Assad says he will not leave

[NeutralCitizen]

when i see soldiers r beating old man, i see soldiers killing unarmed ppl, kill kids, insulting citizens why coz they asked for freedom to elect their ppl?
I WILL SAY THE REGIME IS AGAINST THE PUBLIC OF THAT COUNTRY. SIMPLE

TARIQ

Bahrain ring a bell son ? What about the Saudi's that shoot a Quran that a man was holding shouting for freedom from the Royal?

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Turkey attack Syria ? Is Erdogan some kind of Sultan ? why would the Turks help the Arabs, Arabs stabbed turks in back and destroyed the ottoman empire. Erdogan might lose his status as time man of the year by the Arabs this year.

 

[AcesAreDirty]

Bahrain ring a bell son ? What about the Saudi's that shoot a Quran that a man was holding shouting for freedom from the Royal?

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Turkey attack Syria ? Is Erdogan some kind of Sultan ? why would the Turks help the Arabs, Arabs stabbed turks in back and destroyed the ottoman empire. Erdogan might lose his status as time man of the year by the Arabs this year.

Well said with the final point, if anybody does not know history, I suggest yoi type in youtube "Imran Hosein Caliphate" or khilafat. Watch that lecture.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

no i see videos and there r a lot of them, i saw even molana's video too what i meant i don't build my opinion on that only. i know syrians since i was a kid. same goes for egyptians i know how egyptians were treated by that regime and who could be more loyal to u.s then husni brother

Now u see many ppl have so many sat. dishes i own different kind of dishes since about 20 years not new for media and i can give u many videos how this syrian regime is killing the public and also not new for internet.

Qadhafi abused sahaba, this bashar is like his father a kafir why would i like him specially he killed many ?

TARIQ

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Unlike Gaddafi who had almost no supporters Assad has strong support from alwais, Christians, Shia's and Syrian nationalists, Gaddafi kept his Military very Weak , The Syrian Military is 1000x better trained and equipped then Libya.

 

[Thomas]

Bahrain ring a bell son ? What about the Saudi's that shoot a Quran that a man was holding shouting for freedom from the Royal?

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Turkey attack Syria ? Is Erdogan some kind of Sultan ? why would the Turks help the Arabs, Arabs stabbed turks in back and destroyed the ottoman empire. Erdogan might lose his status as time man of the year by the Arabs this year.

Turkey doesn’t rule out intervention in Syria
Friday, August 12, 2011

Turkey doesn’t rule out intervention in Syria - Hurriyet Daily News


"Turkey isn’t ruling out international intervention in Syria if the Bashar al-Assad regime doesn’t stop using violence against its own people, a Turkish official speaking on condition of anonymity told the Hürriyet Daily News on Friday.

The source also said that a letter from Turkish President Abdullah Gül to Assad delivered by Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu on Tuesday was considered by Ankara as an “ultimatum” to Damascus that, if violence by Syrian troops continued, Assad would no longer be able to rely on Turkey’s friendship."

 

[AcesAreDirty]

no i see videos and there r a lot of them, i saw even molana's video too what i meant i don't build my opinion on that only. i know syrians since i was a kid. same goes for egyptians i know how egyptians were treated by that regime and who could be more loyal to u.s then husni brother

Now u see many ppl have so many sat. dishes i own different kind of dishes since about 20 years not new for media and i can give u many videos how this syrian regime is killing the public and also not new for internet.

Qadhafi abused sahaba, this bashar is like his father a kafir why would i like him specially he killed many ?

TARIQ

Sir, I am not going to disagree or disregard any of your points. You could very well be right and this is the reason why Iraq was brought in this thread, just to kill Saddam, over a million people died and over 4 million displaced now as collateral, is this justice?????????

Back then I had a friend, I still remember my words as I told her if CIA want to kill saddam, they can kill him but war will bring tremendous death and destruction specifically from a country who has been waging wars since a century at rate of 1war/2years. I had tears in my eyes and felt that this was not going to be a walk in and walk out but with Mohamad saeed al sahaf in charge as MOI, years passed and people forgot about Iraq, $2 bln got stolen and nobody cares or remembers and FBI is too busy entraping muslims in USA and finding that ghost 'lone terrorist' to investigate anything else...

Nothing will change either from your or mine perspective, death awaits!

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Turkey doesn’t rule out intervention in Syria
Friday, August 12, 2011

Turkey doesn’t rule out intervention in Syria - Hurriyet Daily News


"Turkey isn’t ruling out international intervention in Syria if the Bashar al-Assad regime doesn’t stop using violence against its own people, a Turkish official speaking on condition of anonymity told the Hürriyet Daily News on Friday.

The source also said that a letter from Turkish President Abdullah Gül to Assad delivered by Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu on Tuesday was considered by Ankara as an “ultimatum” to Damascus that, if violence by Syrian troops continued, Assad would no longer be able to rely on Turkey’s friendship."

If Erdogan intervenes in Syria the Western media will make it out to be Muslim on Muslim Fighting, Syrians rejected any type intervention by anyone, Turkey better think twice.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Assalam alaikum

I m myself was always against saddam and when i was studying in u.s in 80's i had iraqi friends and we used to argue a lot about it. whenever there is protest against the iraq iran war i will try to be in front. but i m against the way they brought him down. this invasion could not have happen if iran backed parties didnot provide the help to u.s and iran is helping syrian now

coming to syria this regime is the most brutal one in arab world, just by mentioning this regime a normal syrian u can see fear in his eyes. i still can't believe how these ppl r challenging it. u know there r many hadeeth about the ppl of shaam and these ppl r getting killed by this criminal. i dont think anybody asked the westerns to interfere but yes there is a demand from turky to pressure syria and if these ppl get arms they will be able to throw this regime.
Any how these ppl came out on streets and listening to the protestors on media and other places they r not going back to their homes unless bashar kill in hundered thousands.

We always blame arabs for accepting the dictators now they r own their feet challenging them should we encourage them or not.

TARIQ

 

[AcesAreDirty]

Turkey just likes to talk tough, they have begged Israel to apologize only a 1000 times, even after Erdogan shameful warning that he might visit gaza if Israel doesnt Apologize. Israhell still didnt apologize.

In Pakistan it would be equivilant to our government who has warned and passed resolutions like only 1000 times over drone strikes but Amrika still does it...

 

[ovarel]

Turkey just likes to talk tough, they have begged Israel to apologize only a 1000 times, even after Erdogan shameful warning that he might visit gaza if Israel doesnt Apologize. Israhell still didnt apologize.

In Pakistan it would be equivilant to our government who has warned and passed resolutions like only 1000 times over drone strikes but Amrika still does it...

LOL..too much ignorance here..Turkey never wanted to intervene in syria,why should we?Turkey warned syria in order to relieve sunni and western states..Cutting ties with Israel is a strategic goal for Turkey..Noone is begging,our policy makers are smart(of course you are smarter) and they know that israel wont apologize..it helps us to reduce the level of the relations with israel and it helps us to shut up seculars here.

btw arabs were mostly loyal to the ottoman empire.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Assalam alaikum

Ordogan is very popular in arab world and when he gave some support to the demonstrators it went up more. i hope he was not just to release pressure if he can't do anything just stay quite.

TARIQ

 

[Project 627]

Nope not Shia Just Muslim, Bashar father shelled hama to ground when the Muslim Brotherhood tried to take over killing 28,000, so if daddy did something that crazy whats to stop kiddy from using chemical weapons ?

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The russians can no longer be trusted they sold gaddafi out whats to stop them from selling Assad out later ? Russia wants to get in the WTO and they will give up allies for that, Assad should turn to the Chinese for weaponry.

Russians will never sell out Assad, because Libya was strategically unimportant to them but Syria is whole different ball game, if Assad falls they will lose their only navel base in the Mediterranean, and that will be a big blow to Russia. For example Russia abstained from voting on resolution 1973 authorizing a no-fly zone over Libya, but they have blocked every vote regarding on Syria, even ones that only condemns Assad actions. The point I am trying to make is that Russia cannot afford to lose Syria, it is as simple as that.

 

[below_freezing]

Assalam alaikum

I m myself was always against saddam and when i was studying in u.s in 80's i had iraqi friends and we used to argue a lot about it. whenever there is protest against the iraq iran war i will try to be in front. but i m against the way they brought him down. this invasion could not have happen if iran backed parties didnot provide the help to u.s and iran is helping syrian now

coming to syria this regime is the most brutal one in arab world, just by mentioning this regime a normal syrian u can see fear in his eyes. i still can't believe how these ppl r challenging it. u know there r many hadeeth about the ppl of shaam and these ppl r getting killed by this criminal. i dont think anybody asked the westerns to interfere but yes there is a demand from turky to pressure syria and if these ppl get arms they will be able to throw this regime.
Any how these ppl came out on streets and listening to the protestors on media and other places they r not going back to their homes unless bashar kill in hundered thousands.

We always blame arabs for accepting the dictators now they r own their feet challenging them should we encourage them or not.

TARIQ

who tells you that? the Chinese dissidents say the same thing you do:

these ppl r getting killed by this criminal. i dont think anybody asked the westerns to interfere but yes there is a demand from turky to pressure syria and if these ppl get arms they will be able to throw this regime.

Of course, because China is more connected to the world than Syria, more people know the truth, but during the 90's, did you know what some people believed about China??

What about Russia? Lots of people say horrible things about Russia like mafia killings actually being severe enough to drop the average lifespan , extreme poverty, skinheads killing every non-white, etc ... but is it really that bad? i doubt. go to moscow it is amazingly rich.

So don't believe your eyes and ears alone. You have to BE there.

 

[Eran Spahbod]

LOL..too much ignorance here..Turkey never wanted to intervene in syria,why should we?Turkey warned syria in order to relieve sunni and western states..Cutting ties with Israel is a strategic goal for Turkey..Noone is begging,our policy makers are smart(of course you are smarter) and they know that israel wont apologize..it helps us to reduce the level of the relations with israel and it helps us to shut up seculars here.

btw arabs were mostly loyal to the ottoman empire.

Ofcourse Turkey knows Israel won't apologize. Everybody knows that. Why do you think the Israelis are so well loved and adored by most of the world?

Turkey has nothing to gain by intervening in Syria. Perhaps some international praise at best. If that's what it seeks, it stands a better chance of getting far more credit by intervening in Palestine against the Israeli atrocities.