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Aryan Ethos: Loyalty To One’s Own Nature

OP thinks he's white. :lol:

Who knows he might actually be a white supremacist hiding behind a pakistani identity on this forum. How can a pakistani open a thread using white supremacist "aryan" content, it is just beyond my comprehension.
 
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Who knows he might actually be a white supremacist hiding behind a pakistani identity on this forum. How can a pakistani open a thread using white supremacist "aryan" content, it is just beyond my comprehension.

Na hes actually a Pakistani with some identity issues.
 
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:lol:, says the Qadiyani who's using English instead of Urdu. Talk about pot calling the kettle black.

Type in urdu next time bud, you might look a bit extra Pakistani by your own logic. :-)
I love how you say qadiyani like it means anything

When these fascistic weirdos finally get there Ethno state im pretty sure they will let you stay

You of all people shouldn't use the word "Logic"
 
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You could have a completely homogenous community of middle class wh*Tes. A nice town with almost no crime, an all round good community. However because of the weakness of the wh*Tes all it would take to destroy this community is one BLACK bull?

Just imagine, it's a nice sunny Sunday afternoon, imagine the bustle of this 100% wh*Te town until suddenly a couple of BLACK bulls walk up. Women would feel more attraction to these superior, strong bulls infinitely more than their pathetic wh*Te husbands. Every woman would be begging, grovelling to be impregnated by these overlords, the new kings of the town who earned this position with nothing but their superior presence. And these bulls wouldn't stop until every girl was carrying their children, the wh*Te women's original children would probably be neglected. Who the **** would want to raise these inferior children? They are only going to turn out like their fathers.

Is this some kind of Freudian dream of yours coming out into the open or something??? A very weird post. That’s like saying any time a white or black guy walks in a tiny town in Asia all the women swoon and abandon their husbands or something to make babies with an Alpha male. Um...yeah..ok...whatever you say.
 
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You could have a completely homogenous community of middle class wh*Tes. A nice town with almost no crime, an all round good community. However because of the weakness of the wh*Tes all it would take to destroy this community is one BLACK bull?

Just imagine, it's a nice sunny Sunday afternoon, imagine the bustle of this 100% wh*Te town until suddenly a couple of BLACK bulls walk up. Women would feel more attraction to these superior, strong bulls infinitely more than their pathetic wh*Te husbands. Every woman would be begging, grovelling to be impregnated by these overlords, the new kings of the town who earned this position with nothing but their superior presence. And these bulls wouldn't stop until every girl was carrying their children, the wh*Te women's original children would probably be neglected. Who the **** would want to raise these inferior children? They are only going to turn out like their fathers.

its a good scene i saw it on p0rn hub
 
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We definitely need a dedicated Philosophy section on this forum. There is an abundance of rich material out there needing exposure through ease of accessibility which a dedicated philosophy section can serve as.

In this essay Julius Evola addresses the crisis of inidividual rootlessness stemming from a lack of an organic social hierarchy based upon the inherent nature of inidividuals. The caste system existed in all major traditional civilizations, from Japan to China, from India to Persia, from Greece to Rome down to the Medieval age as late as the Hohenstaufen dynasty of the Holy Roman Empire.

The traditional caste system composed of historically four castes according to Evola: (in ascending order) the slaves, the bourgeois middle-class (merchants), the warrior aristocracy (Samurai, Nobles, Knights, Kshatriya) , and at the top of this hierarchy are "bearers of a pure, spiritual authority." This is the ideal and traditional order of this hierarchy which Evola calls "the doctrine of the hierarchical quadripartition."

Each caste is spiritually distinct from the other and this difference manifests itself within the outlook of the respective castes. Within this ascending order each caste (slave, bourgeoise, and warrior) there is "a natural dependence of the inferior ways of life on the superior ones" with the spiritual authority at the top, traditionally a priestly caste with a patriarch ruling with a divine right.

"History is clearly marked by the progressive descent of civilization, power and values from the level of the highest caste to that of the lowest. With the end of those systems based on pure spiritual authority ('sacral civilizations' ruled by 'divine kings'), authority fell into the hands of the warrior aristocracy: here began the cycle of great monarchies - the 'divine right' of the sovereign representing the residual echo of a former sacred dignity. The bourgeois revolution, democracy, capitalism and industrialism then contributed to transfer power into the hands of the representatives of the third caste, that of the wealthy - such transferral radically altering the character of the civilization and the nature of its interests. In the present day, socialism, Marxism and Communism are foreshadowing - and have already partly brought about - the final phase: the advent of the fourth caste, that of servants. Servants ('workers' and proletarians) are here seen to organize themselves in an attempt to gain power and to conquer the world, leaving their imprint on all aspects of life, leading the historical process of regression to its close." - Source


Aryan Ethos: Loyalty To One’s Own Nature


By Julius Evola

Today, more than ever, one must understand that social problems, in their essence, are rooted in problems of ethics and world-view. Anyone who thinks that social problems can be solved through purely technical means, is like a doctor who only wants to treat the patent symptoms of a disease, rather than examining and treating its deep causes. The greater part of the crises, disorders, and unresolved tensions that characterize modern Western society depend not simply on material factors, but, to at least an equal degree, on the surreptitious substitution of one world-view by another. This new attitude towards oneself and towards one’s own destiny has been celebrated as a triumph, when in fact it represents a deviation and a degeneration.

Particularly relevant to the issues that will be discussed here is the opposition between the modern “activistic,” individualist ethic and the traditional and Aryan doctrine concerning “one’s own nature.”

In all traditional civilizations — all those that the empty arrogance of historicism dismisses as “antiquated” and the Masonic ideology deems to be “obscurantist” — the principle of a fundamental equality of human nature was always an alien notion, and considered an obvious aberration. Every being has, from birth, its own “nature,” which is to say, its own face, its own quality, its own personality, albeit more or less differentiated. According to the oldest Aryan and classical teachings, this was not viewed as the result of chance, but as an intimation of a kind of decision or determination prior to the human condition of existence itself. In any case, this fact of having “one’s own nature” was never viewed as a destiny. One is unquestionably born with certain tendencies, certain vocations and inclinations, sometimes patent and clearly defined, sometimes latent and only manifesting themselves under particular circumstances or when subjected to certain tests. But everyone has a margin of freedom with respect to this innate, differentiated element, which is linked to birth, if not — as expressed by the teachings mentioned previously — to something coming from far away, preceding birth itself.

This is where the opposition between two paths and ethical attitudes manifests itself: between the traditional and the “modern.” The cornerstone of the traditional ethos is to be oneself and to remain loyal [true] to oneself. One must know what one “is,” and will it, rather than attempt self-realization in a form that is different from what one is.

This in no way implies passivity or quietism. Being oneself is always, to some degree, a task, a “standing firm.” It implies a strength, an uprightness, a development. But here, this strength, uprightness and development are grounded in, and an extension of, innate dispositions. They are linked to character, and manifest themselves in traits of harmony, self-coherence and organic wholeness. In other words, man orients his existence towards being “all of one piece.” His energies are directed towards potentiating and refining his nature and his character and defending it against every alien tendency, against every altering influence.

It was thus that ancient wisdom formulated maxims such as these: “If men impose upon themselves a norm of action that is not in conformity with their nature, this must not be considered a norm of action.” And further: “One’s own duty, even if imperfectly performed, is better than doing the duty of another perfectly. To die while performing one’s own duty is preferable; doing the duty of another carries great dangers with it.” This loyalty to one’s own way of being even took on a religious value: “Man realizes perfection,” an ancient Aryan text [the Bhagavad Gita] states, “when he worships him from which all living things proceed and who pervades all beings, by fully actualizing his own way of being.” And also: “Always do what must be done (in accordance with your own nature), without attachment, because he who acts with an active disinterestedness accomplishes the Supreme.”

Unfortunately, it has become common, today, to be horrified by any mention of the caste system. “Castes”?! Today people no longer even talk of “classes,” and barely of “social categories.” Today, “stagnating divisions” are overcome, and the “people” is embraced (the "peoples democracy" as in Communism, or "universal egality" as in Liberalism).

The prejudice against the caste system is due to ignorance, and can in the best of cases be explained by the fact that, rather than considering the principles upon which a system is based, one dwells upon its deviant, empty or degenerating forms. First of all, it should be noted that “caste” in the traditional sense has absolutely nothing to do with “class,” the latter being an artificial division on an essentially materialistic basis, while caste is linked to the theory of an authentic nature and the ethos of loyalty to one’s own nature. For this reason — furthermore — there often existed a natural, de facto caste system, without any need for a positive institutionalization, and hence without the term caste or a similar word even being used; this was, to a certain extent, the case in the Middle Ages.

In recognizing his own nature, traditional man also recognized his “place,” his proper function, and just relations of superiority and inferiority. In principle, the castes, or equivalents of castes, prior to defining social groups, defined functions, typical ways of being and acting. The fact of the correspondence between, on the one hand, the individual’s own nature — innate tendencies which subsequently are affirmed — and on the other hand, a function, determined the fact of his belonging to a corresponding caste, in such a way that he could recognize in the duties of his caste the normal unfolding and development of his own nature.

Thus, in the traditional world, the caste system often appeared as a calm, natural institution, founded not on exclusion, arbitrariness or the abuse of power by a minority, but on something that was self-evident to everyone. Fundamentally, the well-known Roman principle of suum cuique tribuere is based on the same idea: to each his own. Since beings are unequal, it is absurd to demand that everyone have access to everything, and to claim that anyone, in principle, is qualified to perform any and every function. That would mean a deformation, a denaturing.

The difficulties that arise in the minds of those who look at the current conditions, quite different from the system being discussed, come from imagining cases in which the individual manifests a vocation and talents different from those appropriate to the group in which he finds himself by birth and tradition. However, in a normal world, such cases have always been exceptions, for a precise reason: because in those times, the values of blood, race and family were naturally recognized, and in this way, a biological, hereditary continuity of vocation, qualifications and traditions was maintained. This is the counterpart of the ethic of being oneself: minimizing the possibility of birth actually being a matter of chance, and hence of the individual being rootless, in disharmony with his environment, with his family and even with himself, with his own body and his own race. Moreover, it must be emphasized that in the aforementioned civilizations and societies, materialistic and utilitarian factors were to a large extent subordinated to higher values, which were inwardly experienced. Nothing seemed more worthy than following one’s own tradition, than performing one’s natural activity, than following the vocation truly appropriate to one’s own mode of being, however humble or modest it might be: so much so, that it was even conceivable that he who keeps within his station in life and performs its duties with purity and impersonality, has the same dignity as a member of any of the “higher” castes: an artisan could be the equal of a member of the warrior aristocracy or a prince.

It was from this that developed the sense of dignity, quality, and conscientiousness that manifested itself in all traditional professions and organisations; the style, by virtue of which a blacksmith, carpenter or shoemaker did not appear as men degraded by their condition, but almost as “lords,” as persons who had freely chosen and exercised their activities, with love, always giving it a personal and qualitative stamp, keeping themselves aloof from the unmitigated concern for gain and profit.

The modern world, however, has by and large traveled the opposite path, the path of the systematic neglect of one’s own nature, the path of individualism, of restlessness and social climbing. Here, the ideal is no longer to be what one is, but to “construct” oneself, to involve oneself in all kinds of activities, randomly, or for completely utilitarian reasons; no longer to actuate one’s own being with serious consistency, loyalty and purity, but to use all of one’s strength to become what one is not. While individualism — the atomized, nameless, raceless, and traditionless man — is the foundation of this way of looking at things, its logical consequence has been the demand for equality, i.e., the claiming of the right to be able to be, in principle, everything that anyone else might be, while refusing to recognize any differences as more true and just than those artificially created by oneself, in terms of this or that form of a materialized and secularized civilization.

As is well-known, this form of deviancy has reached its extreme form in the Anglo-Saxon and puritan nations. Along with them, the masonic Enlightenment, democracy, and liberalism have formed a common front. Things have reached the point where many see innate and natural differences as being brute contingent facts, where every traditional point of view is seen as obscurantist and anachronistic, and one does not sense the absurdity of the idea that everything should be open to everyone, that everyone has equal rights and equal duties, that there is only one morality, which should be imposed in the same measure on everyone, in complete indifference towards different natures and different inner dignities. This is also the basis of every form of anti-racism, the denial of the values of blood and the traditional family. Thus, one can rightly speak here, without undue delicacies, of a real “civilization” of the “casteless,” of pariahs, who pride themselves in being such.

It is precisely within the framework of such a pseudo-civilization that classes come into being. Class has nothing to do with caste, it has no organic and traditional basis, but is instead an artificial social grouping, determined by extrinsic factors which are almost always of a materialistic nature. Class almost always arises on an individualistic basis, in the sense that it is the “place” that brings together all those who, through their enterprise, have climbed to the same social position, in complete independence of what they by nature truly are. These artificial groupings then tend to crystallize, thereby generating the tensions known to all. In fact, the disintegration characteristic of this type of “civilization” accomplishes the degradation of the “arts” to mere “work,” the transformation of the of the old artificer or artisan into the proletarianized “worker,” whose activity is reduced to being only a means of earning money, and who is only capable of thinking of “salaries” and “working hours.” Little by little, artificial needs, ambitions, and resentments are aroused in him, since in the end the “upper classes” no longer display any quality that might justify their superiority and their possession of a larger quantity of material goods. Thus, class struggle is one of the ultimate consequences of a society that has been denatured, and considers this denaturing, the neglect of one’s own nature and of tradition, to be a triumph and a form of progress.

Here, too, a racial background can be taken into consideration. The individualist ethic undoubtedly corresponds to a condition of the mixing of peoples and stocks, to the same extent that the ethos of being oneself corresponds to a state of prevalent racial purity. Where races are mixed, vocations become confused, it becomes more and more difficult to see clearly into one’s own being, and inner instability, which is a sign of a lack of true roots, increases (see identity crisis of biracial inidividuals). Race-mixing promotes the emergence and reinforcement of the consciousness of man as “individual,” and it also favors activities that are “free,” “creative” in the anarchic sense, shrewd “skill” and “intelligence” in the rationalistic and sterile, critical sense: all of this at the expense of the qualities of character, the dimming of the sense of dignity, of honor, of truth, of uprightness, of loyalty. Thus, a spiritually tortuous and chaotic situation is established, which, however, seems normal to many of our contemporaries. The cases of individuals full of contradictions, whose lives lack any meaning, who no longer know what they want beyond material things, who are at odds with their own tradition, their own birth and their natural destination, no longer appear to them as anomalies or monstrosities, but as part of the natural order of things, which then supposedly proves that every limit set by tradition, race and birth is artificial, absurd and oppressive.

This fundamental opposition of ethics and general vision of life, should, to a greater degree than has heretofore been the case, be taken into consideration by those who are concerned with social problems and talk of “social justice,” if they are actually to overcome the evils that they struggle with in good faith. There can be no rectifying principle, except where the absurd classist idea has been transcended by means of a return to the ethos of loyalty to one’s own nature, and hence to a well-differentiated and articulated social system. We have often said that Marxism, in many cases, did not appear because of a real “proletarian” destitution, but the other way around: it was Marxism that created a denatured proletarianized working class, full of resentment and unnatural ambitions. The most exterior forms of the evil that must be combated can be treated by means of “social justice” in the sense of a more equal distribution of material goods; but its inner root will never be destroyed, without energetic action on the level of general world-view; without reawakening the love for quality, personality, for one’s own nature; without restoring the prestige of the principle, denied only in modern times, of a just difference, in conformity with reality, and if the right conclusions are not drawn from this principle on all levels, albeit with special consideration of the type of civilization that has become prevalent in the modern world.

Source: La Vita Italiana, March 1943

https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/06/the-aryan-ethos/

@Nilgiri @Psychic @Taimur Khurram @OsmanAli98 @Metanoia @vostok @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

Dude, this is just fascist white supremacists bs. There is nothing philosophical about it.

[Edit] yup, just did a check on the source, it's a white supremacists website. Even the author is an old italian fascist.

[Edit 2] I don't understand Pakistani PDFer's fascination with fascism, especially European fascism. These fascists literally think South Asian people are sub human scum, who deserve to be eradicated.

So the question is are you 'Ary' or 'UnAry' :sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic:
 
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we are indigenous people of Pakistan

You almost certainly have foreign ancestry within you. If you had kept purity for that long, you would be disabled and extremely dark in skin colour too. I highly doubt either of which is the case with you.

Who knows he might actually be a white supremacist hiding behind a pakistani identity on this forum. How can a pakistani open a thread using white supremacist "aryan" content, it is just beyond my comprehension.

Na hes actually a Pakistani with some identity issues.

How about instead of barking ad hominems like idiots, you two actually read what the post says?
 
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You almost certainly have foreign ancestry within you. If you had kept purity for that long, you would be disabled and extremely dark in skin colour too. I highly doubt either of which is the case with you....................

I can understand why you felt insecure on my "indigenous origin" comment, could be an immigrant origin in your case(1947) that made you insecure about my comment.
 
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You almost certainly have foreign ancestry within you. If you had kept purity for that long, you would be disabled and extremely dark in skin colour too. I highly doubt either of which is the case with you.





How about instead of barking ad hominems like idiots, you two actually read what the post says?

Our ancestors were brutal and ferocious Iranic nomads who razed ancient cities and monuments of the previous inhabitants: IVC descendants and Greek-Bactrian landed aristocracy. We had no love for effeminate displays of idols and art of weaker races.

When we came to rule the region, history and culture was pretty much a blank slate, besides warfare which we knew better than any other civilization.

Islam came on a people whose loyalty became only Islam. This is how our nomadic ancestors found flat footing and rose to found some of the greatest empires the world had ever seen.
 
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Our ancestors were

Our ancestors are mostly a mix of IVC+Vedic+Iranic people who absorbed other groups in smaller numbers.

I can understand why you felt insecure on my "indigenous origin" comment, could be an immigrant origin in your case(1947) that made you insecure about my comment.

It's not an insecurity, I am pointing out that you are blatantly incorrect. You will have mixed ancestry, unless you're willing to admit you look like one of those Pacific Islander people and suffer from multiple disabilities.
 
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I love how you say qadiyani like it means anything

When these fascistic weirdos finally get there Ethno state im pretty sure they will let you stay

You of all people shouldn't use the word "Logic"
I find it quite amusing that Qadiyani's of all people, who's "religion" was created by the British, are calling me what they themselves are :lol:.

What happens in the west i could care less. Only whining faggots like you are worried because you know your @$$ will be on the chopping block. Sucks to be you I guess.

Is this some kind of Freudian dream of yours coming out into the open or something??? A very weird post. That’s like saying any time a white or black guy walks in a tiny town in Asia all the women swoon and abandon their husbands or something to make babies with an Alpha male. Um...yeah..ok...whatever you say.
This thread brought all the perverts and hypocrites out the closet it seems, which is strange considering the topic was about the caste system hierarchy in classical civilizations. We have Qadiyanis labeling others white wannabes when they're own religion was literally created by British colonists.

And we have this Nein fella posting about his own fetish for black men.

@Psychic @Nilgiri @Dewaneh @Taimur Khurram @OsmanAli98 @Metanoia
 
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Our ancestors are mostly a mix of IVC+Vedic+Iranic people who absorbed other groups in smaller numbers.

Yes, but Iranic tribes such as Scythians, Parthians, Hephthalites predominate. This is where our tribal system and culture comes from.

Less so IVC and extinct Vedic Iranics.

Then we also have Arab and Turkic-Mongol admixture from the Islamic era.

Like Turkish settlers of Anatolia, our ancestors who were Iranic migrants were fertile ground for the spread of Islam and whose loyalty, identity became wholly Islamic.

Note for readers: Where I say Iranic, it doesn’t necessarily mean any relation to modern Iran.
 
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I find it quite amusing that Qadiyani's of all people, who's "religion" was created by the British, are calling me what they themselves are :lol:.

What happens in the west i could care less. Only whining faggots like you are worried because you know your @$$ will be on the chopping block. Sucks to be you I guess.

Qadiyani's were invented by the British
Nazis were invented by the Germans i guess your both retarded you a little more so

And no iam not worries because they are gonna get beaten just like the Nazi's the confederacy Rhodesia and apartheid south Africa and then were gonna bomb Dresden again

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Yes, but Iranic tribes such as Scythians, Parthians, Hephthalites predominate. This is where our tribal system and culture comes from.

Less so IVC and extinct Vedic Iranics.

Then we also have Arab and Turkic-Mongol admixture from the Islamic era.

Like Turkish settlers of Anatolia, our ancestors who were Iranic migrants were fertile ground for the spread of Islam and whose loyalty, identity became wholly Islamic.

Note for readers: Where I say Iranic, it doesn’t necessarily mean any relation to modern Iran.

If I ever get a chance , I would p*** on the remains of these ultra-important POS iranics, scythian, parthians or hephthalites or whatever they are called to pay them my tribute.
 
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