Attack on PAF Base Minhas

[Irfan Baloch]

May be Pakistan's supply to Afghan Taliban is finding its way into the hands of TTP.. After all, they are part of the same network (despite to nonsensical classification of good taliban and bad taliban )

can be true in this sense but not in Sawati taliban

their factories and depots with Semtex and C4 were at par with our own factories. something that even we have to work our way round to get finances of such quantity.
that yellow cake, cheese thing looks like Semtex even hard to come by.

 

[Safriz]

by the way

the pictures above of Saab aircrafts mean nothing, they can be old ones. lets wait and see when the real damage will be admitted.

RGP is a not a fire cracker. its area of effect is considerable and so is its damage. if it landed within 10 or 20 meters of the plane then it must have done some damage, I dont have hard figures of a typical blast radius of RPG, terrorists would have used an HEAT or fragmentation round and I guess the later would have a bigger splash.

PAF would do a good job if it discloses the facts earlier because the media will remain on the case and will eventually find out.

Wiki says Lethal radius is 7 to 10 meters....

 

[Jango]

thats a kill range.. RPG-7 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Range Percent
50 m 100%
100 m 96 %
200 m 51 %
300 m 22 %
400 m 9 %
500 m 4 %

The thing here is that if it indeed was from this close, it means that the terrorists infiltrated. 3 killed early, 1 suicide, 5 left.

 

[Safriz]

thats a kill range.. RPG-7 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Range Percent
50 m 100%
100 m 96 %
200 m 51 %
300 m 22 %
400 m 9 %
500 m 4 %

Thats hit probability..Or accuracy....

The lethal blast radius is 7 to 10 meters...

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Thats hit probability..Or accuracy....

The lethal blast radius is 7 to 10 meters...

lethal for personal I guess and that too only 2 types of rounds. there is nothing given for fragmentation round or heavy explosive one which I think will have a bigger splash than 7-10 meters.

 

[Safriz]

The thing here is that if it indeed was from this close, it means that the terrorists infiltrated. 3 killed early, 1 suicide, 5 left.

This picture was posted by a member Roybot a few pages ago..

The fuel tanks were the ones initially hit by RPG...and thats the probable hanger that was targeted by attackers...
It is less than 100 metes from boundary wall..But to take a clear shot,one will have to come in the clear as too many trees around...

 

[SEAL]

I am worried about that 1% :S

Well you can ignore this point in 1% that the aircraft is completely totalled.

 

[Windjammer]

by the way

the pictures above of Saab aircrafts mean nothing, they can be old ones. lets wait and see when the real damage will be admitted.

RGP is a not a fire cracker. its area of effect is considerable and so is its damage. if it landed within 10 or 20 meters of the plane then it must have done some damage, I dont have hard figures of a typical blast radius of RPG, terrorists would have used an HEAT or fragmentation round and I guess the later would have a bigger splash.

PAF would do a good job if it discloses the facts earlier because the media will remain on the case and will eventually find out.

Albeit, nothing to prove that it was a SAAB aircraft, however, those images are just the photo shoot of the induction ceremony.
Even if the landing gear of the concerned aircraft got caught in the blast, that would be considered as damaged, the guy told me the concerned person are assessing the damage and he simply put it, it's not too little or too great.
The main thing is albeit, it was a surprise attack, the culprits were stopped before they could reach any facility.
If you recall Mehran, the attackers managed to get into the buildings and the siege ended only after an SSG company with corner shot guns was flown in from Tarbela.

 

[Jango]

The TV said that they entered from the west of this area, parallel of the runway, where the village is closest and a hill is present.

 

[tarrar]

This Rahman Malik is 100% US puppet when it was declared that these terrorists are foreigners then he comes up with US report & he read US script by saying 4 of them were from NWA, BullSh*t.

 

[Dazzler]

Goodness, the thread has turned into a sheer rumour mill without any spec of evidence! I stick to what i heard and reported earlier, but i see so many unnecessary posts and even more unnecessary fears creeping people out! Relax a little folks, the moment u see a picture of so called destroyed Saab, then curse PAF as much as you can, till then, take rumours with a pinch of salt.

 

[Jango]

Albeit, nothing to prove that it was a SAAB aircraft, however, those images are just the photo shoot of the induction ceremony.
Even if the landing gear of the concerned aircraft got caught in the blast, that would be considered as damaged, the guy told me the concerned person are assessing the damage and he simply put it, it's not too little or too great.
The main thing is albeit, it was a surprise attack, the culprits were stopped before they could reach any facility.
If you recall Mehran, the attackers managed to get into the buildings and the siege ended only after an SSG company with corner shot guns was flown in from Tarbela.

It indeed was a very quick reaction.

The sentry Asif caught them very very early, the QRF reacted quickly, and the 2IC was by luck, already there for Sehri. Better reactions this time, all were killed very early, although they did manage to get some damage to the aircraft, they were suppressed early.

Air Marshal Athar Hussain made the head of investigation team. Just in.

 

[Roybot]

One more myth has been busted in this attack..That is DIY explosives....
Even Afghan government has been blaming Pakistan of not "Securing" Ammonium nitrate fertilizer ands claimin that all terrorists use Ammonium nitrate derived Explosives..
But look at this..

what they have strapped to their chests is no home made ANFO..
Its proper High explosive..Military grade...

who is giving them such specialist military equipment?

It cant be from a Mule's back side..

It looks like Semtex. Its actually a "commercial grade" plastic explosive, used extensively in the mining and demolition industry. Can't be that hard to procure, in Pakistan.

 

[Jango]

Aircraft is not destroyed. It is damaged. The early conclusion by the officials was that it was very much damaged and maybe written off, but now it has been ascertained that it is damaged, and is repairable.

I agree that it was wrong in my earlier posts that it was destroyed, but that was the initial assessment by some there.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

Three points against theory of Indian involvement,

1. Indian intelligence agencies are not that stupid to attack installations that will direct the blame back to India.
2. Indian think tanks are only worried about nuclear assets of Pakistan and the rest focus is currently on China. d
3. Think from angle of TTP, they do not want that Pakistani army start operation on them. Their sworn oath is turn Pakistan into true islamic nation, so they would want Pakistan to focus on its eastern front rather than on western front. So they can choose the targets that can affect India-Pakistan relations badly and turn Pakistani publics opinion from terrorism to India.
TTP has quite succeeded on their plan as seen on 52 pages of this thread, 99% members are blaming India for attack.

Last but not least, Indian leaders are currently focussed on developing country in technological and economical terms.