Bangaldeshi Armoured Corps: MBTs

[syed1]

According to the BAL government 2 new Sajoa regiments will be raised in the future, means we will get 88 new MBTs soon.

 

[syed1]

Currently there are six armoured regiment in Bangladesh Army Sajoa Corps


Bengal Cavalry, 9th Bengal Lancer, 12th Lancer, 6th Cavalry, 4th Horse and 7th Horse.



It would be interesting to see what's going to be the name of two new upcoming tank regiments.

 

[bluesky]

Good question......Why does BD needs a war against India.
Anybody care to answer.

India is a perpetrator in the affairs of BD. It is not BD that solicits a war with India, but, it knows unless BD has a strong military, India will impose its will and ambition over it.

 

[bd_4_ever]

@BDforever - That's a pretty good figure you mentioned last page. So around 500-600 tanks at the disposal. We can certainly hold our ground with that. For a country's size that of ours, I still think we can still cater for around 900-1000 tanks, all upgraded and well-maintained.

But they will stand as long as we have air cover. Judging by the state our Air Force is in, I would'nt be too much excited. For any superior AF, these tanks are literally sitting ducks.

Either we need to buy modern fighters asap, or build an intensive network of air defense batteries.

 

[TopCat]

Without Air Superiority Having an large Armoured forces is invain. We all found that out in recent wars over middle east. Tanks are seating ducks for jet fighters & attack helicopters. You should improve your Air Force in order not to let that happen.
From Indian side I doubt It will be possible to conduct effective large armoured thrust into Bangladesh effectively, IAF will play the most importent role in a conflict.
Realistictly with no disrespect intended, Myammar Armoured forces looks little stronger, just a bit, compared to you Armoured corpses. It will be nail bitting to watch who wins if any conflict occurs between both countries.

BD greeneries will give a lot of cover for tanks and I dont think IAF will be enough to take out our armored columns. You need to come down to have the duet. Its not Arabian desert.

 

[syed1]

@BDforever - That's a pretty good figure you mentioned last page. So around 500-600 tanks at the disposal. We can certainly hold our ground with that. For a country's size that of ours, I still think we can still cater for around 900-1000 tanks, all upgraded and well-maintained.

But they will stand as long as we have air cover. Judging by the state our Air Force is in, I would'nt be too much excited. For any superior AF, these tanks are literally sitting ducks.

Either we need to buy modern fighters asap, or build an intensive network of air defense batteries.

It's actually 310 MBTs. Each regiments are equipped with 45 tanks and we only have six regiments in service. Rest of the tanks are under ACC&S for training or have been kept reserved.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Currently there are six armoured regiment in Bangladesh Army Sajoa Corps


Bengal Cavalry, 9th Bengal Lancer, 12th Lancer, 6th Cavalry, 4th Horse and 7th Horse.



It would be interesting to see what's going to be the name of two new upcoming tank regiments.

Interestingly these regiments are based on the names of Pak army regiments .. Raised by British.. And transferred to Pak army after 47 (with the regiments consisting of men from
Modern day Pak).

 

[Homo Sapiens]

It's actually 310 MBTs. Each regiments are equipped with 45 tanks and we only have six regiments in service. Rest of the tanks are under ACC&S for training or have been kept reserved.

300 tanks is very inadequate.We should need at least 1000 tanks for proper defence.

Each regiments are equipped with 45 tanks

How many tanks create an armoured brigade? We have several armoured brigade attached to various infantry division.

 

[syed1]

300 tanks is very inadequate.We should need at least 1000 tanks for proper defence.


How many tanks create an armoured brigade? We have several armoured brigade attached to various infantry division.

There are two armoured brigade under Bangladesh Army, 93 Armoured Brigade and 36 armoured brigade. An armour brigade is made by 3 cavalry regiments.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

There are two armoured brigade under Bangladesh Army, 93 Armoured Brigade and 36 armoured brigade. An armour brigade is made by 3 cavalry regiments.

That means each armoured brigade consists 132 tanks?

 

[syed1]

Interestingly these regiments are based on the names of Pak army regiments .. Raised by British.. And transferred to Pak army after 47 (with the regiments consisting of men from
Modern day Pak).

The nucleus of today's Bangladesh Armoured Corps was created by Bengali officers, soldiers and technicians of 29 Cavalry (Bengal Tigers), 29 Cavalry (today the unit is simply called "Tigers") was the one and only tank regiment of Pakistan army stationed in Bangladesh during liberation war. These men defected to Bangladeshi side during the war. Later men from 29 cavalry created the first armoured regiment of Bangladesh Army, 1st Bengal Lancers. 1st Bengal Lancers were armed with some M 24 Chaffes captured during the 71 war and 30 T 54 supplied by Egypt back in 1974. Later 1st Bengal Lancers took part in 1975 & 1976 coups (75 coup killed Sheikh Mujib). 1st BL was disbanded by President Ziaur Rahman back in 1980s.




It's no surprise that Bangladeshi armour corps shares names such as "Lancers," "Horse," "Cavalry" with their bigger formidable Pakistani counterpart. These are the unit names used by commonwealth army armoured corps across the world.

That means each armoured brigade consists 132 tanks?

135, precisely. However the number may go up and down based on the budgets & spare parts allocated for Sajoa Corps.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

135, precisely. However the number may go up and down based on the budgets & spare parts allocated for Sajoa Corps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_formations_of_the_Bangladesh_Army
Thanks.According to this wikipedia page, BD army have 9 artillery brigade and 4 artillery regiment.Then how much it translate the amount of artillery number? I mean how many artillery consists of brigade and regiment?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The nucleus of today's Bangladesh Armoured Corps was created by Bengali officers, soldiers and technicians of 29 Cavalry (Bengal Tigers), 29 Cavalry (today the unit is simply called "Tigers") was the one and only tank regiment of Pakistan army stationed in Bangladesh during liberation war. These men defected to Bangladeshi side during the war. Later men from 29 cavalry created the first armoured regiment of Bangladesh Army, 1st Bengal Lancers. 1st Bengal Lancers were armed with some M 24 Chaffes captured during the 71 war and 30 T 54 supplied by Egypt back in 1974. Later 1st Bengal Lancers took part in 1975 & 1976 coups (75 coup killed Sheikh Mujib). 1st BL was disbanded by President Ziaur Rahman back in 1980s.




It's no surprise that Bangladeshi armour corps shares names such as "Lancers," "Horse," "Cavalry" with their bigger formidable Pakistani counterpart. These are the unit names used by commonwealth army armoured corps across the world.




135, precisely. However the number may go up and down based on the budgets & spare parts allocated for Sajoa Corps.

12 Lancers,7 horse,6 cav etc are PA Armour regiments that trace back their origin to the British Indian army.. These units are one of the oldest... As for commonwealth .. Bangladeshi or Bengalis in general was never recruited in the British army .. Hence it has nothing to do with commonwealth armies rather than PA .. On whose structure it seems Bangladesh army is working.. Be it your badges/insignias for different corps or even the khaki uniform or the uniform of of your "BMA" adjutant (again similar to "PMA") .. But these regiments surely existed at that time and after creation of Pak they were granted to Pak (or their officers and ranks opted for PA).

 

[syed1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_formations_of_the_Bangladesh_Army
Thanks.According to this wikipedia page, BD army have 9 artillery brigade and 4 artillery regiment.Then how much it translate the amount of artillery number? I mean how many artillery consists of brigade and regiment?

Currently there are ten artillery brigades (9th,10th,11th,17th,19th,24th,33th, 55th, 66th
and another ad hoc unit ), two field regiment (23,40) attached to 10 infantry division located at Ramu, One Self Propelled Howitzer regiment (11 SPR artillery) attached to 11 Mechanized Infantry Division located in Bogra, One field regiment artillery (18th FRA) attached to 17 infantry division located in Syleht, One medium regiment artillery (10 MRA) and one field regiment artillery (14 FRA) attached to 33 infantry division located at Comilla. So total 10 dedicared Artillery brigade, 4 Field Regiment artillery attached with different infantry/mech infantry division, 1 Self Propelled Regiment and 1 medium regiment artillery attached with a division. Gun numbers In each division varies and it's really hard to put a roundabout figure of guns in each brigade. however the formation should be similar with commonwealth artillery corps, specially Pakistan army artillery corps

 

[syed1]

12 Lancers,7 horse,6 cav etc are PA Armour regiments that trace back their origin to the British Indian army.. These units are one of the oldest... As for commonwealth .. Bangladeshi or Bengalis in general was never recruited in the British army .. Hence it has nothing to do with commonwealth armies rather than PA .. On whose structure it seems Bangladesh army is working.. Be it your badges/insignias for different corps or even the khaki uniform or the uniform of of your "BMA" adjutant (again similar to "PMA") .. But these regiments surely existed at that time and after creation of Pak they were granted to Pak (or their officers and ranks opted for PA).

12 Lancers,7 horse,6 cav etc are PA Armour regiments that trace back their origin to the British Indian army.. These units are one of the oldest... As for commonwealth .. Bangladeshi or Bengalis in general was never recruited in the British army .. Hence it has nothing to do with commonwealth armies rather than PA .. On whose structure it seems Bangladesh army is working.. Be it your badges/insignias for different corps or even the khaki uniform or the uniform of of your "BMA" adjutant (again similar to "PMA") .. But these regiments surely existed at that time and after creation of Pak they were granted to Pak (or their officers and ranks opted for PA).

12 Lancers,7 horse,6 cav etc are PA Armour regiments that trace back their origin to the British Indian army.. These units are one of the oldest... As for commonwealth .. Bangladeshi or Bengalis in general was never recruited in the British army .. Hence it has nothing to do with commonwealth armies rather than PA .. On whose structure it seems Bangladesh army is working.. Be it your badges/insignias for different corps or even the khaki uniform or the uniform of of your "BMA" adjutant (again similar to "PMA") .. But these regiments surely existed at that time and after creation of Pak they were granted to Pak (or their officers and ranks opted for PA).

Let me make it easier for you. After Bangladesh became a sovereign nation, A lot of officers were sent to UK and a lot of British advisors came to Bangladesh to help us developing our military. Our Lancers, Cavalry has nothing to do with your lancers or cavalry. In fact they were not named after your historical units. They were named in accordance with our necessaries. The motto of these units are also different. hence The rank structure, military formations, tactics everything has to do with commonwealth.



The badges and insignias are also influenced by British army. replace our water lily with a crown and you will see these units will turn into a British one.


However JCO ranks have been reorganised under American influence. And we don't use Khaki in our military academy, it's olive green. wearing Khaki is also a commonwealth tradition, it's not exclusive for Pakistan army. In fact our earlier khakis were similiar to British khakis than Pakistani one.


And I don't know what's the meaning of "Bangladeshi or Bengalis were never recruited in British army in general" means, but
There were 170000 Bengali soldiers in the British Indian Army during the Second World War (Source: Colonel Brian Cloughley " A History of the Pakistan Army (Second edition, page 141). It was also mentioned in Asian Foundation History of Bangladesh series.