Awans - Apparently a sub-clan of the Khattaks?

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I think Janjuas also claim descent from Hastinapur, Uttar Pradesh? Most peoples origin stories are not accurate anyways.

Janjus dont claim any arabs or persian ancestry . They are Rajputs and openly admit their Hindu ancestry

 

[xairhossi]

Janjus dont claim any arabs or persian ancestry . They are Rajputs and openly admit their Hindu ancestry

I am talking about regions not religion (UP is a region). Potohar was Gandharan Buddhist for most of its history anyway.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I am talking about regions not religion (UP is a region). Potohar was Gandharan Buddhist for most of its history anyway.

JANJUA WERE.NATIVE PEOPLE OF THIS LAND ANS DID NOT COME FROM ANYWHERE
www.quora.com/What-is-the-history-of-Janjua-Rajputs

 

[xairhossi]

JANJUA WERE.NATIVE PEOPLE OF THIS LAND ANS DID NOT COME FROM ANYWHERE
www.quora.com/What-is-the-history-of-Janjua-Rajputs

Depends on what you define as 'native'? Even Vedic Aryans were not native to this land. They were Central Asian/Eastern European invaders from the Pontic steppe. Yet every Hindu claims descent from them.
This native vs non-native makes no sense. Technically only the South Indian tribals and Andamanese are native to South Asia.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Depends on what you define as 'native'? Even Vedic Aryans were not native to this land. They were Central Asian/Eastern European invaders from the Pontic steppe. Yet every Hindu claims descent from them.
This native vs non-native makes no sense. Technically only the South Indian tribals and Andamanese are native to South Asia.

I dont want to derail this topic towards janjua or Rajputs so better we stick to awans right now . My previous post was just to get the understanding of this Arab claim from genetic point of views because its difficult for me to comprehend

 

[xairhossi]

I dont want to derail this topic towards janjua or Rajputs so better we stick to awans right now . My previous post was just to get the understanding of this Arab claim from genetic point of views because its difficult for me to comprehend

Yes, I think if more of them take genetic tests we would have a clearer picture

 

[Kabira]

Yes, I think if more of them take genetic tests we would have a clearer picture

Here is another from Mandi Bahauddin. half awan half gondal results
Harappa World:
S-Indian 30.57
Baloch 43.75
Caucasian 12.10
NE-Euro 9.36
Siberian 0.51
NE-Asian 0.09
Papuan 0.27
American 0.48
Beringian 0.83
Mediterranean 0.15
SW-Asian 1.90

This also has bit higher Baloch component. Maybe that south punjab malik is likely awan as well. In British era some people from upper punjab did settle in seraiki areas. Like famous terrorists from south punjab, one Basra and other awan. Both these tribes are mostly found in upper punjab areas.

 

[xairhossi]

Here is another from Mandi Bahauddin. half awan half gondal results
Harappa World:
S-Indian 30.57
Baloch 43.75
Caucasian 12.10
NE-Euro 9.36
Siberian 0.51
NE-Asian 0.09
Papuan 0.27
American 0.48
Beringian 0.83
Mediterranean 0.15
SW-Asian 1.90

This also has bit higher Baloch component. Maybe that south punjab malik is likely awan as well. In British era some people from upper punjab did settle in seraiki areas. Like famous terrorists from south punjab, one Basra and other awan. Both these tribes are mostly found in upper punjab areas.

His Y-Dna is J2 as well, which is interesting. I know Awans from Multan, not sure if they are native to the region. Also there are Basras from Bahawalnagar, if that is considered South Punjab. That Gujjar sample also had high Baloch, it turns into high South_Central Asian in other calculators and "Central Asian" on ftdna but not much West Asian affinity.

 

[Kabira]

His Y-Dna is J2 as well, which is interesting. I know Awans from Multan, not sure if they are native to the region. Also there are Basras from Bahawalnagar, if that is considered South Punjab. That Gujjar sample also had high Baloch, it turns into high South_Central Asian in other calculators and "Central Asian" on ftdna but not much West Asian affinity.

They are likely recent migrants because even PPP Shoukat Basra from south punjab speak majhi punjabi.

 

[Awan68]

Aman is a different cast mery bhai, its has nothing to do with awan, awan's are arab to the core directly descended from hazrat ali(ra) second wife, i know the history of my clan and how the knowledge is passed down about our anscentary genration after generation, the origin of awans lies in the abdals, the abdals among whom are choosem the abdals of sham who are ever present as the standard bearers of good against evil their leader being called qutb hence people here wrongly assume two clans among awans the abdals and the qutb shahi while in reality all awans are basically abdals while qutb is an individual who is the leader of abdals, awan is a tile bestwoed by ghaznavi or ghauri(i've forgotten exactly who), awans are basically abdals, linked to the blessed lineage among whom the 40 abdals of sham are selected and @Proudpakistaniguy maliks are not awans, malik is just a title like chaudry bestowed upin landowners in villages, malik is wrongly associate with awans, awans is a cast while a malik is just a tile, a hazara or a raja cab be a malik, and lol no woman of an awan can ever be a veena malik, honour decenecy ,integrity and valour is more important to us awans than life it self....

 

[Pakistani E]

God forgive me, this was supposed to be a troll thread, yet it's still going strong.