Attack on PNS Mehran Base - PAF Faisal Base

[farhan_9909]

one terrorist shot down itself

 

[Areesh]

Unless of course Baitullah and Hakimullah are ethnic Russians, yes, Pakistan's enemies are from within the tribals - Hakimullah, a Mehsud or a brahmin??

And their are many punjabi and urdu speakers also who are associated with these groups. What we should do now. Kill all tribals, punjabis and urdu speakers.

 

[Dance]

Nope. Pakistan isn't going to become sudan if we get out of this war but if we remain part of this war we will definitely be sudan or somalia or afghanistan(if Pakistan exist). a common Pakistani doesn't agree with the ideology of TTP but they also don't like America's invasion of Pakistani territory. It is because of Pakistani establishment's continuous slavery to America that is increasing support for these terrorists. If we minus America from this equation I don't think their would be any Pakistani who would support these guys. We have to get out of this stupid war. It is leading us to a total disaster.

Okay lets say Pakistan stops cooperation with America. What about the TTP and their bombings, what happens if they doesn't stop after we say we will not cooperate with America? What are we going to do? I'm against Pakistan fighting for American interests but Pakistan isn't even fighting for its own interests

 

[sid426]

Only if Pakistan works in desisting terrorism of all forms only than it can boast of having a peaceful,multi cultural society.

One who uses violence to make his claims is a terrorist and all the 'strategic assets' of PA should be disbanded and disarmed.


Resist Violence, condemn it instead of using it for short sighted gains.

 

[All-Green]

can Pakistan really guarantee the safety of its nuclear establishments now as well ?

Yes it can, as much as anyone else can anyways.
What absolute guarantee is there for any other country?
Lots of weapons grade material is not accounted for after USSR was split up as well...certainly there are no guarantees.
Even USA has had few incidents where nuclear weapons were not really secure and the crew did not even know that nukes were being transported!
U.S. nuclear weapons security--a "silly" notion | Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

and there have been information leaks as well.
Nuclear weapons agency chief quits over lapses | Reuters

Many countries went nuclear (India, Pakistan, Israel) and got parts from here and there despite a ban on such transfers, there were indeed people sitting in the developed world who were willing to sell something...so what if the terrorists are the buyers in future?
There are no guarantees in this world.

Nuclear security protocol is very different.
Usually the shoot first and ask questions later kind of security.

There are other strategies in place as well.
Nukes are supposed to be stored in areas which are physically much more isolated and far from populations centers.
Unknown faces are treated as suspicious whether in uniform or not.
Different components are not supposed to be at one place
Authorization codes are complex and known to few people in parts and not as a whole.
There are a lot of different SOPs particular to Pakistan which i am certainly not aware of but certainly there is a significant planning done in this regards since the threat could have been from any organization.

As opposed to this, many of the cantonments and bases in Pakistan are not isolated and this is indeed a problem which makes it difficult to simplify the security.
As the cities have grown, the residential/industrial areas have surrounded the cantonments which were once far off from the main cities.
It makes it impossible to implement the shoot first strategy at the perimeter boundary as a civilian will be stopped and questioned first, instead of being killed in cold blood!
...Giving him an advantage if he is actually a terrorist.

 

[Zarvan]

Exactly the choice this operation is designed to force Pakistani politics into -- and now look at the prescription - first make the enemy an ally --- and then go after.... who ??

all right than keep on fighting them for next 100 years at least because I assure you that they have a great stamina of fighting you for next 100 years because Patahan always remains a Patahan

 

[Dance]

One reporter on twitter who is on site is saying: 'It's been quiet for the past 40 minutes. Possible security forces are clearing the area. Haven't heard gunfire/explosions."

 

[Zarvan]

Madam* I personally think that even if America withdraws or we end our cooperation with them they will still keep attacking us, which is why we need to finish them off.The tribes in FATA are mostly our allies, they have have born the brunt of the taliban the most out of everyone in Pakistan.

sir they will not attack you than whole world knows and than you can take help of MULLAH OMAR in exposing this TTP and this will help you a lot a lot and second think I am a male not madam

 

[Areesh]

Okay lets say Pakistan stops cooperation with America. What about the TTP and their bombings, what happens if they doesn't stop after we say we will not cooperate with America? What are we going to do? I'm against Pakistan fighting for American interests but Pakistan isn't even fighting for its own interests

You know Dance. After Pakistan ends cooperation with USA on WOT TTP won't have any reason for these bombings. Even today when they claimed responsibility of these attacks they said we conducted these attacks because of Pakistan's slavery to USA. They say we are fighting against America and it's "agents". They consider us the agents. They consider our military to be mercenaries. We have to remove this label from our forehead. Even after that if they continue their activities their would be more consensus among the Pakistanis against them.

 

[farhan_9909]

terrorists has security offricers entry cards

seems like inside job

 

[IndianTiger]

Two P-3C Orion planes, supplied by
U.S, destroyed in
attack. Reports:
Pakistan Taliban claim
responsibility for
Karachi attack

 

[sid426]

any new updates?

 

[Roby]

may the dead RIP

 

[Dance]

You know Dance. After Pakistan ends cooperation with USA on WOT TTP won't have any reason for these bombings. Even today when they claimed responsibility of these attacks they said we conducted these attacks because of Pakistan's slavery to USA. They say we are fighting against America and it's "agents". They consider us the agents. They consider our military to be mercenaries. We have to remove this label from our forehead. Even after that if they continue their activities their would be more consensus among the Pakistanis against them.

But are these TTP scums to be trusted? They have no trouble in killing innocent people around Pakistan and remember the the whole Swat fiasco? Should we trust them enough that they won't harm us if we stop cooperating with America? With the Swat deal they didn't keep their promise, why would they keep any other promises? There should be a strict consenus against the TTP and if there are any Pakistanis STILL supporting them then they are the lowest of the low.

 

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