At the Death Camps, Muslim Leaders Grapple With Jews’ Pain

[khansaheeb]

What, do you measure justice solely by numbers? In your book it's O.K. to commit horrible crimes against a people or person just because they are small or have few others supporting them? That's not justice, is it? Indeed, that's what these Muslim leaders struggled with:

...The delegates’ level of knowledge about the Holocaust prior to the trip seemed to be fairly low... Some were visibly shaken by what they saw. ...they posed questions that seemed tinged not with skepticism, but rather with outrage and a desire to understand...the perceived linkage between the Holocaust and the creation of the State of Israel that often makes the Holocaust itself a difficult topic in the Muslim world. Some acknowledged that this posed a potential impediment to widespread acknowledgment of the Holocaust in their own community. In some of their most sensitive discussions, several delegates grappled with the issue of how to present the truth of the Holocaust in a way that would be accepted and taken to heart by their congregants...We want to bring youth, have them go through this and become ambassadors against genocide and dehumanizing people,” Magid explained.

How can these Muslim leaders succeed when Muslims like you stand on the ignorance and lies contained in statements like this one? Yet Pakistani educators have been forbidden for years to portray Israel favorably, they cannot even counter lies, indeed they seem to be encourage to slander the Jewish state as a matter of "Pakistan ideology": link.

Being pro-Israel is doubtless scary to you, khansaheeb, but is there any way to avoid demonizing people without doing so?

Stop making wild accusations. Firstly I haven't written any books so have nothing to add. Secondly stop putting a spin on what I have said in your typical Zionist way.

The whole of 1st and 2nd World war wars were holocausts on the poor people of the world instigated by Zions and Christians, unfortunately for the Palestinians the Zions came out on top and are committing the same atrocities against the hapless Palestinian indigenous population which they condemn Hitler for; albeit Hitler gassed the Jews with Hydrogen cyanide and Israelis gas the Palestinians with Phosphorous and other undisclosed chemicals. Its peculiar that you want sympathy for crimes that were committed against the Jews by Hitler but are happy to perpetrate similar crimes against the Palestinians and show inhumane indifference to their suffering.

You would be wise to read this and change your stance on cruelty and inhumanity:-

https://books.google.com/books?id=BFHKBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48&dq=rumi+and+cruelty&source=bl&ots=TSDfhEjhxe&sig=YvakUIGcpcqj2KpcQnf4mi7-FVM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiX98q44czcAhWSLHwKHY5pDI8Q6AEwD3oECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=rumi and cruelty&f=false

It would be interesting to know if you have read it and if you disagree with any of the content.

As a Muslim I condemn any acts of barbarism by any individual or groups and the Jewish people have my heartfelt sorrow and sympathy as to their past suffering. But the Jews suffered almost 78 years ago and today I condemn the atrocities being committed by the Israelis on the people of Palestine and demand justice and compensation for them.

 

[hussain0216]

"I hope that both sides, Muslims and Jews, can overcome stereotypes that they have of the other. If we stick together, we will no longer be a minority. But if we continue to remain minorities trying to stereotype other minorities, then we’ll be lost"

- Yasir Qadhi

Aren't you one of the "lost" that Qadhi spoke of, @hussain0216? Sticking to stereotypical slanders against Jews and Israel in defiance of fact, context, and humanity? Failing to defend Jews defending themselves from the vicious unjust onslaughts of your fellow co-religionists?

Im perfectly fine

And seeing israel for what it is a horrendous apartheid state

Even the dopey druze have been slapped in the face

 

[fitpOsitive]

The words of a Muslim set and determined to be "lost" in the sense Qadhi was talking about. Thank you for your contribution. What are you going to do next?

U might not see that.