Baluchistan Money Scandal:- Why Is Punjab Quiet About It.

[Dalit]

@MastanKhan you are loosing it fast.

Corruption has no ethnicity. It has no fix boundaries or domains. It is definitely not about which province you talk about. At least I am not aware of anything called Punjabi corruption, Balochi corruption etc. Have you?

A Baloch Sardar is no more corrupt or unfair than a Punjabi industrialist or a Chaudhry. They do not do this because they belong to a specific group. They do it because of sheer greed which is ingrained in human nature. If greed is unchecked internally and externally, humans will resort to such things irrespective of where they live.

I think you badly need your vacations. Go somewhere where you can have some laughs with your friends.

You're 100% correct, but I think the point brother Mastan is trying to make is that for years some Baloch have been shouting and blaming others. It's not that simple. A lot of the corruption also exists among the Baloch clan leaders. These people have oppressed their own people, but they keep using the Punjab card. That's not the truth.

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

No need to give rise to provincialism... the whole country should become one and nothing should stand in it's unity. The matter should just be dealt by the relevant authorities... hate mongering ain't gonna help...

The politicians are already provoking provincialism from the day Pakistan was created. You, however are giving a good idea to Punjab Government to use it as their ***-saver in this regards.

 

[MastanKhan]

Elitism is everywhere the same. It is the same in Punjab, KP, Baluchistan and Sindh. The rich are stealing everywhere and the poor are dying everywhere.

Bu tthe baluchis blame punjab for taking all their money---and that has been their mantra for decades---.

Now is the time ofr punjab to retaliate---here---look what happened---. Strike at the iron when it is hot.

 

[AbRaj]

Let me put it this way, you're not contributing anything to this discussion. That is because you know nothing about the subject matter.

Sorry posted in wrong thread

 

[Dalit]

Bu tthe baluchis blame punjab for taking all their money---and that has been their mantra for decades---.

Now is the time ofr punjab to retaliate---here---look what happened---. Strike at the iron when it is hot.

I understand your point and it is a fair one. The Baloch leaders have been blaming Punjab for years. Fact is that the Baloch leaders are largely responsible for keeping their province backward. They have shackled their people for their own benefit. They seek political and economic control over their people, but it's the same everywhere. Everyone knows this. Blaming Punjab has been their favorite mantra. It's not going to work anymore. The Baloch people have to wake up and smell the coffee. The Baloch people will have to decide whether they seek freedom from oppression. No one can do it for them.

I also believe that Balochistan isn't an exception in this regard. Every province is dealing with some form and degree of corruption, mismanagement and nepotism. Corruption and dishonesty has become part of our DNA.

 

[AbRaj]

Let me put it this way, you're not contributing anything to this discussion. That is because you know nothing about the subject matter.

Yes I agree I don't know enough

 

[Max]

Hi,

The treasury secretary of baluchistan is caught with 70 crore rupees stashed in his house---money stolen from the people of baluchistan.

I have lived in baluchistan for many years and never a day went by that the Baluchis did not blame Punjabi's and Punjab for stealing their money and targetted them for all their miseries.

So---I do not understand---why the people of Punjab are quiet today and in the last few days since this incidence come to the limelight.

I would have thought that Punjab would have gone full throttle on a campaign to tell the Baluchis that it had been their leaders and their govt servants who were the corrupt ones and looted and plundered their money and kept them down for decades.

They should should have told the Baluchis---look here is the proof---just one Baluch in power has plundered so much---and this may just be the tip of the iceberg---.

Punjab should also tell the Baluchis to confront their leaders and sardars and find out more about the high life that the sardars and their kids have been living for years.

if we do so then the ethnic nationalist will call it drama by Punjab and will declare Mushtaq Raisani (corrupt sec) an agent of Punjab to defame Balochs

Not only Balochs, Gilgati, Pashtun too have fair numbers of Punjab haters.. only saraiki Hindko, and Kashmiris are nice to us.. Sindhi are indifferent.

 

[Dalit]

if we do so then the ethnic nationalist will call it drama by Punjab and will declare Mushtaq Raisani (corrupt sec) an agent of Punjab to defame Balochs

Not only Balochs, Sindhi, Gilgati, Pashtun too have fair numbers of Punjab haters.. only saraiki Hindko, and Kashmiris are nice to us..

Punjab being the biggest province has made some fatal mistakes in the past. We have to acknowledge this. Without a shred of a doubt, when other provinces cry about not receiving their fair share they have a valid point. However, this is the result of mass corruption and mismanagement. When you have corruption everywhere, the most powerful province will grab the lion's share. My advice to Punjab would be to lead by example. It is the biggest province of Pakistan. It has the most resources. Lead by example and act as a catalyst of change. Sacrifices will have to be made. Pakistan needs to be unified.

 

[Max]

Punjab being the biggest province has made some fatal mistakes in the past. Without a shred of a doubt, when other provinces cry about not receiving their fair share they have a credible point. However, this is the result of corruption and mismanagement. When you have corruption everywhere, the most powerful province will grab the lion's share. My advice to Punjab would be to lead by example. It is the biggest province of Pakistan. It has the most resources. Lead by example.

agree, i think Punjab should be divided in two or three provinces, it will end blame game ..

 

[S.Y.A]

agree, i think Punjab should be divided in two or three provinces, it will end blame game ..

not just Punjab, every province. and not along ethnic lines, but whatever is administratively appropriate.

 

[Max]

not just Punjab, every province. and not along ethnic lines, but whatever is administratively appropriate.

But first it needs to be done in Punjab bcoz it have a huge population (half population of Pakistan), you are asking what Nawaz Sharif said, meri accountability hogi to sub ki honi chahiye 1947 se

 

[shah1398]

The secretary was appointed by Punjabis not by Baloch (they don't take part in elections)

So Abdul Malik Baloch from Baloch Nationalist party was also appointed as CM by Punjabis and he is not Baloch nor was Ex CM Raesani by that definition. The assertion is more like that every Pak COAS is appointed by USA.


PML(N) esp in Punjab is quiet because of multiple reasons as:

(1) Abdul Malik Baloch from Nationalist party was made CM under a deal with PML(N) as there was no clear majority for both parties so that makes Abdul Malik n party an ally and U dont talk against any ally.
(2) They aint in position of uttering a single word against them as they themselves are in line of fire for corruption.
(3) If they try to act against the issue then ultimately their current government in Balochistan would be toppled in any case and they cant afford re election there.

 

[Paksanity]

You're 100% correct, but I think the point brother Mastan is trying to make is that for years some Baloch have been shouting and blaming others. It's not that simple. A lot of the corruption also exists among the Baloch clan leaders. These people have oppressed their own people, but they keep using the Punjab card. That's not the truth.

I don't think he himself knows what he wants to talk about it. He does not even know what was the official status of person that was arrested. He does not even know what people of Balochistan are called. Let's leave it at that.

So are we going to identify corruption with ethnicity? Raja Rental's corruption is Punjabi corruption? Nawaz Sharif =Kashmiri+Punjabi corruption, Zardari = Sindhi corruption and Altaf hussain, Musharaaf = Muhajir corruption? Is this how we are going to play it?

All of the personalities above were in Federal government which means they looted entire Pakistan including Balochistan and its people. Does that mean they looted Baloch people just because they were from other ethnicity? No. They looted from every other region and ethnicity equally if not more. This official, if appointed in Punjab would have done the same corruption. A corrupt bureaucrat from Punjab would do the same in Balochistan or Sindh or anywhere in the world. A person who is corrupt would do the same no matter where he is or who the victim is.

Corruption is a national problem in Pakistan. You can not tie it to the ethnicity. You can correct a wrong with another wrong. One will only further complicate the problem.

 

[Vapnope]

let's not pretend that Baloch sardar's are angels.

I am not saying they are angels. In Makrani belt there are no sardars.
Blaming on sardars and leaving the inability of state is not being fair. The most resource rich province and most under privileged and poverty stricken province too.

 

[Dalit]

I am not saying they are angels. In Makrani belt there are no sardars.
Blaming on sardars and leaving the inability of state is not being fair. The most resource rich province and most under privileged and poverty stricken province too.

Both the government (previous and current) and the Baloch sardar are responsible.