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ATAGS 155-mm, 52-calibre gun-howitzer fired three shells out to a WORLD RECORD distance of 47.2 KM

So what is the fire speed of the successor gun ?

The Archer fires 8-9 rounds per minute with a 21 round magazine.
It reloads in 8 minutes, so it has a sustained speed of 21/(21/9 + 8) = 2,03 rounds per minute.
For the ATAGS to keep up, it must be able to reload the magazine in 2 minutes and 27 seconds.
 
The Archer fires 8-9 rounds per minute with a 21 round magazine.
It reloads in 8 minutes, so it has a sustained speed of 21/(21/9 + 8) = 2,03 rounds per minute.
For the ATAGS to keep up, it must be able to reload the magazine in 2 minutes and 27 seconds.
Archer is inducted product

While ATAGs is still a prototype

It will be stretched to maximum before induction
 
The Archer fires 8-9 rounds per minute with a 21 round magazine.
It reloads in 8 minutes, so it has a sustained speed of 21/(21/9 + 8) = 2,03 rounds per minute.
For the ATAGS to keep up, it must be able to reload the magazine in 2 minutes and 27 seconds.
Mentioned speed Archer is with custom made shells,with normal nato shells its way too less.
Anyway archer is a wonderful piece of engineering.
 
Yep, the firespeed of ATAGS is 2/3 of the speed of obsolete equipment.
Good Luck with that.
I am not an expert but I think both are different category. One is towed howitzer other is self propelled...? Self propelled guns usually have automatic loading and unloading from a larger storage.
 
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2017/09/world-record-gun-salute-to-incoming.html

Prototypes of the Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System (ATAGS) that broke world range record on Monday

By Ajai Shukla
Business Standard, 5th Sept 17


On Monday, in trial firing at the Pokhran Ranges in Rajasthan, the advanced towed artillery gun system (ATAGS) being indigenously developed for the Indian Army demonstrated its potential to be a world-beating system.

The 155-millimetre, 52-calibre gun-howitzer fired three shells out to a world-record distance of 47.2 kilometres from the gun position. This was achieved using special, long-range ammunition called “high explosive – base bleed” (HE – BB).

In comparison, 155-millimetre, 52-calibre guns in service worldwide fire this ammunition to maximum ranges of 40-45 kilometres.

The achievements coincides with the appointment of Nirmala Sitharaman as defence minister.

The ATAGS is being developed by the Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) on two parallel tracks – one prototype in partnership with Tata Power (Strategic Engineering Division) and another with Bharat Forge. The prototype that broke the record was the Tata Power (SED) gun.

Earlier, on Saturday, the same gun had broken another record by firing “high explosive – boat tail” (HE – BT) ammunition to a range of 37.2 kilometres.

Range, accuracy and consistency are the key attributes of an artillery gun. A longer range allows more area to be engaged from a “gun position”, without having to redeploy (or shift) the guns.

The secret of the ATAGS longer range is its larger chamber – 25 litres, compared to 23 litres in most 155-millimetre guns like the French Nexter and Israeli Elbit guns the military has evaluated. A larger chamber packs in more high explosive propellant, which shoots out the warhead further.

The need to cater for this higher “shock of firing” makes the ATAGS a heavier gun. It weighs in at 17-18 tonnes, while comparable guns worldwide weigh 14-15 tonnes.

So promising is the ATAGS that both existing prototypes were paraded on January 26 in New Delhi.

After the gun successfully completes development and firing trials, the army is likely to procure at least 2,000 ATAGS. At an estimated Rs 15 crore apiece, that will result in Rs 30,000 crore in business for the production eco-system, benefiting a large number of private defence firms.

With the current round of “summer trials” having successfully concluded in Pokhran, the ATAGS will now undergo modifications and prepare for “winter trials” in December, probably in Sikkim. Each vendor will build three more ATAGs gun prototypes to expedite trials.

The first ATAGS firing trials were carried out in Balasore, Odisha, last December.

While ATAGS looks much like the Bofors FH-77B – the infamous “Bofors gun” that India bought 410 of in the 1980s before scandal derailed indigenous construction – the ATAGS is in face significantly bigger than the 155-millimetre, 39-calibre Bofors.

When talking about a 155-millimetre, 52-calibre gun, the first figure denotes the “bore” of the gun, or the width of the gun barrel; while calibre relates to barrel length. The higher the calibre, the longer the barrel and, therefore, the greater its range. A third parameter is chamber size, which determines how large a projectile can be fired from the gun, and therefore how much damage a round can inflict on the target.

Another global first in the ATAGS is its all-electric drive, which supersedes the more unreliable hydraulic drives in other towed guns. The all-electric drive operates all the ATAGS’ gun controls: ammunition handling, opening and closing the breech, and ramming the round into the chamber.

The ATAGS is the world’s only gun with a six-round “automated magazine” that fires a six-round burst in just 30 seconds. Most other existing 155-millimetre, 52-calibre guns have three-round magazines, which must be reloaded after firing three rounds.


A high “burst fire” capability will provide the army a significant advantage since artillery causes most casualties in the initial burst of fire, when enemy soldiers are caught in the open (and not after they dive into their trenches).

A very good news but i am more worried what happens after a successful Winter trail in Sikkim ?
 
Indian should really educate themselves before claiming "world record this and that".

Chinese export version 155 mm 52-caliber truck mounted howitzer SH-1: Max Range 53 km

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http://www.deagel.com/Artillery-Systems/SH1_a001849001.aspx
 

You can compare Dhanush's 3 round burst mode. This will have the 6 round burst mode.

This project is going phenomenally, and excellent example of private, public partnership. It's been prototyped and put into trials in record time.

Off of DRDO's design, both of the production agencies have come up with their own distinct variant.

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Bharat Forge Variant

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TATA's variant

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Both together

If this is where India's defence sector is going, it'll be in good hands.

Not to down play the trials coming up, because we all know gruelling it's going to be.

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Athos, probably the most advanded current towed artillery system right now, also has a 3 round burst in 30 seconds.
 
I get so amused when folks will come up with random responses even when there is a legitimate reason to either appreciate or accept. It points to a very typical mentality of a lot of human beings.... If I am not as successful /rich as you are then I will compensate it by saying I know someone who is more successful / richer than you.... folks learn... success/wealth through association is at best suitable for forums... has no association with reality.
 
This is also scrap metal this not helpful real time war .
 
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