Attack on PNS Mehran Base - PAF Faisal Base

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[Omar1984]

Hi, this image says it all. Pakistan needs to realize the threat to it comes from within, from fundamentalists and corruption, and not externally.

Threat comes from both internally and externally. To completely turn a blind eye on external threats would be naive and dangerous for a country like Pakistan.

 

[muse]

In Mumbai notonly we had no time to respond but also the targets were spread across the city in different buildings. Even the no: of terrorists were a mystery until the last moments. Inspite all this shortcomings our security agencies did a great job. Thats why Mumbai attack and its response are being used as a template by many foreign governments to train their security forces.

The Indian did a terrible job - their security forces were a disaster, the worst part of it was to treat the attack like a show - the terrorists disrupted an entire city, killed without fear and ultimately succeeded in their mission.

Anyway, lets keep our focus - if Pakistanis are prone to seeking succor in denial, our Indian friends seek it in empty triumphalism - both are unsatisfactory responses to a bitter reality

 

[Ajaxpaul]

I am just being realistic here. If the Pakistani navy can not protect its base in the former capital of Pakistan and the largest city of Pakistan, then how can Pakistani navy protect Pakistan from invading armies of Indians or Americans in the coast of Balochistan and Sindh?


China is the only country that Pakistan shares all strategic interests in the region with and is the most powerful country in Asia. China has spent billions of dollars in projects and its investments and interests in Pakistan that it wants to protect. Pakistan needs a Chinese naval base in Pakistan more than China needs it. This event have clearly shown that. No other power, except China, can be trusted with Pakistan's strategic interests.

Have you seen the plight of Japan after they gave land to their allies. Japan cannot do anything without US approval. Do you want pakistan to be like that. You might argue that china will never do things like that. After they have set up a base in pakistan,the game will be played between China, India, US and Russia. Pakistan will suffer as china will not be able to withdraw to protect its strategic interests.

This is the reason why India did not allow even Russia to have a base here in our land.

 

[Abu Basit]

The Nation: A CIA-RAW-Mossad Pseudo-Taliban Countergang

One way to provide the provocation needed to justify a US-Indian attack on Pakistan would be through an increase in terrorist actions attributable to the so-called Taliban. According to the mainstream Pakistani media, the CIA, the Israeli Mossad, and the Indian RAW (Research and Analysis Wing) have created their own version of the Taliban in the form of a terrorist countergang which they control and direct.

According to one account, “Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operatives have infiltrated the Taliban and Al-Qaeda networks, and have created their own Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) force in order to destabilize Pakistan.” The former Punjab Regional Commander of the Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI), retired Brigadier General Aslam Ghuman, commented: “During my visit to the US, I learned that the Israeli spy agency Mossad, in connivance with Indian agency RAW, under the direct supervision of CIA, planned to destabilize Pakistan at any cost.”12 Was this countergang responsible for last week’s double bombing in Waziristan, which killed 80 paramilitary police?


According to the same account, Russian intelligence “disclosed that CIA contractor Raymond Davis and his network had provided Al-Qaeda operatives with chemical, nuclear and biological weapons, so that US installations may be targeted and Pakistan be blamed….” Davis, a JSOC veteran himself, was arrested for the murder of two ISI agents, but then released by the Pakistani government after a suspicious hue and cry by the State Department.

US, Pakistan Near Open War; Chinese Ultimatum Warns Washington Against Attack « TARPLEY.net

 

[muse]

the comedy relief - just in time

 

[Nothing]

The Nation: A CIA-RAW-Mossad Pseudo-Taliban Countergang

One way to provide the provocation needed to justify a US-Indian attack on Pakistan would be through an increase in terrorist actions attributable to the so-called Taliban. According to the mainstream Pakistani media, the CIA, the Israeli Mossad, and the Indian RAW (Research and Analysis Wing) have created their own version of the Taliban in the form of a terrorist countergang which they control and direct.

According to one account, “Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operatives have infiltrated the Taliban and Al-Qaeda networks, and have created their own Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) force in order to destabilize Pakistan.” The former Punjab Regional Commander of the Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI), retired Brigadier General Aslam Ghuman, commented: “During my visit to the US, I learned that the Israeli spy agency Mossad, in connivance with Indian agency RAW, under the direct supervision of CIA, planned to destabilize Pakistan at any cost.”12 Was this countergang responsible for last week’s double bombing in Waziristan, which killed 80 paramilitary police?


According to the same account, Russian intelligence “disclosed that CIA contractor Raymond Davis and his network had provided Al-Qaeda operatives with chemical, nuclear and biological weapons, so that US installations may be targeted and Pakistan be blamed….” Davis, a JSOC veteran himself, was arrested for the murder of two ISI agents, but then released by the Pakistani government after a suspicious hue and cry by the State Department.

US, Pakistan Near Open War; Chinese Ultimatum Warns Washington Against Attack « TARPLEY.net

Go post this in jokes section ... here people are doing some serious discussion...

 

[huzihaidao12]

Have you seen the plight of Japan after they gave land to their allies. Japan cannot do anything without US approval. Do you want pakistan to be like that. You might argue that china will never do things like that. After they have set up a base in pakistan,the game will be played between China, India, US and Russia. Pakistan will suffer as china will not be able to withdraw to protect its strategic interests.

This is the reason why India did not allow even Russia to have a base here in our land.

China is only by the management authority, but also time restrictions. and the relationship between China and Pakistan is based on the basis of mutual respect and mutual interests, China is not the United States.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

Atleast Russians had only one building with all the hostages kept inside the big hall. They had specific knowledge about the terrorists and the weapons they carried, through the video released by the Chechens. Also Russians had one thing that Indians lacked-TIME. Russians prepared for the attack, eventhen they had collateral damage.

In Mumbai notonly we had no time to respond but also the targets were spread across the city in different buildings. Even the no: of terrorists were a mystery until the last moments. Inspite all this shortcomings our security agencies did a great job. Thats why Mumbai attack and its response are being used as a template by many foreign governments to train their security forces.

Doesn't it sound pathetic ?---no time, not prepared, do not have plans of building, have to take approval.....why should ordinary people pay with their blood? dont they have right to live ?

 

[kingkobra]

The Indian did a terrible job - their security forces were a disaster, the worst part of it was to treat the attack like a show - the terrorists disrupted an entire city, killed without fear and ultimately succeeded in their mission.

Anyway, lets keep our focus - if Pakistanis are prone to seeking succor in denial, our Indian friends seek it in empty triumphalism - both are unsatisfactory responses to a bitter reality

it happned because of our police force was not prepared for such attacks...weapons they use were almost useless...they never had training to deal with such attacks...now after those attacks Home ministry of Maharashtra has taken serious measures to modernize and train its forces..

 

[Rank]

everyone knows that India Isreal and American (America controlled by pro Anti Pakistani). They are destablizing Pakistan since last 10 years. Not only them our Military generals and Govts helping these terrorist organization who are working on the name of culture (so called consulates) near Pak Afghan Border.

Right now first step should be PAF should take massive ground attack inside afghanistan and put blame on to the afghanistan that.. All these terrorist organizations funded from Afghanistan into Pakistan ... on each and every attack PAF should take strike inside afghanistan simple! and put pressure on Afghanistan that all these terrorist organizations like Mossad RAW CIA are working under US umbrella in Afghanistan because of that Pakistan is suffering!...

Now play the game properly!

 

[President Camacho]

Thats why Mumbai attack and its response are being used as a template by many foreign governments to train their security forces.

The template of only the incident, and not the pathetic and slow counter-strategy displayed by the Indian security forces.


10 men come, and manage to kill 176... they did a century man! Indians love to say how they have continuously been attacked by terrorists... then where was the preparedness? Why do you say it was a surprise attack? Utter failure by our intel agancies, and subsequently by our security forces, and then by our media, and finally by our ministers who didn't mind becoming a tour guide at the hotel for movie producers.

Whenever you think Indians managed it well, first thing to come to your mind should be the number - 176 !!!

 

[huzihaidao12]

This is a special operations than terrorism. My personal point of view.

 

[Rank]

Go post this in jokes section ... here people are doing some serious discussion...

Dont need put news into joke section we already have US affair and Indian Military section (two section of full jokes) enough for single forum!

 

[muse]

now after those attacks Home ministry of Maharashtra has taken serious measures to modernize and train its forces.

Well, in this case we have SSGN I should imagine -- but note that non-soldiers have managed to keep these Pakistani troops on the back foot -- and lest see if there will be any kind of reform in Pakistan -- my take on it is that there will not be - After all, we are perfect, why we need criticism and reform and retraining?