The_Showstopper
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Mar 6, 2011
- Messages
- 6,708
- Reaction score
- -3
- Country
- Location
If you feel that being "centrist" means pandering to the minority sentiments, you are sadly mistaken.
If you feel that being 'centrist' means overlooking the fringe and fanatics of a particular community but targeting and blaming the whole of other community just because of the misdeeds of few fringe elements of that community then you must check its meaning once again in a standard reputed dictionary.
I do not mince words. If Hindu fundamentalists have done it, I would slam them
I failed to see you slamming the hindu fundamentalists at least on PDF even after pointing out some of their xenophobic posts.
but in this case they are not the instigators. The past 3 weeks was an issue caused by muslim fundamentalists. Imagine a mosque desecrated by hindu fundamentalists or other religious people. Imagine the offense the minorities and the pseudosecularists would have taken and how long they would be holding on to it? I do not see that when a war memorial was desecrated nor when other religions' gods' statues were desecrated. And even the false propaganda that Hindu fundamentalists used to accomplish in sowing the distrust - as per the link you posted above, their contribution is only 20%. So who has made the 80& contribution?
How come they are not instigators when they actively played their part of disturbing communal harmony by spreading rumors. And more over its not abt who instigated whom. Going by your logic then I think you will also condone the arrest and possible torture of a christian girl and brutal killing of Christian boy as the girl committed blasphemy in Pakistan and therefore instigated these reprisals. Will you?? Two wrongs don't make a right...
Well I saw many of the 'pseudo-seculars' making a huge hue and cry abt the Mumbai violence and other similar type of things that took place. The below are a just few of the articles and debates from one of the 'psuedo-secular' media outlet abt them...
Soldier memorial desecrated, police guns stolen, women cops molested, during Mumbai violence | NDTV.com
Mumbai top cop shunted out: Punished for doing the 'right thing'? Video: NDTV.com
Mumbai riots: The cops who fought a merciless mob | NDTV.com
False propaganda?? Wow if I post an article which vindicates hindu fundamentalist's misdeeds it becomes propaganda but if some of your friends who posts similar articles which blame the fundamentalists of other religion then you readily applaud them, These antics of yours seem to be undoing your claims of being a centrist... All the while you've been criticizing me for painting everything in religious terms but what do I see over here is something you are which you have been accusing me to be. According to what I've seen in news articles, almost all of the 80% of contribution were made by foreign elements but your post seem to suggest that these contributions are of muslims...Why are trying to bring the religion into play. Hafeez Saeed is supposedly a muslim and so is Abdul Hameed, so would you club them together. Any sensible and reasonable person after reading those articles would suggest it is the handiwork of foreign fringe elements trying to disturb communal harmony of India rather than pointing at their religious affiliation...
Do you know why I contradicted you? Because I don't think you showed any remorse on the work by the muslim fundamentalists on the desecration of war memorial but rather you took offense at some some members' pointing fingers at your community.
Why should I show remorse?? I haven't committed the crime. Will you show remorse for a crime you didn't commit? Yes I was disgusted at the apathy of these goons who committed this crime and I repeatedly condemned these acts which you failed to take notice.
You may be a moderate one within the muslim community but folks like you fail to take on the small group of radicals. It is nothing but hypocrisy on your part what I see here.
I always criticized things which are wrong irrespective of their religious affiliation and I don't think folks like me have failed to take on the radicals as me and people like me criticized them. Like-minded people of my community came out to show solidarity and condemn the attacks on North Easterners that happened all over India...
Here is what I posted more than a month ago - so this would explain my position here.
"I was born a hindu but an athiest now and religion does not matter anymore for me. But I hate pseudo secularists in India who find fault with hinduism but refrain from doing the same with other religions and I would take every given opportunity to call out the hypocrisy in these pseudo secularists.
If that makes me an internet hindu, so be it and I do not give a rat's a**.
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/genera...t-online-frays-aljazeera-5.html#ixzz24c2v6AU1 "
Whether you choose to be Hindu or a atheist is your personal thing but I hope you also hate the pseudo nationalists as much as you hate the pseudo secularists as both are dangerous to the society...
The primitives are yet to pay for their crimes.
They must be made to.
We should not allow these scum to destroy our religious places in our own country. They need to know there is a price to pay...
I hope that happens sooner than later.
I hope these primitives and primitives from all religious affiliations get punished for their acts...
And don't forget 80% hate matrerial still came from the Islamists. Don't assume others can't pay back in the same coin.
I would rather say that they came from some foreign source who had vested interest in destroying the social fabric of our country.
Does that mean 80% of the hate content is by skull caps and three fourths ?
It means that all most all of the 80% are from the foreign sources who had a ulterior motive of dividing India to which the remaining 20% actively supported their cause...
They will go on a rampage destroying and desecrating everything in their path. but the first one to blame them for their acts becomes an Islamophobic RSS bigot. So convenient.
First one to blame the whole of the community for wrongdoings of few will obviously become Islamophobic RSS bigot...