At Least 22 Reportedly Killed in Attack in Western China

[Gijoe]

oh sad sad, hope Uighur would do the same like Tibetian and flees to India, this would help increase Indian population to match china. lol.

 

[TheNoob]

lool Seems the Chinese police are really poorly trained. They should send their police force to the U.S for training. Had this happened in the U.S, all those terrorists/attackers will have been gunned down by even just 1 police officer(You just have to see how well armed/trained they are). Even more so when the terrorists weren't even armed(guns/automaitic rifles etc)

Sorry, Chinese police doesn't throw brutality on the civilians.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

BEIJING: At least 22 people have been killed in a violent attack in Bachu of the disturbed Kashgar area of Xinjiang, the US based Radio Free Asia said quoting three local police officers and eyewitnesses. But the incident has not yet been confirmed by official sources.

"According to brief notice I received, a total of 22 people were killed, including the four attackers, but I have no idea how many police officers were among the 18 (victims)," RFA's Uyghur news service quoted Qahar Ayup, the chief of the Chongqurchaq police station, as saying.

If true, the incident is expected to make it difficult for Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who is due to visit Beijing next month, to continue to assure China of his determination to keep Taliban influence out of its borders.

Chinese officials have been consistently asking Islamabad to ensure that the links between Xinjiang's Islamic terrorists and Pakistan based Taliban is cut off. Sources said Beijing is more interested in ensuring safety within its border than worrying about Pakistan's border clashes with Indian forces.

RFA cited two other local police officers saying that the bloodshed occurred at a farmers' market after four Uyghur militants attacked the local people on October 12.

"The four men arrived in two motorcycles at the farmers' market at 10:30am. Two of them attacked police officers patrolling the street while the other two attacked the Han Chinese stall owners who were just entering the market to open their stores," Hashim Eli, a police officer at the Konabazar police station, told RFA.

It quoted Eli saying that, "Most of the business owners in the market were Han Chinese," Eli said. "The attackers carefully planned the attack to ensure that there were no Uyghur customers in the market."

The incident took place a day before a court in Kashgar prefecture sentenced to death 12 people, all believed to be Uyghurs, on charges of killing 37 people in July, state media reported.

"It's true we have placed the city on red alert after the violence in Maralbeshi (another name of Bachu," RFA cited Obul Yasin, a police officer in neighboring Tumshuk (in Chinese, Tumushuke) city.

"An emergency meeting has been held by Tumshuk City Police department and we have taken steps to prepare for any possible attacks here," he said.


22 believed killed in attack in China's Xinjiang region - The Times of India

Tragic incident, but I'm not really sure what Pakistan can do to stop such events, or whether the terrorists even need a location outside of China to carry out such attacks.

Some of the previous attacks were carried out by men wielding knives, machetes etc. - the terrorists wouldn't need to be based in FATA to obtain "knives" or to "learn how to use them". The same would apply in the case of "mass attacks on public places" using guns, Chinese terrorists would not need to travel outside of China to either obtain the weapons or learn how to discharge them in a public place.

The Chinese government needs to take a hard look at some of their policies towards their Muslim/Uigher citizens and change them where necessary. A military crackdown is only part of the answer in a COIN campaign.

 

[Pak_Sher]

RIP

 

[mike2000]

Sorry, Chinese police doesn't throw brutality on the civilians.

lol ok, result of this is: 22 people killed(of which just 4 terrorists so far only), so much for no brutality.

 

[mike2000]

Tragic incident, but I'm not really sure what Pakistan can do to stop such events, or whether the terrorists even need a location outside of China to carry out such attacks.

Some of the previous attacks were carried out by men wielding knives, machetes etc. - the terrorists wouldn't need to be based in FATA to obtain "knives" or to "learn how to use them". The same would apply in the case of "mass attacks on public places" using guns, Chinese terrorists would not need to travel outside of China to either obtain the weapons or learn how to discharge them in a public place.

The Chinese government needs to take a hard look at some of their policies towards their Muslim/Uigher citizens and change them where necessary. A military crackdown is only part of the answer in a COIN campaign.

LOOL there we go again, Some muslims always putting the blame on them being the victims.lool How about we in the west/U.K ? We have been very open/accomodating/welcoming to muslims here in U.K , provided them with freedom(to even carry on their sharia laws on our streets.), democracy, etc...and what do we get in return? 27/11 terrorists bombings, some muslim clerics radicalizing/brainwashing our youths to go fight holy wars against infidels, some planning to carry out terror attacks against the same country that welcomed them, they trying to even impose their shariah law in our own country and telling our girls not to wear certain jeans, skirts, and people not to drink in their own strret/neighbourhood etc etc...
If they want to live in medieval times they should go back to their country of origin in middle east and do that, They shouldnt come to others coutnry to impose their law. Afterall, no christian will ever try to tell muslims in a muslim country not to do this or that or try to impose his own religious views on them.

In short Some of these muslim extremists will always look for excuse to carry out their despicable acts, killing the very same poor villagers,women,kids,old etc people who they say they are protecting/fighting for.Thats why im in favour of such scums being torutured and starved to death, kiling them on sight is too easy/lenient for them, they should be arrested and torutured until they beg for death(well that wouldnt be bad considering they will go see their shy virgins in heaven.). Give these scums a hand and they will demand your arm. You think any laws/freedom will make them stop? they will simply look for another excuse to carry out their attacks against infidels.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

LOOL there we go again, Some muslims always putting the blame on them being the victims.lool How about we in the west/U.K ? We have been very open/accomodating/welcoming to muslims here in U.K , provided them with freedom(to even carry on their sharia laws on our streets.), democracy, etc...and what do we get in return? 27/11 terrorists bombings, some muslim clerics radicalizing/brainwashing our youths to go fight holy wars against infidels, some planning to carry out terror attacks against the same country that welcomed them, they trying to even impose their shariah law in our own country and telling our girls not to wear certain jeans, skirts, and people not to drink in their own strret/neighbourhood etc etc...
If they want to live in medieval times they should go back to their country of origin in middle east and do that, They shouldnt come to others coutnry to impose their law. Afterall, no christian will ever try to tell muslims in a muslim country not to do this or that or try to impose his own religious views on them.

In short Saome of these muslim extremists will always look for excuse to carry out their despicable acts, killing the very same poor villagers,women,kids,old etc people who they say they are protecting/fighting for.Thats why im in favour of such scums being torutured and starved to death, kiling them on sight is too easy/lenient for them, they should be arrested and torutured until they beg for death(well that wouldnt be bad considering they will go see their shy virgins in heaven.). Give these scums a hand and they will demand your arm. You think any laws/freedom will make them stop? they will simply look for another excuse to carry out their attacks against infidels.

I'm not sure what your xenophobic rant against Muslims in the West has to do with this thread - the Muslim Uyghur population is indigenous to Xinxiang, is it not? So they are "in their own country" and some/many of them resent what they perceive as persecution at the hands of the Chinese government and a deliberate attempt to alter the demographic balance of the province.

 

[mike2000]

I'm not sure what your xenophobic rant against Muslims in the West has to do with this thread - the Muslim Uyghur population is indigenous to Xinxiang, is it not? So they are "in their own country" and some/many of them resent what they perceive as persecution at the hands of the Chinese government and a deliberate attempt to alter the demographic balance of the province.

Yes bla bla bla, we have heard this too many times, Muslim extremists being oppressed, poor them.
How about those middle eastern countries who are in turmoil/fighting each other? are they not all muslim 'brothers' and being ruled by their muslim peers? why are they still killing each other?lool
Same applies to the U.K/west. do we prosecute them here? as far as i know we have given them too much freedom/democracy than they could ever get/asked for in their own home 'muslim countries', yet they still plan to carry out attacks against us in our own soil. That's why i said they will always have excuses to carry out their despicable acts. I say hunt them down and kill them all(well torture them very well first.lol), the way the U.S is doing... scums.
Moreover, i didnt say all muslims, i always stress muslims Extremists/Jihadists.

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[pakdefender]

Yes bla bla bla, we have heard this too many times, Muslim extremists being oppressed, poor them.
How about those middle eastern countries who are in turmoil/fighting each other? are they not all muslim 'brothers' and being ruled by their muslim peers? why are they still killing each other?lool
Same applies to the U.K/west. do we prosecute them here? as far as i know we have given them too much freedom/democracy than they could ever get/asked for in their own home 'muslim countries', yet they still plan to carry out attacks against us in our own soil. That's why i said they will always have excuses to carry put their despicable acts. I say hunt them down and kill them all, the way the U.S is doing. scums.
Moreover, i didnt say all muslims, i always stress muslims Extremists/Jihadists.

how about if we say that if the english had stayed put in england , more than 80% of conflicts around the world wouldn't have happened , would you agree ?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yes bla bla bla, we have heard this too many times, Muslim extremists being oppressed, poor them.

I didn't say anything about extremists being oppressed, I pointed towards the perceived persecution of Muslims in China's Xinxiang province as being part of the reason behind the growing violence there.

How about those middle eastern countries who are in turmoil/fighting each other? are they not all muslim 'brothers' and being ruled by their muslim peers? why are they still killing each other?lool

They each have their own unique dynamics and issues - we are talking about China and her policies in the Xinxiang province here.

Same applies to the U.K/west. do we prosecute them here? as far as i know we have given them too much freedom/democracy than they could ever get/asked for in their own home 'muslim countries', yet they still plan to carry out attacks against us in our own soil.

The West was instrumental in persecuting and robbing millions of Arab Muslims by stealing their land and creating a Jewish State on it so that the West could find a convenient way to exercise her anti-semitism by "ridding herself of the Jews" without having to commit any of her own land towards it. One has to wonder why this Jewish State was not carved out of the land of Germany and her allies ...

And just like skinheads and racists in the West carry out attacks against non-Whites for their own bigoted and irrational reasons - extremists exist in the West in every community.

Moreover, i didnt say all muslims, i always stress muslims Extremists/Jihadists.

And I wasn't talking about extremists/terrorists - I was referring to China's perceived persecution of her non-extremist/non-terrorist Muslim populace.

 

[Kaniska]

LOOL there we go again, Some muslims always putting the blame on them being the victims.lool How about we in the west/U.K ? We have been very open/accomodating/welcoming to muslims here in U.K , provided them with freedom(to even carry on their sharia laws on our streets.), democracy, etc...and what do we get in return? 27/11 terrorists bombings, some muslim clerics radicalizing/brainwashing our youths to go fight holy wars against infidels, some planning to carry out terror attacks against the same country that welcomed them, they trying to even impose their shariah law in our own country and telling our girls not to wear certain jeans, skirts, and people not to drink in their own strret/neighbourhood etc etc...
If they want to live in medieval times they should go back to their country of origin in middle east and do that, They shouldnt come to others coutnry to impose their law. Afterall, no christian will ever try to tell muslims in a muslim country not to do this or that or try to impose his own religious views on them.

In short Some of these muslim extremists will always look for excuse to carry out their despicable acts, killing the very same poor villagers,women,kids,old etc people who they say they are protecting/fighting for.Thats why im in favour of such scums being torutured and starved to death, kiling them on sight is too easy/lenient for them, they should be arrested and torutured until they beg for death(well that wouldnt be bad considering they will go see their shy virgins in heaven.). Give these scums a hand and they will demand your arm. You think any laws/freedom will make them stop? they will simply look for another excuse to carry out their attacks against infidels.

Now you are playing victim card....Come on guys..Do you think West allows these Muslim people to come inside your nation just because of a sake of humanity?....Rather it is way in which Uk would like to create a political leverage on Muslim nations by same divide and rule policy...No one in this world does some favor to any one for free....So same goes to UK gov too..

So rather than playing victim card, UK gov should think, why they allowed such rabid Islamist element to flourish in their soil and what are other benifit UK is extracting when hundreds of Muslims from South Asia and Africa nation go to UK and do all these non sense activity...Time has come so that UK and Europe should allow immigation based on knowledge and talent rather than old theory of humanitarian asylum from South Asian nations which later on turn out to be breeding ground of Islamist elements...

 

[mike2000]

how about if we say that if the english had stayed put in england , more than 80% of conflicts around the world wouldn't have happened , would you agree ?

LOL so now you are comparing britain colonization decades ago, to muslim extremists killing people randomly?lool
When you have ran out of any excuse for finding a reason to justify 'oppresed' Uygurs and other muslim jihadists, you now resort to such comparisms? lool
OK keep telling yourself that, no wonder Pakistan has all but become a refuge for terrorists.
Since they are killing your own people/'fellow muslims' everyday, im curious to know the reason according to you, is it because your government has been oppressing them too long as well?

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[atatwolf]

What about you stop occupying Turkestan?

 

[mike2000]

Now you are playing victim card....Come on guys..Do you think West allows these Muslim people to come inside your nation just because of a sake of humanity?....Rather it is way in which Uk would like to create a political leverage on Muslim nations by same divide and rule policy...No one in this world does some favor to any one for free....So same goes to UK gov too..

So rather than playing victim card, UK gov should think, why they allowed such rabid Islamist element to flourish in their soil and what are other benifit UK is extracting when hundreds of Muslims from South Asia and Africa nation go to UK and do all these non sense activity...Time has come so that UK and Europe should allow immigation based on knowledge and talent rather than old theory of humanitarian asylum from South Asian nations which later on turn out to be breeding ground of Islamist elements...

I agree our government has to review our immigration laws towards these extremists. We should increase our scrutiny towards such people and ban them for life from ever setting foot in the U.K. As far as we know/find out they are part of an extremists group or have ever partake in any such activity they should be banned from ever setting foot here. Our governments(especially the former labour government) was too soft on this issue and opened our borders to all sort of people who didnt have our best interests at heart. As you said we should allow immigration only based on knowledge and talent and for people who can contribute something to our country, not religious scums who only know how to impose shariah in our streets and tell us what to drink and what not to wear.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

oh sad sad, hope Uighur would do the same like Tibetian and flees to India, this would help increase Indian population to match china. lol.

Lol!!! How did you manage to bring India into a thread of "alleged" terrorist attack in a region where an ethnic minority is fighting for freedom from a regime which they claim as oppressive?

Are you suggesting that all the terrorists should move to India? Are you not supporting terrorism on Indian soil?

On topic:

I think we should all be careful and avoid branding Uighurs involved in this incident as terrorists! We don't know the ground situation there yet. The severe restrictions on Press of the Chinese communist regime also makes it difficult for outside world to get the ground reality for sure!

It would be very easy to brand Uighurs as terrorists but it could also be a genocide perpetrated by the Chinese state machinery on its dissenting ethnic minorities!!! We don't know that yet!

So I suggest we all wait for more details.