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At last, a Pak official voice absolves Raw

Chaloo at least @SarthakGanguly can sleep tonight; he cried himself silly when someone accused India and ended up draining essential electrolytes from his body ! :(

Then he was taken to a veterinarian and things seemed to stabilized ! :)

Get well soon, brother ! :kiss3:
 
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The whole affair is mullah matter and the ideology that comes with Islamic terrorism - why drag us poor kafirs and wajibul qatls into your shit pit?

no one is talking about islam here, before come to any conclusion read the discussion between me and Oscar ... i am not saying RAW did it , but RAW is funding TTP , its a open secret ..
 
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no one is talking about islam here, before come to any conclusion read the discussion between me and Oscar ... i am not saying RAW did it , but RAW is funding TTP , its a open secret ..

Where's the proof?


And, in the end it's about islam - ttp wants a sharia abiding purer Islamic pakistan that's part of the greater Islamic state and your end of days prophecy about korasan.
 
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r hum chhed nh krainga hum direct shaheen1 marenga phr sochna ka moqa he nh mila ga saans khn sa lain r pada khn sa
 
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our establishment and army have it

Lol - that's all hocus pocus - watch christine fairs latest interview on pes ha war attack to the diplomat - she sums it up beautifully. IIt's bitter but that's the truth.


and, What's stopping them from making it public? they don't trust you guys with proof?
 
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Lol - that's all hocus pocus - watch christine fairs latest interview on pes ha war attack to the diplomat - she sums it up beautifully. IIt's bitter but that's the truth.


and, What's stopping them from making it public? they don't trust you guys with proof?

Christine fair . lolz you can come up better than that ?
i can give you similar example US person chuck heagle , speak about how India use Afghanistan as second front ..

i hope i spell it right :P
 
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Christine fair . lolz you can come up better than that ?
i can give you similar example US person chuck heagle , speak about how India use Afghanistan as second front ..

i hope i spell it right :P

How about panetta gellar hillary Clinton chuck ha gel Ashton carter Hussain haqqani....etc etc the list is endless.

Lol I knew the best you can come up with would be a common man's words (he wasn't in any official status when he made that assumption) look at his statements on an official level.
 
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Christine fair . lolz you can come up better than that ?
i can give you similar example US person chuck heagle , speak about how India use Afghanistan as second front ..

i hope i spell it right :P
I think Chuck Hagel got taken care of right here.
What Hagel said has been misconstrued.

Setting aside the fact that Hagel has a tendency to be inarticulate, which is why he was opposed strongly during his confirmation hearing by the US senate, and which finally lead to his resignation after being confirmed for only a couple of years. It is still far from what the conspiracist have conveniently assumed from that speech.

I'll tell you what India has done/ is doing and what Chuck was referring to specifically.

Couple of specific areas they are involved in:

1. India has financed the Afghan Intel and supported it in efforts where they go after finding tangible and strong circumstantial proof to show Pakistan as a state supporter of terrorism.

2. India makes no secret of speaking with Balochistan's rebel leaders at their embassy in Afghanistan . There is a picture the Pakistanis showed us of a particular leader entering the Indian Embassy.

This an important distinction to the narrative, India has not yet supported the insurgency in that region, but they have done all the ground work and the prep, as a counter.

What does that mean in plain speak - Should Pakistan keep pushing the envelope, and this is important ' beyond Kashmir' AKA perpetrate another Mumbai style attack in India again. India will open up the flood gates in supporting the balochistan rebels.

Hopefully, you now finally have an understanding to what Chuck was eluding to!
 
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How about panetta gellar hillary Clinton chuck ha gel Ashton carter Hussain haqqani....etc etc the list is endless.

Lol I knew the best you can come up with would be a common man's words (he wasn't in any official status when he made that assumption) look at his statements on an official level.

yeah once you are official , you have to lie .. .:P
 
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yeah once you are official , you have to lie .. .:P

A common man isn't privy to information - just like you aren't privy to your establishments so called proof lol.

When someone says something in an official capacity that's what matters. ...just like what sartaj aziz says here as compared to hafiz sayeed zayid hamid you and Zarvan.
 
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Dont remember that time, Ill direct you to my post as to how these assets are controlled and kept.

The issue is the way these wars are now fought. I gave the ISIS example precisely as it is the FIRST public demonstration of how proxy wars and terrorism is backed and used on an almost freelance basis by anyone who needs to for an agenda.

What started off as an attempt by the Saudis and Israelis each with their own independent agenda to remove an Iranian backed regime in Syria, to take an example closer to your home.. take the recent Indian elections.. there are normal regular folk without any ideas of Akhand Bharat who supported NaMo in his election because they saw the potential for economic uplift, and then there are those who supported him because they wanted a temple at the site of the Babri mosque.. it is very likely that these two parties would normally not associate themselves with each other, but because the means would fulfil both their demands they joined hands.
The same way the Israelis and the Saudis joined in with the Rebels to achieve a goal they both found beneficial. The Saudis have the most potent strain of the terror virus stored away in their vaults(which ironically they've spent years on ensuring does not effect their own society as much) and they had the funds to push it in. Since the removal of Assad favours most of the GCCs agenda of having Iran out of the mix.. they all pitched in. The US finds out and decides to take over from Israel in providing the funds in this free for all against Iran. On the ground, you have the basic idea of rebels against Assad but as such its just a huge petri dish with each trying their brand of killer virus to see what kills Assad. Lo and Behold, just as with all viruses, it left the dish..and backfired..but the important point to note was the petri dish.. in this case the guinea pig of Syria and eventually Iran. So anyone who had any beef with Iran, found this nice open wound with semi-controllable viruses teeming in it, all willing to do the work for a few thousand dollars. To a state looking to settle scores or press its interests against another state.. this is the proverbial gold mine; a colony of multiple use mercenaries all willing to die for a very modest investment.

Take that same mirror and apply it to Pakistan and the TTP. Here is an opportunity(that India did not create) of anti-state elements in Pakistan(who are always on the lookout for funds and training) that are willing to do some work(via Afghan mediators) for a few thousand dollars. ANY , and I mean ANY smart state facing a neighbour like Pakistan would NEVER leave this opportunity be regardless of any pacifist ideals they may have held(hardly so considering the Indian reprisal attempts in the early 90s). In this case however, there is a massive need to avenge a wound called 26/11.. or is it?
IMHO, the issue may have a little sentiment with 26/11 but has more to do with the aforementioned need to keep Pakistan out as a border threat, out of the Kashmir issue.. and embroiled in its own survival with its own cancer where it just barely lives on.. and essentially ends up being a non-issue to India.

Source: Peshawar Massacre - TTP kills hundreds of school kids (Avoid graphic pics/vids) | Page 229



The first part: The Pakistan Military is going after all Taliban as it has its own understanding on how things need to be done. The recent cool down with Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif was the result of a drubbing by the COAS to get their affairs in order. So, two things have happened.. the PA has decided that the Afghan front has to be tackled with all but the most old and compliant of assets within the Haqqani network being kept safe. The Punjab militant network will also be hit and curtailed via tertiary handler links. The issue however is that having maintained these "links", they cannot be shut down overnight.. not because they are important, but because just as with a viper's pit.. you cannot withdraw your hand suddenly or as lessons have shown.. the snakes will bite the hand in the nest.

Your second part is based on the wrongful assumption that the Taliban the PA is fighting are the EXACT same organization that allegedly sends those men across the LoC.



read this post.


Why would the USA allow Iran to bomb the ISIS rebels....since we know now that the Iranians did do strikes......and why would Americans now be willing to go in and do the dirty work?
Also, why is Turkey sitting idle....with all the fire in their neighborhood? Iraq, Libya and Syria totally wasted.

I have my own analysis, would love to hear yours....
 
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