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what is the current strength of the BAF - who will foot the bill for such a proposed AF. a 4th / 5th gen a/c will cost close to USD 80-100m per.

lets see what the outgoing CAS of BAF has to say in his interview to AFM - April issue.
1.quality 4th generation plane available at $30m-35$m per (not $80-$100)
2. 5th generation is still under development, will be available for export after 2025, we are talking about that time.
 
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So many? And even 2 sqdrs of 5th gen fighters??

Pretty ambitious for an AF that does operate less than 10 4th gen fighters....

Not Ambitious plan, here are some reasons:

1. We operate less than 10 4th gen fighters because of ignorance to armed forces. eg. Our economy is 2.092 times bigger than Myanmar (according to nominal GDP, PPP GDP comparison result will be more bigger) and they operates 32 Mig29s (in total 110-120 fighter aircraft) while we are operating only 8 Mig29s (in total 60-65 fighter aircraft)

2. By 2021 we will be middle income country.
 
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There is no realistic Air Threat so far but one must incrementally invest & increase, modernize and head towards modern next generation weaponry.


My opinion is based upon Tactical Importance does it make sense I leave it to you people.

*Long Range Ground Radars
*Medium-High Altitude SAM Systems for Tri Arm.
*Upgrade Mig-29s add 8 more with good number of weaponry and associated equipment
*Atleast a single AEW&C based on Chinese Y-8
*Couple of CN-295 [Naval Asset I suppose Air Force would be first to operate before an Naval Air Arm is established]
*ALCM Air Lunched Cruise Missiles
*Land Attack Cruise Missiles and associated Systems
*Anti Radiation Missiles like Chinese LD-10 or similar Russian origin
 
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1.quality 4th generation plane available at $30m-35$m per (not $80-$100)
2. 5th generation is still under development, will be available for export after 2025, we are talking about that time.

EFT/Gripen/Rafale/MiG-35 all 4th gen available for 30m-35m - pl buy me 1squadron each.
 
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EFT/Gripen/Rafale/MiG-35 all 4th gen available for 30m-35m - pl buy me 1squadron each.

you think only EFT/Gripen/Rafale/MiG-35 are 4th generation available ? plz excuse me , i did not know it. i thought there are many other 4th generation available
 
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There is no realistic Air Threat so far but one must incrementally invest & increase, modernize and head towards modern next generation weaponry.


My opinion is based upon Tactical Importance does it make sense I leave it to you people.

*Long Range Ground Radars
*Medium-High Altitude SAM Systems for Tri Arm.
*Upgrade Mig-29s add 8 more with good number of weaponry and associated equipment
*Atleast a single AEW&C based on Chinese Y-8
*Couple of CN-295 [Naval Asset I suppose Air Force would be first to operate before an Naval Air Arm is established]
*ALCM Air Lunched Cruise Missiles
*Land Attack Cruise Missiles and associated Systems
*Anti Radiation Missiles like Chinese LD-10 or similar Russian origin

we already signed agreement with Russia( part of $1.5 billion arms purchase) to buy GAMA-DE radar, CASTA-2E2 radar
and upgrading Mig29s to SMT standard.
 
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we already signed agreement with Russia( part of $1.5 billion arms purchase) to buy GAMA-DE radar, CASTA-2E2 radar and upgrading Mig29s to SMT standard.

That's positive but what else is part of deal the russian deal like BVRs, Anti Radiation Missiles, Target & Reconnaissance Pods, any information?
 
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That's positive but what else is part of deal the russian deal like BVRs, Anti Radiation Missiles, Target & Reconnaissance Pods, any information?

it is reported that Bangladesh's procurement of equipment about 7 class weapons and equipment, including anti-tank missile Metis-M-1, armored vehicles BTR-80, BTR-80-K automatic grenade launcher AGS-30 transport armored vehicles PP- 91, MTU-90, Yak-130 trainer aircraft, armed transport helicopter Mi -171 SH, GAMA-DE radar, CASTA-2E2 radar.

Note: Russia agreed to build BTR 80 maintenance plant in Bangladesh so that we can maintenance or upgrade them in Bangladesh.
 
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it is reported that Bangladesh's procurement of equipment about 7 class weapons and equipment, including anti-tank missile Metis-M-1, armored vehicles BTR-80, BTR-80-K automatic grenade launcher AGS-30 transport armored vehicles PP- 91, MTU-90, Yak-130 trainer aircraft, armed transport helicopter Mi -171 SH, GAMA-DE radar, CASTA-2E2 radar.

I'm interested to know what comes with mig upgrades.
 
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I'm interested to know what comes with mig upgrades.

It will be Mig29SMT standard @Luftwaffe more info

Mig29SMT

The MiG-29SMT is the up-to-date modification of MiG-29 multirole frontline fighter. The aircraft exhibits a long flight range due to extra capacity of integral fuel tanks and installation of in-flight refueling system (similar to that of the MiG-29SD). The aircraft and engine service life and time limits and design service life have been feasibly increased; the labor requirements and maintenance costs have been reduced.

The MiG-29 evolution program initiated in the late 80-s led to the creation of the aircraft distinguished from the basic version not only by noticeable improvement of the fighter main parameters as a weapons platform-carrier (longer operational range), but also by principally new features.

The most vital feature of this fighter is the capability to effectively operate against air and ground or sea surface targets with the use of high-precision air-to-surface missiles, thus making it a multirole combat aircraft incorporating in one air vehicle the qualities of air superiority fighter and tactical strike aircraft.

The weapon control system of the MiG-29SMT aircraft is built around the ZHUK-ME advanced multimode radar developed by the PHASOTRON-NIIR Moscow-based company. The integrated system incorporates a digital top-level computer system based on the principles of open architecture with use of multiplex data buses, meeting the MIL-STD-1553B requirements, and new information-control system employing full-color large-format liquid-crystal displays, measuring 152 x 203 mm (6 x 8 inch). The displays are developed by the Ramenskoye instruments design bureau (city of Ramenskoye, Moscow region).

The HOTAS concept is fully realized in the MiG-29SMT cockpit; the pilot controls the aircraft, performs targeting and launches weapons without removal of hands from the control stick and throttle control lever.

The MiG-29SMT aircraft six underwing and one ventral store stations can carry up to 5000 kg of external load, including the R-73E agile air-to-air missiles with a combined gas-aerodynamic control system and IR seeker with a wide off-boresight angles range, the RVV-AE medium-range air-to-air missiles with an active radar seeker and the R-27R1/ER1 medium-range air-to-air missiles with a semi-active radar seeker.

In operation against ground and sea surface targets, the MiG-29SMT is able to effectively use contemporary high-precision weapons: the Kh-29T(TE) air-to-surface missiles with a TV seeker, the Kh-31A antiship missiles, the Kh-31P antiradar missiles, the KAB-500KR guided bombs with a TV seeker and powerful warhead.

The upgraded model of batch production MIG-29SMT fighter has an additional two tanks of propellant can cover, without refueling, up to 3,500 kilometers and carry up to 5 tonnes of combat payload. The hatch design compares favorably with that of the predecessor models. The upgraded MIG can be committed to action as a fighter, interceptor, attack, reconnaissance or command post plane. It can, as a command post plane, be acting in contact with A-50 long-range radio detection and control jets. Any kind of Russian- or foreign-made air-to-air and air-to-surface launchers may be mounted aboard this plane.

A new up-to-date cockpit data display and control field, open-architecture airborne equipment complex based on highly effective computing facilities and multiplex communication channels (new navigation, ECM, communication, guidance and data recording systems) can be integrated. The aircraft can be provided with the "Zhuk-M" multimode radar boosting a longer range of air target detection and +/-90° viewing angle in azimuth. The radar is able to track a greater number of targets and engage them simultaneously; scanning in the air-to-surface modes (including those of high resolution) based on indication of moving and sea-surface targets have been incorporated. The weapons mix is widened.

At the buyer's request, radar-absorbent coatings can be applied, Western and national equipment can be installed and number of store stations can be increased. The process of in-service aircraft upgrading up to the MiG-29SMT level has been developed. Works on the aircraft further upgrading are under way.

MiG Corp. has also developed a modular system of MiG-29 upgrading to the MiG 29SMT level. This system is flexible, allowing potential clients to chose the set of aircraft upgrades what they really need. Set of upgrades includes three modules. First module is upgrading the aircraft weapons control system transforming MiG-29 into multirole fighter. A new "Zhuk-ME" radar with a terrain mapping mode is installed. Upgrade of the weapons control system allow to increase considerably the range of "air-to-air" and "air-to-ground" guided and unguided weapons.

While keeping unbeatable air combat characteristics, MiG-29 obtains strike functions, comparable with modern foreign competitors. Second module is increasing internal and drop fuel tanks capacity, upgrading fuel system and installing in-flight refueling equipment, adopted, according to customer's demand, for usage with Russian or foreign tanker aircraft. Third module is upgrading of on-board equipment and installation digital fly-by-wire control system. Pilot's cockpit is equipped with color LCD MFDs, modern flight navigation and communication equipment including satellite navigation of Russian or foreign origin, fully compliant with NATO and ICAO standards.

The MiG-29SMT aircraft features:

· Longer range and flight endurance;
· High combat effectiveness;
· Superb agility;
· High reliability and flight safety;
· Easy operation and reduced DOC, up-to-date logistic support;
· Advanced architecture of cockpit avionics and information control system, HOTAS;
· Integrated fire-control system consisting of upgraded radar fire-control system built around the ZHUK-ME advanced radar boasting longer operating ranges, multichannel firing and up-to-date air-to-surface modes, and of IR search and track system and helmet-mounted sight;
· Up-to-date navigation, radio communication, electronic countermeasures, monitoring and recording systems as well as optronic and reconnaissance pods;
· Modified weapon system including the RVV-AE, R-27ER1, R-27ET1, R-27R1, R-27T1, R-73E air-to-air missiles, the Kh-31A, Kh-31P, Kh-29T (TE), Kh-29L air-to-surface missiles, the KAB-500KR (OD), KAB-500L guided bombs, rockets, free-fall bombs and the GSh-301 built-in gun.
 
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guys watch this video of BAF 25 SQN PART I | Facebook :yahoo:
I have seen photos of these aircrafts of BAF shooting missiles. But how is it possible for these jets to carry missiles?

BAF has certainly an ambitious plan for the future induction of more 4/4.5G planes like Mig-29SMT or above. This is why it is talking with Russia to induct about a sq. of YAK-130 training planes. Why should BAF buy training planes to train its pilots to operate 4.5/5G planes, but then will not buy the fighters?

You are talking about the present status. However, while you are having a static mind, BAF may have a dynamic thinking. Just think, what the military bought during the last three years for the Navy? Think of all the frigates, corvettes, LPCs-M, FACs and many others. How much do you think BN spent on thes goods? We also bought 3 transport helis from the US alonmgwith 20 Rolles Royce engines. Think also of tanks and SAMs.

How much did we spend? It could be more than $2b. Now, the BN will also induct two submarines, and also two 100m long stealth type 056 corvettes. These are not our last shopping, certainly.

After the navy is strong enough, BAF will certainly purchase probably more migs and then will buy 5G planes. By this time our pilots will get training with YAK-130 on how to man the 5G planes. We are not a stupid oil rich country where the govt buys new weapons because of US insistence, but the soldiers are not given proper trainings to operate the weapons.

We will bite only what we can swallow. You are very right to imply that we are a very poor country to afford hifi weapons. But we will buy these from our future money and we cannot afford the luxury of keeping these weapons unwrapped. And, lastly, do not also worry about our source of money. For one, the BoB is full of resources. For the next twenty years we will be spending only a fraction of our wealth that lies beneath there.
I don't think we have to buy more MiGs and we have to switch our concentration from MiGs to Sukhoi or Gripen. But yes should introduce at least 1 squadron of Mig 35s
 
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it is reported that Bangladesh's procurement of equipment about 7 class weapons and equipment, including anti-tank missile Metis-M-1, armored vehicles BTR-80, BTR-80-K automatic grenade launcher AGS-30 transport armored vehicles PP- 91, MTU-90, Yak-130 trainer aircraft, armed transport helicopter Mi -171 SH, GAMA-DE radar, CASTA-2E2 radar.

Note: Russia agreed to build BTR 80 maintenance plant in Bangladesh so that we can maintenance or upgrade them in Bangladesh.

What about Kornet-E?
 
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you think only EFT/Gripen/Rafale/MiG-35 are 4th generation available ? plz excuse me , i did not know it. i thought there are many other 4th generation available

please let me know, i could be mistaken

"With its 4+ generation competitors EFT/Rafale/Mi-35 clustered in the $60-120+ million range vs. the Gripen’s claimed $40-60 million"

F-35 is 100m
F-22 is 200m

MiG-29 may also cost in excess of 40m. is MiG-29 4th gen
Su-30MK is 4th gen but in excess of 60m
 
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There is a new thread that says BAF has already ordered 4 Su-27SK, 4 Su-27UBK, 8 Mig-29SMT and 16 YAK-130 from Russia under the $1 billion loan on 13th January. Hope, this thread will draw your interests. If the new is true, then BAF is moving to exactly the direction that all of us are predicting.

One more thing. If the number of YAK purchase is really 16 units, it shows BAF wants to induct many more 4/4.5G planes in the near future.
 
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