is no near to smt lavel, it still use the same cockpit layout...........and that sucks. :hitwall:
old mig-29 cockpit
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Mig-29-Cockpit.jpg


overhaul mig-29 smt cockpit.
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AT THE END THE BOTTOM LINE " WE NEED MORE NEW CAPABLE FIGHTER"............:pissed:
 
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after watching this video (5.55) i found that those overhaul mig is no near to smt lavel, it still use the same cockpit layout...........and that sucks. :hitwall:
old mig-29 cockpit
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Mig-29-Cockpit.jpg


overhaul mig-29 smt cockpit.
p0064897.jpg



AT THE END THE BOTTOM LINE " WE NEED MORE NEW CAPABLE FIGHTER"............:pissed:
More....:)
 

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after watching this video (5.55) i found that those overhaul mig is no near to smt lavel, it still use the same cockpit layout...........and that sucks. :hitwall:
old mig-29 cockpit
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Mig-29-Cockpit.jpg


overhaul mig-29 smt cockpit.
p0064897.jpg



AT THE END THE BOTTOM LINE " WE NEED MORE NEW CAPABLE FIGHTER"............:pissed:
overhaul and upgrades are two different things lol
 
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overhaul and upgrades are two different things lol
YES it,s different..............now to the point.
everyone saying that our mig is going to upgrad SMT LAVEL. so for overhaul we sent all our mig to ukrain but it,s only overhaul , it does not encrass any kind of advantages or updated avonicks. it raises some question?
1) how can we upgrad our mig to smt lavel (what is uses russien avionics) not ukriean?
2) is it not wise to send them directly russia to upgrad smt lavel? by upgrading all thinks we can also overhaul this mig at same time with less money expending.
someone is really blaffing about mig-29 upgrading.

this is how mig -29 smt upgrad......................:big_boss:

Airframe change: (YOU DON,T NEED TO OVERHAUL SAPERATLY)
A few changes took place during the aircraft's development. The redesigned airframe was constructed from a lightweight Aluminium-lithium alloy to increase thrust-to-weight ratio. Airintake ramps' geometry was revised, the upper intake louvers removed to make way for more fuel in the LERXs, mesh screens introduced to prevent foreign object damage (FOD) and enlarged inlet dimensions for higher airflow.
russien SMT;
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OVERHAUL MIG-29 OF BAF................:hitwall:
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