Army to get six heavy-duty Apache attack helicopters

[Skull and Bones]

4200 crore for 6 helic isnt cost a bit too high for helicopter
just asking

The follow on orders will be cheaper. They have to make an entirely separate support infrastructure for Army.

 

[Abingdonboy]

So IAF to get 22 Apaches & now Army has signed for six.Definitely there will be further orders.

A minimum of 39 Apaches are coming for the IA but they would like 50.

@Abingdonboy Can you please tell why are we spending too much just for only two frigates?

It's a good question, these frigates certainly aren't worth $1bn each, for that price you could get 1 P-17A or P-15B which are FAR more capable.

Wow. . . .

it seems defense acquisitions are going at greater pace than our GDP rate

Not really, since Q3 2016 defence purchases have been rather slow IMHO.

what does Heavy-duty means ? is it just metaphor or means something like a Advance version of Apache ?

The IAF classifies the Apache as a "heavy attack helicopter".

Indians getting attack helis on fast track basis, while US ally Pakistan is waiting for attacks hellis since last 15 years.
What's cooking?

Why Modi is buying attack helis on fast track basis?

Not sure what you mean "fast track", the deliveries are coming 36 months after contract signing- this is the normal process.

 

[ziaulislam]

Indians getting attack helis on fast track basis, while US ally Pakistan is waiting for attacks hellis since last 15 years.
What's cooking?

Lol pakistan got dozena of cobras helicpoters fron 1980s till very recent. Now Pakistan after looking at apache and ZULUs opted for ZULUs and signed a contract for 15 ZULU in 2015-16 to get them this year, thats faster than 36 months

 

[ziaulislam]

Not sure why IAF should use apache. They should be with army aviation in my opinion

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Indians getting attack helis on fast track basis, while US ally Pakistan is waiting for attacks hellis since last 15 years.
What's cooking?

I don't know what's cooking but am sure it's cooking inside a 'bowl'

 

[Super Falcon]

Indian forces are not professional they fight each other for systems like two beggers fight for bread

 

[Abingdonboy]

Indian forces are not professional they fight each other for systems like two beggers fight for bread

Beggers fighting over the world's most advanced (and expensive) attack helicopters, I want to be this kind of begger.......

 

[Guynextdoor2]

I believe the low order numbers show that we're working on a 'low altitude' high armor version of LCH @Abingdonboy

 

[Abingdonboy]

Not sure why IAF should use apache. They should be with army aviation in my opinion

There are historic reasons, in the past the IAF wanted control of everything that flew, they opposed the Indian Navy and Army from having their own aviation wings. Whilst this has been addressed to a large degree there is still a legacy of the IAF being spoilt brats (IMHO), they think that because the current fleet of Mi-35s are in IAF control so should their replacements (AH-64Es), it has created the rather crazy situation where both the IA and IAF will operate identical assets.

They also claim they will use the Apaches for SEAD/DEAD.

I believe the low order numbers show that we're working on a 'low altitude' high armor version of LCH @Abingdonboy

Hmm, it's an interesting thought.

There's nothing that I have seen to indicate this though- 39 Apaches are assured for the IA (1 SQN each for the 3 Strike Corps) so more Apaches are coming. But I do think the IA (and IAF) will deploy LCHs to the West and not just the East/North.

In the next 10 years there's no doubt that HAL will start working on their AH-64 equivalent though.

 

[Sankpal]

these jokers will probably end up crashing the copter within months.

indian armed forces is literally the laughing stock of the world

You have to Visit Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes, who is an actual joker and ending with Crash.

You have to check Pakistan armed forces, No way near to IA.

 

[#hydra#]

There are historic reasons, in the past the IAF wanted control of everything that flew, they opposed the Indian Navy and Army from having their own aviation wings. Whilst this has been addressed to a large degree there is still a legacy of the IAF being spoilt brats (IMHO), they think that because the current fleet of Mi-35s are in IAF control so should their replacements (AH-64Es), it has created the rather crazy situation where both the IA and IAF will operate identical assets.

They also claim they will use the Apaches for SEAD/DEAD.


Hmm, it's an interesting thought.

There's nothing that I have seen to indicate this though- 39 Apaches are assured for the IA (1 SQN each for the 3 Strike Corps) so more Apaches are coming. But I do think the IA (and IAF) will deploy LCHs to the West and not just the East/North.

In the next 10 years there's no doubt that HAL will start working on their AH-64 equivalent though.

Means our own heavy class attack helicopter.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Means our own heavy class attack helicopter.

Long term? No doubt about it. Once LCH and LUH development programs are complete HAL will move onto IMRH and a heavier attack helo 100%.

 

[Kinetic]

Boeing Apache Block 64E IV is awesome.


50 of them will be great for Army.

these jokers will probably end up crashing the copter within months.

indian armed forces is literally the laughing stock of the world

hahahaha... Next we will buy Predator! You know it better than others!

 

[Gregor Clegane]

these jokers will probably end up crashing the copter within months.

indian armed forces is literally the laughing stock of the world

Lol.
It is PAF which is now famous for crashing itself into the ground.

Since January 2012 till today there have 29 crashes of IAF fighter jets whereas PAF has seen 24 fighter jet crashes i.e. a ratio of 1.21:1.

Now taking into consideration the fact the IAF is 1.8 to 2.0x the size of PAF, PAFs crash rate is significantly worse than IAF's.
In helicopter department too, January 2012 onwards Indian military saw 13 write offs & 5 damaged whereas Pakistan whose helo fleet despite being atleast 1.8x smaller saw 10 write offs & 5 damaged in same period i.e. a crash ratio of 1.30:1 which means in this department too, Pakistan crash rate is much worse.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=AP
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=VT

 

[Kinetic]

Lol.
It is PAF which is now famous for crashing itself into the ground.

Since January 2012 till today there have 29 crashes of IAF fighter jets whereas PAF has seen 24 fighter jet crashes i.e. a ratio of 1.21:1.

Now taking into consideration the fact the IAF is 1.8 to 2.0x the size of PAF, PAFs crash rate is significantly worse than IAF's.
In helicopter department too, January 2012 onwards Indian military saw 13 write offs & 5 damaged whereas Pakistan whose helo fleet despite being atleast 1.8x smaller saw 10 write offs & 5 damaged in same period i.e. a crash ratio of 1.30:1 which means in this department too, Pakistan crash rate is much worse.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=AP
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=VT

Logic and truth do n't work in his @Sully3 brain, so no use.