At least 1000 PAK FA fighters will be manufactured until 2050

[perplexed]

American and Russia are not stupid at all...in fact they're very smart: When US allows the sale of superior F-16, they already have F-22 in operation which 1 generation ahead..so what do they have to care or scare off this F-16?? Same for Russia despite de fact that they don't have 5th gen fighter operation such as F-22 , when they sold Su-30 Mki...they already have better version for it own airforce such as su-37 and much more..they certainly won't reveal to the world...even Russian can't afford to have in large quantity... but the core technology is on their hands and can laugh into chain production any time when needed.

Now what we discuss here is the 5th gen fighter which the best of the best that Russian airforce don't possess yet..do they go to let India get a better version of PAk FA then their own airforce? ..it's just doesn't make sense.

When chinese members here want to prove that they are better than Russians, they conveniently overlook your claims ? Funny huh ! how they have memory impulses in selective cases.

 

[April.lyrics]

When chinese members here want to prove that they are better than Russians, they conveniently overlook your claims ? Funny huh ! how they have memory impulses in selective cases.

i have no idea J20 or T50,which is better.

as we know,russian wont sold their most advaced technology.Does Russian equiped with Bhramos?nope.an expert in china said T50 is a Transition Product for Russia.T50 is for the period between 'su-27,su-30,su-35 series' and 'a real russian 5th gen fighter' or '6th fighter'.that means,there will not be mass equipment of T50 in russia.they use it for make money and fill the weakpoint before their mass equipment.that means,T50 series wont in service in Russia for a long time.

as we all know,russia also invited china to develop a 5th gen fighter,but china refused.thats means china have its own idea.to Cooperate with Russian,u just need to provide money,and other things they would do.thats what russians want.

 

[DrSomnath999]

Haha when India trumpeted and mocked about that china gonna ctrl c + Ctrl V of the Pak Fa...it's ok them ,but when I said India will have to face ctrl+alt+del for the price...people can't withstand the humiliation...sure you're not begging Chinese 's money..if you donate your entire nation's fortune to Russia is not our business

who is humiliated man ?,dont boast on anything which has no substance, the russians have hiked their prices of defence goods with all of their customers including india ,& u dont have any idea about Gorskhov ,u r only telling about price hike but not telling any thing about the reinnovation which is done in that vessel .
Well it's fact ,the image of china as a copycat in the world so whatever product they develop ,the world says it is a copy & paste product. So that's not our fault

American and Russia are not stupid at all...in fact they're very smart: When US allows the sale of superior F-16, they already have F-22 in operation which 1 generation ahead..so what do they have to care or scare off this F-16?? Same for Russia despite de fact that they don't have 5th gen fighter operation such as F-22 , when they sold Su-30 Mki...they already have better version for it own airforce such as su-37 and much more..they certainly won't reveal to the world...even Russian can't afford to have in large quantity... but the core technology is on their hands and can laugh into chain production any time when needed.

Now what we discuss here is the 5th gen fighter which the best of the best that Russian airforce don't possess yet..do they go to let India get a better version of PAk FA then their own airforce? ..it's just doesn't make sense.

Ur logic is actually pissed up ,when russia sold su 30 fighters to india ,it was primarily for airdefence,but india upgraded it with with it's own ,french & israeli systems ,which turn out to be MKI version ,This MKI version is best standard of Russian su 30 platform
& every foreign country like algeria ,malaysia wants su30 of MKI standard not of russian standard.
Similarly indian ffga would have french ,indian & israeli weapons systems,avionic ,counter measures ,so it would really be a severe challenge to US f22 raptor,that is the logic behind German defence expert saying ,but u knowingly dont want to understand it
不要张贴这样无用的& 无意义岗位，愚笨的中国人民

 

[faithfulguy]

不崗位這樣無用的& 無意義的崗位，您愚笨的漢語

Before you try to tell people off using their language, make sure that you have someone that really understand the language look over them first. The term Chinese can be apply to the people and the language. In your translator (Is it google), it translate as the Chinese language. So you are saying that Chinese language is stupid, not the people themselves.

As for the rest of the stuff, why don't you type it in English first and I'll try to translate for you.

Another advice, use simplified Chinese if you want to speak to the guys from communist China. For guys originally from Taiwan like me, use traditional Chinese.

 

[April.lyrics]

Ur logic is actually pissed up ,when russia sold su 30 fighters to india ,it was primarily for airdefence,but india upgraded it with with it's own ,french & israeli systems ,which turn out to be MKI version ,This MKI version is best standard of Russian su 30 platform
& every foreign country like algeria ,malaysia wants su30 of MKI standard not of russian standard.
Similarly indian ffga would have french ,indian & israeli weapons systems,avionic ,counter measures ,so it would really be a severe challenge to US f22 raptor,that is the logic behind German defence expert saying ,but u knowingly dont want to understand it

here i dont understand...which part of s-30MKI is upgraded with Indian,French or Isreali?Radar?control system,engine(oghh..impossible) or what?r u sure of ur words?

another question~ Does russians allow u to upgrade S-30 without their permission?

 

[DARKY]

1st,J-20 is not a copy.

Rant something new.

2nd.waiting for other's fighter is like watching a ****.Making own fighter is like Making love with a girl,especially a beautiful one.thats different....

Far better to watch **** until the girls is big enough...... rather than stealing some one else dumped concubine and making it your wife.

 

[April.lyrics]

Rant something new.

Far better to watch **** until the girls is big enough...... rather than stealing some one else dumped concubine and making it your wife.

1st.' Russia denies stealth technology transfer to China for J-20 fighter'
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-defence/126935-russia-denies-stealth-technology-transfer-china-j-20-fighter.html

2nd.though u paste some CG work and a iron toy.i still want to believe that AMCA or what is likely to be a INDIAN 5th gen fighter,even its engine or sth. else is from somewhere else.hope the fate of AMCA is better than LCA~good luck

but J20 have more than 32 flying tests.where is AMCA?or FGFA?

 

[DARKY]

1st.' Russia denies stealth technology transfer to China for J-20 fighter'
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-defence/126935-russia-denies-stealth-technology-transfer-china-j-20-fighter.html

2nd.though u paste some CG work and a iron toy.i still want to believe that AMCA or what is likely to be a INDIAN 5th gen fighter,even its engine or sth. else is from somewhere else.hope the fate of AMCA is better than LCA~good luck

but J20 have more than 32 flying tests.where is AMCA?or FGFA?

Its such a pity that you need Russians to deny that you didn't STEAL their blue prints what about American shouting about you STEALING theirs.
Avionews - Agenzia stampa del settore aeronautico, elicotteristico, aerospaziale e della difesa
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/world/asia/26stealth.html?_r=1

J-20 was also an Iron toy some time back did that stop it from flying.... its not long since you Chinese were posting your fancy Photoshop images of J-XX fighter its not even an year such a pathetic memory you have about yourself.

 

[Black Widow]

1st.' Russia denies stealth technology transfer to China for J-20 fighter'
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-defence/126935-russia-denies-stealth-technology-transfer-china-j-20-fighter.html

2nd.though u paste some CG work and a iron toy.i still want to believe that AMCA or what is likely to be a INDIAN 5th gen fighter,even its engine or sth. else is from somewhere else.hope the fate of AMCA is better than LCA~good luck

but J20 have more than 32 flying tests.where is AMCA?or FGFA?

Russia can not openly accept Transfer of Tech to china. Did USA ever accepted the technology they transferred via Israel (LAVI)??? There are tech Pundits who have there source and they know the truth.

2nd: AMCA is proposed and a time line is defined for it, It will definitely tested near its time line. FGFA will start after PAK-FA over. First 50-80 fighter will be PAK-FA, next 200-250 will be FGFA. I agree with Chinese mouths that India is doing nothing in FGFA than learning and funding. We will use it in AMCA. AMCA will be tested in 2015-17. It may clear IOC/FoC by 2018-2020.

 

[DrSomnath999]

here i dont understand...which part of s-30MKI is upgraded with Indian,French or Isreali?Radar?control system,engine(oghh..impossible) or what?r u sure of ur words?

another question~ Does russians allow u to upgrade S-30 without their permission?

plz dont boast any thing which u dont know ,take a look at all these links below ,u would get answers to ur questions
Sukhoi Su-30MKI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Su-30MKI Info Page - Vayu Sena
The Su-30MKI was jointly designed by Russia's Sukhoi Corporation and India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).[15] The MKI's airframe evolved from that of the Sukhoi Su-27 while most of the avionics were developed by India.[16] The Su-30MKI is more advanced than the basic Su-30MK, the Chinese Su-30MKK/MK2, and the Malaysian Su-30MKM.[17] The aircraft features state of the art avionics developed by Russia, India and Israel which includes display, navigation, targeting and electronic warfare systems.[18] Other key avionics used in the aircraft were sourced from France and South Africa.

 

[tvsram1992]

1st.' Russia denies stealth technology transfer to China for J-20 fighter'
http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-defence/126935-russia-denies-stealth-technology-transfer-china-j-20-fighter.html

2nd.though u paste some CG work and a iron toy.i still want to believe that AMCA or what is likely to be a INDIAN 5th gen fighter,even its engine or sth. else is from somewhere else.hope the fate of AMCA is better than LCA~good luck

but J20 have more than 32 flying tests.where is AMCA?or FGFA?

We had 1000+ of hours of PAKFA test flight. And before PAKFA S37 and Mig1.44 were tested , so what experience do you have before producing J20 similar to Mig1.44 and S37Berkut?
FGFA will be twin seater variant, so please dont tell me every J20 will be restricted as single seater and more over J20 is not the final configuration yet!!!
What is your purpose in bringing lca and amca here other than trolling?

 

[DrSomnath999]

Before you try to tell people off using their language, make sure that you have someone that really understand the language look over them first. The term Chinese can be apply to the people and the language. In your translator (Is it google), it translate as the Chinese language. So you are saying that Chinese language is stupid, not the people themselves.

As for the rest of the stuff, why don't you type it in English first and I'll try to translate for you.

Another advice, use simplified Chinese if you want to speak to the guys from communist China. For guys originally from Taiwan like me, use traditional Chinese.

absolutely no ,u misundertood me ,now i had edited it ,u can see

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

who is humiliated man ?,dont boast on anything which has no substance, the russians have hiked their prices of defence goods with all of their customers including india ,& u dont have any idea about Gorskhov ,u r only telling about price hike but not telling any thing about the reinnovation which is done in that vessel .
Well it's fact ,the image of china as a copycat in the world so whatever product they develop ,the world says it is a copy & paste product. So that's not our fault

Ur logic is actually pissed up ,when russia sold su 30 fighters to india ,it was primarily for airdefence,but india upgraded it with with it's own ,french & israeli systems ,which turn out to be MKI version ,This MKI version is best standard of Russian su 30 platform
& every foreign country like algeria ,malaysia wants su30 of MKI standard not of russian standard.
Similarly indian ffga would have french ,indian & israeli weapons systems,avionic ,counter measures ,so it would really be a severe challenge to US f22 raptor,that is the logic behind German defence expert saying ,but u knowingly dont want to understand it
不要张贴这样无用的& 无意义岗位，愚笨的中国人民

For the price Russia Charged on Gorskhov, you could have bought 1 or 2 new ones instead of make a major renovation...so it's not big deal India has money right?

as for Su-30 mki...tell me if this aircraft is better than what Russian airforce has in term of fighter? Even your so call upgrade with Israel or French sub-systerm with have no match to the version that Russia has in possession...the fact is just they dont want to reveal it maybe they already have SU-30 MKKKI version, who knows???...

And by the way ..I don't need you to teach me chinese...your Indian official language is ENGLISH..so you better learn some Indu writting instead.

 

[DarK-LorD]

.the fact is just they dont want to reveal it maybe they already have SU-30 MKKKI version, who knows???...

And by the way ..I don't need you to teach me chinese...your Indian official language is ENGLISH..so you better learn some Indu writting instead.

You have limited knowledge.
I in MKI stands for India,so Russia can't have MKKKI & also there is no such language called Indu.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

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