Australian Opposition Vows Uranium Sales To India

[Developereo]

This not the first time the opposition has raised this issue.They raised this before when India-Canada signed a nuke deal.
Do you think the Liberals can win this this time considering that people did hate Kevin Rudd for being too pro-China?

Liberals will probably win despite the fact that their leader Tony Abbot is a clueless moron who has made any number of gaffes about hitech, disabled people and senior citizens.

The Labor leader Julia Gillard only got the top job after some nasty, high-profile backstabbing in the party which has bruised the party and is still fresh in people's minds. Also she is running the losing strategy of letting her opponent set the agenda by pandering to the right and trying to co-opt their issues. This is idiotic because the xenophobic right is firmly in the Liberal camp and all she is doing is alienating centrists and center-leftists. Although, to be fair, this strategy is not as risky as it might be in the US becasue voting is mandatory in Australia so disaffected centrist voters can't just sit it out. They will have to vote, and probably Labor, albeit grudgingly.

Who cares whether they are pro-US or pro-Jupiter as long as the Uranium reaches our shores.

Quite correct but, as I pointed out, it is not Indian money but American interests which are at play here. Australian economy is highly dependent on Chinese demand of our natural resources and there is no fear of Chinese demand abating any time soon.

I doubt this has anything to do with us, perhaps this is being done to appease Australians of Indian origin, I understand they represent a sizable minority.

Balancing US and Chinese concerns are a very important subtext in Australian foreign policy. Labor tends to be more Asia-Pacific focussed, while Liberals tend to be more Euro/West oriented. There is a decidedly 'white' tinge to Liberal policies.

Most Australians of Indian origin tend to live in electorates which are heavily Labor anyway, so there is no point in Liberals pandering to them.

 

[xdrive]

Well they'd have come around sooner or later. Money talks.

It's not a done deal, they have to win first.

first, British PM Cameron's endorsement of India's concern over Pakistan bred terrorism, Now, Australia bending it's knees to India for larger trade cooperation, seems India is gathering momentum to march ahead to be Superpower!!

Re read the news article. The opposition has to win the election first. The current governments policy still remains the same.

Also it's not "giving in" don't act like you are all mighty and powerful and we have been overpowered or something. The only reason the opposition wants to sell uranium is because they think it's good for Australia, not because they are being forced too.

Its not about bending knees in front of India.

This is just pure business my friends! If they delay they would lose access to a lucrative export market.

Exactly.

The other guy was talking like India threatened us and we gave into their demands. It's pure business.

The opposition Liberal party is much more pro-US than the ruling Labor party. They are supporting India only because that's what Uncle Sam wants as part of its anti-China policy; it has nothing to do with India per se.

It's got nothing to do with alliances. The liberal party are strong capitalists, they wouldn't miss an opportunity to make money for the life of them.

I doubt this has anything to do with us, perhaps this is being done to appease Australians of Indian origin, I understand they represent a sizable minority.

It's got nothing to do with any country, it's all about money, it's all about whats good for the Australian economy.

 

[KS]

Quite correct but, as I pointed out, it is not Indian money but American interests which are at play here. Australian economy is highly dependent on Chinese demand of our natural resources and there is no fear of Chinese demand abating any time soon.

Wat u said may be partially correct..because it is not so much a political decision as a pure economic/business one.

Especially after India signed the nuke deal with Canada (a huge source of Uranium themselves) there was not-so-muffled protests from various political parties and industry heads that Australia is loosing a potentially huge market for their uranium to their outdated NPT principles.

A extract from an australian source - Link

The decision to sell Uranium was not the choice of few Liberal Party members, but was based on the inputs from independent think tanks and bureaucracy in Australia which clearly saw the need to engage India and wanted to realise the unlimited potential of Uranium exports. By refusing to sell Uranium to India Labour has lost a big opportunity and failed to exploit the advantage Australian companies had in this sector and put Australian exporters at a disadvantage. Australia has lost a major export market due to Labour attitudes. During this time India has signed agreements with Canada and Kazakhstan for allowing supplies to fuel nuclear power plants in India

 

[Developereo]

It's not just about money.

It's not as if we are short of buyers for our uranium: China and Russia can buy up all the uranium Australia has to offer -- at premium rates. The decision to sell to India reflects the foreign policy leanings of the Liberal party.

PS. Think tanks can be safely ignored; you put in money and you get the conclusions that you paid for.

 

[Ishan]

The opposition Liberal party is much more pro-US than the ruling Labor party. They are supporting India only because that's what Uncle Sam wants as part of its anti-China policy; it has nothing to do with India per se.

Why do many Pakistanis Undermine India's Growing Importance as nothing but becoz of Anti-China Policy..

Wake Up Soon.. Your Neighbour is no more Ordinary

 

[Developereo]

Why do many Pakistanis Undermine India's Growing Importance as nothing but becoz of Anti-China Policy..

Nobody's denying India's growing economy, but the issue of uranium sales has much more to it than just money.

Wake Up Soon.. Your Neighbour is no more Ordinary

Indeed. Our neighbor, the next superpower, is our all-weather friend.

 

[Ishan]

Nobody's denying India's growing economy, but the issue of uranium sales has much more to it than just money.


Indeed. Our neighbor, the next superpower, is our all-weather friend.

Out of uranium two things can be doen.. To make Nuke bombs or to generate electricity.. We want to generate electricity.. So their opposition is sensible as to why loose $250 Bn India;s nulcear Market..


As they Say " U cant Predict Weather" Dont trust China so much only to realise tht it Pakistan became a Victim of Great Chinese Game Plan

 

[nanmun]

Economy is going to be the next biggest powerful weapon.

In fact ... US has become a super power because of the wealth it amassed! As we grow our economy ... so will our importance increases

Regarding uranium sales ... sale to India is only confined to the reactors that are under IAEA monitoring. Also, countries don't face much problem because they see India as a safer bet comparatively because of its Non-proliferation history (I agree that it used for its own gains but didn't behave as a rouge country by selling it to rouge countries!)

 

[Ishan]

@ Develepreo

As China Realises and as Even India grow Stronger in Economy and militarily.. Tht it makes no sense to Pinch India by supporting India's Enemies.. The Realtionship will tilt and more stronger India-China Ties will Grow

We already have 50 Bn$ Trade Relations.. If China Addresses India' Concern which it is not and does not want of arming pakistan but if tht happens and if India makes it happens than Pakistan wud be in a Mess as all its strategy of Relying on China wud be dampened

 

[KS]

It's not just about money.

It's not as if we are short of buyers for our uranium: China and Russia can buy up all the uranium Australia has to offer -- at premium rates. The decision to sell to India reflects the foreign policy leanings of the Liberal party.

PS. Think tanks can be safely ignored; you put in money and you get the conclusions that you paid for.

thats wat i too said..its not abt one thing...its both political and economic.

And dont think just because Russia and Chna will buy the Uranium on offer Aussie mine owners will not look for new markets.

infact I believ the industry pressure to be one of the major factors behind this move.

 

[Developereo]

Dont trust China so much

India-China Ties will Grow

Sigh. Here we go again...

 

[mikkix]

All evils joining hands to counter the truth but will collapse like cards..

 

[somebozo]

The Indian importance is growing day by day. Buy why do Indians want to import uranium when they favor their indigenous thorium fuel cycle??

 

[xdrive]

Can everyone actually stay on topic? This is not a discussion on which country is more powerful, discussions like these are boring and stupid.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

The Indian importance is growing day by day. Buy why do Indians want to import uranium when they favor their indigenous thorium fuel cycle??

The reactors that use Thorium as of fuel are more expensive,as of now we only have a prototype of it.Until we are sure that the Fast breeder reactors are safe,economical and sustainable for India,which might take 5-10(minimum) years we are going to primarily depend upon the Uranium based ones.