Bahrain Airshow 2016 : Light Combat Aircraft Tejas in action

[Oracle 33]

Success is determined by universal indicators and not some stupid one-liners from bitter online fanboys.

JF-17 is deployed in operational squadrons with a professional airforce (Tick)

Tejas? (X)

Anyways, I am not here to quench your thirst for non-existent indian pride. You want to be proud of Tejas. Fine, go ahead.

I did not respond to you in the first place. I responded to a professional who understands military affairs better than an amateur who comes up with logic like "india doesn't need to bomb india" to describe why Tejas have been operationalized even after 2 decades of development.

Do remember please we faced sanctions and this is the first attempt to establish a aerospace industry.

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Congratulations! on the debut at an international airshow outside India.
The hard work at last paid off.It looks unbeatable ,a mean machine.It has got an immense potential.The continuous up-gradation is only going to make it more lethal and improve it's export potential.
A fine display.And one can expect that as they'll get used to it, they'll only going to extract more and more out of it.
The engineers and the workers who have served their country right and all of their efforts to achieve such a fine machine proved to be fruitful : they are the real assets.And your countrymen have all the more reason to feel proud.

 

[Paksanity]

Pakistan needs JF-17 to bomb Pakistan.
India does not need to bomb India.

That is worth considering, when speaking about failures.

Also, exactly which war was compromised due to lack of Tejas?

So much desperation to sell Gripen to India that you will loose your dignity over it? huh?

JF-17s will gladly bomb anyone or any country in defence of Pakistan if they have to.

 

[Pangu]

Congrats on the performance of the Tejas. This bird looks like it has a very large wing area with regards to the fuselage, must have very respectable lift & turn radius?

 

[Paksanity]

Also, exactly which war was compromised due to lack of Tejas?

Or lack of Gripen!

 

[kaykay]

Superb performance Tejas. Maza aa gaya.....Anyway there's more to come today.

 

[MastanKhan]

No, it doesn't.

"Flying" in object means nothing much. Even gliders fly.

Tejas aren't ready to be deployed yet. They don't "fly" in military sense. They aren't integrated and tested with all the weapons that Indian Air Force wants. They have been in process of "development" for more than 2 decades now!!, yet they failed to achieve the deployment status.

Tejas, as a program, is a failure. However, I'm sure, Indians learnt quite alot through it. Every failure teaches you something, right?

Chinese-Pak JF-17 has been a truly successfully program coming out of that region though. JF-17s are already deployed and have conducted serious operations against insurgents in North-Western Pakistan. If I'm not wrong, JF-17s have now entered their "second" phase as well--that is, an upgradation from block 1 (originally deployed) to a more advance block II with block III in the pipelines.

Pakistan Air Force is flying multiple squadrons of JF-17s in operational roles. Tejas aren't flown by IAF and most likely will never be flown in great numbers.

Btw, can somebody give us the full video of Tejas performance with good camera work?

Sir,

I thank you for the comments-----but you have broken many a hearts. I would like the pakistan members to wear their flak jackets---for the next few days---.

The JF 17 is in the the blk 3 in early production---we should be seeing the examples coming out before the end of the year.

Pakistan needs JF-17 to bomb Pakistan.
India does not need to bomb India.

That is worth considering, when speaking about failures.

Also, exactly which war was compromised due to lack of Tejas?

Hi Cardinal,

That was not a very intelligent post---now wast it!!!!!

 

[Water Car Engineer]

I would like the pakistan members to wear their flak jackets---for the next few days---.
.

He'll need to wear that jacket too then, are you familiar with Safriz?

 

[Dungeness]

No, it doesn't.

"Flying" in object means nothing much. Even gliders fly.

Tejas aren't ready to be deployed yet. They don't "fly" in military sense. They aren't integrated and tested with all the weapons that Indian Air Force wants. They have been in process of "development" for more than 2 decades now!!, yet they failed to achieve the deployment status.

Tejas, as a program, is a failure. However, I'm sure, Indians learnt quite alot through it. Every failure teaches you something, right?

Chinese-Pak JF-17 has been a truly successfully program coming out of that region though. JF-17s are already deployed and have conducted serious operations against insurgents in North-Western Pakistan. If I'm not wrong, JF-17s have now entered their "second" phase as well--that is, an upgradation from block 1 (originally deployed) to a more advance block II with block III in the pipelines.

Pakistan Air Force is flying multiple squadrons of JF-17s in operational roles. Tejas aren't flown by IAF and most likely will never be flown in great numbers.

Btw, can somebody give us the full video of Tejas performance with good camera work?

Don't rain on others parade.

 

[shree835]

Hi,

Please don't give us the sob story of the " learning curve "----. This was a fckd up program right from the begining and has not changed since then. It was to mint money and keep jobs secure for the scientists and enginers and they succeeded.

How many batches of employees retired on this project!!!!!

So---at 30 years plus---the scientist saw the mood of the nation and said---we cannot stretch it anymore---.

BFD---so an elephant would fly after 30 years---if it had gone thru all those modifications.



Hi,

We are silent at your stupidity---a 30 years old project now flying at a foreign airshow for the very first time yesterday---you guys ought to die in shame---at the level of your incompetence.

Chicha....You will not understand that what it takes when you are making something by your own... reason is till date you have not made a simple motor by yourself.....I will tell you MAKE IT TO BELIEVE IT.

No, it doesn't.

"Flying" in object means nothing much. Even gliders fly.

Tejas aren't ready to be deployed yet. They don't "fly" in military sense. They aren't integrated and tested with all the weapons that Indian Air Force wants. They have been in process of "development" for more than 2 decades now!!, yet they failed to achieve the deployment status.

Tejas, as a program, is a failure. However, I'm sure, Indians learnt quite alot through it. Every failure teaches you something, right?

Chinese-Pak JF-17 has been a truly successfully program coming out of that region though. JF-17s are already deployed and have conducted serious operations against insurgents in North-Western Pakistan. If I'm not wrong, JF-17s have now entered their "second" phase as well--that is, an upgradation from block 1 (originally deployed) to a more advance block II with block III in the pipelines.

Pakistan Air Force is flying multiple squadrons of JF-17s in operational roles. Tejas aren't flown by IAF and most likely will never be flown in great numbers.

Btw, can somebody give us the full video of Tejas performance with good camera work?

When you don know something ...you should not poke your nose there...

 

[MastanKhan]

Chicha....You will not understand that what it takes when you are making something by your own... reason is till date you have not made a simple motor by yourself.....I will tell you MAKE IT TO BELIEVE IT.

Hi,

I do very well understand the engineering part. I was in engineering school here in the U S possibly even before you were born.

Americans and france and russians make helicopters---do you know why the blades on one turn clockwise and on the other they turn anti clockwise!

 

[shree835]

Hi,

I do very well understand the engineering part. I was in engineering school here in the U S possibly even before you were born.

Americans and france and russians make helicopters---do you know why the blades on one turn clockwise and on the other they turn anti clockwise!

CHICHA...Do you know why your country is not able to make a simple motor till date....Even after 68 years of independence....Go and teach your countryman about clockwise and anti clockwise.

 

[somebozo]

Apparently the PAF paid a $500,000 USD non-refundable deposit to reserve the 2 parking slots though. I'm not saying the Thunder didn't come becausr the LCA was there but it certainly seems like the decsion not to go was last minuet until a few days ago the Thunder was listed on the BIAS website as attending.

While Two of India’s homegrown LCA-Tejas fighter jet have been busy practicing for the Bahrain airshow at its first International outing, participation of Sino-Pak developed JF-17 are yet to be confirmed by Organizers while informed sources in Pakistan Air Force have informed few Pakistani Defence Portals that due to prior commitments, JF-17 might skip this year’s Bahrain International Air Show which begins today.

Organizers of Bahrain International Airshow have been trying hard to confirm the participation of JF-17 operated by PAF for some time now and had already allocated parking space bay next to Indian LCA-Tejas which fuelled much-anticipated showdown between fighters developed by Arch rivals which will see the bulk of Aerial action if India and Pakistan ever go to war again.

Pakistan Air Force operated JF-17 have been quite regular at Bahrain International Airshow and have thrilled audiences with its Aerobatic manoeuvres in last three edition of the Airshow but a No show when India is sending its LCA-Tejas to Bahrain International Airshow for the first time will only fuel arguments in defence forums of been given Indian LCA-Tejas a walkover by its Rival.

Responding to Question been asked about the participation of JF-17 in Bahrain Airshow, the official Twitter handle of Bahrain International Airshow till now only confirmed Static Display of JF-17 which means it won’t be flying, which will disappoint many International Aeronautic observers and Analyst to closely observe both planes to settle decade-old dispute between rivals on who has developed a superior plane.

LCA-Tejas recently received major upgrade to its software blocks which allowed it to pull beyond 8Gs and cleared it to perform manoeuvres which were never seen before. LCA-Tejas after coming back will also test fire Derby BVRAAM missiles which is one of the key requirements in its FOC Certification.


LCA Tejas Vs JF-17: Lack of Clarity on Participation of JF-17 cast doubts on Big fight

Perhaps the Chinese ordered the pull out because they dont want to be into mud slinging with Indians...Also it says the exhibitor allocated spot next to LCA for the JF17 which is against the exhibition rules because an exhibitor is free to choose their spot..I have once cancelled participation at a show because the exhibitor wanted to locate me near a spot i dont feel comfortable..so I gave them a spot on decision..cancel and refund..

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Get a life. No seriously.

Anyone got a link of official or better quality video?

Dude

Hi,

Please don't give us the sob story of the " learning curve "----. This was a fckd up program right from the begining and has not changed since then. It was to mint money and keep jobs secure for the scientists and enginers and they succeeded.

How many batches of employees retired on this project!!!!!

So---at 30 years plus---the scientist saw the mood of the nation and said---we cannot stretch it anymore---.

BFD---so an elephant would fly after 30 years---if it had gone thru all those modifications.



Hi,

We are silent at your stupidity---a 30 years old project now flying at a foreign airshow for the very first time yesterday---you guys ought to die in shame---at the level of your incompetence.

Far from being f*cked up it is already one of the most successful jets of it's class in the world. '30 year old jet' is a stupid and nonsense assertion. They never asked for AESA etc. in the requirements 30 years ago.

 

[MastanKhan]

CHICHA. .

What does this word mean!