Army should occupy Bangladeshi land and settle illegal immigrants there

[Flynn Swagmire]

You're acting as if post-1971 you had to start from square one.

Yes...

 

[Hamza913]

Yes...

Well then you're pretty silly.

I wonder, since when the Pakistanis are worshipping Rehmat Ali as the true Father of Nation? Not bad for a rootless people who came into existence only by the struggle of the Bengali Muslims before 1947. It is very strange to note that so far any Pakistani has ever talked about the contribution of Poet Allama Iqbal in the creation of Pakistan. The ignorant brats talk about nomenclatures only.

By the way, you guys should be joyous to note that the Muslims of Bengal have not declared Nawab Salimullah of Dhaka as the Father of Nation of Pakistan, although the Muslim League itself was formed in Dhaka at his initiative.

The overwhelming majority of the major figures for Pakistani independence were not Bengali, e.g Rehmat Ali, Muhammad Iqbal, Muhammad Jinnah, etc. Bengali figures were and still are pretty much unknown in Pakistan, even whilst Bangladesh was under our authority, which only further proves how low our view of you was.

Salimullah was a proponent of Bengali separatism, not Indus separatism. Nice try though.

If Gujarat was a muslim majority province, then what would you have coined the name of your country? PIGSTAN to accommodate G? Or you guys thanks Allah all the time that Gujarat was not a muslim state and had no possibility of joining Pakistan, least they wreck havoc with that 'sacred' name? Isn't it hypocritical that, Pakistan claimed to be the homeland of all south Asian Muslims and was opened to absorb any muslim majority areas, yet defining itself with a narrow geographic location? I would say it was the original 'sin' or 'blessing in disguise' whatever you say of choosing that name which only represent certain provinces in the north western part of British India to denote the whole country which caused the violent separation in 1971.Because Bengalis could not identify with the country which was named after an acronym but excluded the vary name of their province.

It also mean, no other part of south Asia can feel 'included' even if they came under Pakistani rules as the result of much dreamed of ''Gwaza-e-Hind'' ever materialize even in dream.

I think, Indians should explore the option of renaming the state of Jammu & Kashmir to just Jammu or any other name to destroy the Pakistani claim over the state on the ground of 'K' in PAKISTAN.Perhaps it would be a big psychological weapon against Pakistan and solve the Kashmir problem on India's favor.
@KAMDEV

If any other places were to be accommodated, the name could still remain the same since Pakistan also means land of the pure, but we could alternatively adopt a different title if need be (e.g Islamistan, United Muslim Provinces of South Asia, etc).

Yes, we were and still are the homeland for all South Asian Muslims, but you guys did not view yourselves as Muslim first, and as a result we never viewed you as equals (it didn't help that you were and still are culturally alien to us). Also, you were and still are too far away, which is another reason why many of us initially objected to you joining Pakistan since it would be pretty difficult to manage you guys with a massive country like Hindustan in between us.

Don't worry, most of the people from Bangladesh that loved Pakistan and viewed themselves as Muslim first moved here post 1971, just like the Muhajirs did.

They can call Kashmir whatever they want, it will still always be called Kashmir.

 

[UKBengali]

Yes, we were and still are the homeland for all South Asian Muslims, but you guys did not view yourselves as Muslim first, and as a result we never viewed you as equals (it didn't help that you were and still are culturally alien to us). Also, you were and still are too far away, which is another reason why many of us initially objected to you joining Pakistan since it would be pretty difficult to manage you guys with a massive country like Hindustan in between us.

Don't worry, most of the people from Bangladesh that loved Pakistan and viewed themselves as Muslim first moved here post 1971, just like the Muhajirs did.

They can call Kashmir whatever they want, it will still always be called Kashmir.

Dude you are looking at things from just one-side.

Bd has it's faults but is by far the best economy in the whole of S Asia for the last 2 decades. Economic growth is near 8% a year with population growth brought down to 1%.
If you do not believe BD GDP growth figures then just talk to IMF,ADB, World Bank etc who do.
There is ample evidence on the ground with electricity consumption tripling in the last decade, massive infrastructure projects going in all over the country and the debt coming down from 37 to only 27% of GDP. BD has not grown by borrowing vast amounts of money like Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka - it has mainly been done by using it's own resources.

Yes BD has issues to deal with but it is a model of how a highly dense country with little resources can still grow at high rates for decade after decade.

 

[Hamza913]

Muktis were fighting all along. They have already broken the teeth of PA troops when you chose to be a part of our war to get credit for yourselves. How many IA troops got killed in that war? It was only 1300.

My God, then how do you claim an IA victory was due to its own skill and not due to Mukti sacrifices and skill? Yes, I agree IA supported us with big guns from the behind, but the main frontal attacks were carried out by the Muktis.

Roughly 4,000 Hindustani troops died in 1971 (I'm including Western front casualties as well), in comparison Pakistan lost roughly 8,000 troops/pro-Pakistani insurgents, and Bangladeshi insurgents lost roughly 30,000 men. There's also the fact that 3,000 of those Pakistani soldier/insurgent deaths occurred once Hindustan had intervened, which means the ratio was 6:1 in our favour prior to their intervention. So who got their teeth kicked in again? I haven't even included the 3,000,000.

Bangladeshi insurgents did a good job, but they weren't going to win anytime soon (if ever). Hindustan is the reason you got independence, because when they came into the game the eastern command was not only outnumbered 15:1, but also at a severe disadvantage in terms of equipment.

 

[UKBengali]

Roughly 4,000 Hindustani troops died in 1971 (I'm including Western front casualties as well), in comparison Pakistan lost roughly 8,000 troops/pro-Pakistani insurgents, and Bangladeshi insurgents lost roughly 30,000 men. There's also the fact that 3,000 of those Pakistani soldier/insurgent deaths occurred once Hindustan had intervened, which means the ratio was 6:1 in our favour prior to their intervention. So who got their teeth kicked in again? I haven't even included the 3,000,000.

Bangladeshi insurgents did a good job, but they weren't going to win anytime soon (if ever). Hindustan is the reason you got independence, because when they came into the game the eastern command was not only outnumbered 15:1, but also at a severe disadvantage in terms of equipment.

Pakistan would have eventually lost(2-3 years) as your economy was being battered by the military spending.
Without an economy you cannot support a military.

 

[Hamza913]

Dude you are looking at things from just one-side.

Bd has it's faults but is by far the best economy in the whole of S Asia for the last 2 decades. Economic growth is near 8% a year with population growth brought down to 1%.
If you do not believe BD GDP growth figures then just talk to IMF,ADB, World Bank etc who do.
There is ample evidence on the ground with electricity consumption tripling in the last decade, massive infrastructure projects going in all over the country and the debt coming down from 37 to only 27% of GDP. BD has not grown by borrowing vast amounts of money like Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka - it has mainly been done by using it's own resources.

Yes BD has issues to deal with but it is a model of how a highly dense country with little resources can still grow at high rates for decade after decade.

When it comes to this crap about Bangladesh having the best economy in South Asia among other things, I'll leave it to @Nilgiri to debunk your stupid claims (as he's done numerous times before). I will just laugh at you.

 

[UKBengali]

When it comes to this crap about Bangladesh having the best economy in South Asia among other things, I'll leave it to @Nilgiri to debunk your stupid claims (as he's done numerous times before). I will just laugh at you.

Like I say IMF, World Bank and ADB are more credible than any Tamil butt-hurt, just like a Pakistani butt-hurt like you.
1971 was nearly 50 years ago and you need to accept you lost and move on buddy.

 

[Hamza913]

Pakistan would have eventually lost(2-3 years) as your economy was being battered by the military spending.
Without an economy you cannot support a military.

You assume Bangladesh could have kept on fighting for that long. By the time you declared independence, you had already lost 3,000,000 people and another 10,000,000 had fled to Hindustan. The Pakistani military cracked down on you guys hard and I really don't think you would have been able to handle it for that long.

1971 was nearly 50 years ago and you need to accept you lost and move on buddy.

I don't really care about it too much, I view Pakistan losing Bangladesh the same way Englishmen view losing British India. You guys were just a glorified colony.

But what does bother me is you guys refusing to let go of it by persecuting random people to this day over it.

 

[Black_cats]

You assume Bangladesh could have kept on fighting for that long. By the time you declared independence, you had already lost 3,000,000 people and another 10,000,000 had fled to Hindustan. The Pakistani military cracked down on you guys hard and I really don't think you would have been able to handle it for that long.



I don't really care about it too much, I view Pakistan losing Bangladesh the same way Englishmen view losing British India. You guys were just a glorified colony.

But what does bother me is you guys refusing to let go of it by persecuting random people to this day over it.

Whatever gloat your boat.... Now the reality has been explained in this article. Bangladesh is ahead of Pakistan in almost all economic indicator.

East overtakes west
Bangladesh’s GDP per person is now higher than Pakistan’s

https://www.economist.com/asia/2017/09/07/bangladeshs-gdp-per-person-is-now-higher-than-pakistans

Now come out of your dream and get back to reality and educate yourself and your country's youth to increase literacy rate.

 

[Hamza913]

Whatever gloat your boat.... Now the reality has been explained in this article. Bangladesh is ahead of Pakistan in almost all economic indicator.

East overtakes west
Bangladesh’s GDP per person is now higher than Pakistan’s

https://www.economist.com/asia/2017/09/07/bangladeshs-gdp-per-person-is-now-higher-than-pakistans

Now come out of your dream and get back to reality and educate yourself and your country's youth to increase literacy rate.

https://tradingeconomics.com/bangladesh/gdp-per-capita

https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/gdp-per-capita

By the way, per capita PPP is more accurate, and isn't the only factor that should be used to determine which country is better than another.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Well then you're pretty silly.

OK...

 

[Black_cats]

https://tradingeconomics.com/bangladesh/gdp-per-capita

https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/gdp-per-capita

By the way, per capita PPP is more accurate, and isn't the only factor that should be used to determine which country is better than another.

Dude instead of remaining in your fancy world you should come to reality. It is now 1733 USD for Bangladesh in terms of nominal and 1629 usd for per capita gdp nominal for Pakistan. Do not embarrass yourself more. In 2-3 years total GDP (nominal) will also overtake as well despite having only 25% less population.

Bangladesh:

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2018/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=21&pr.y=6&sy=2016&ey=2023&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=513&s=NGDPD,PPPGDP,NGDPDPC,PPPPC&grp=0&a=

Pakistan:

http://www.finance.gov.pk/survey/chapters_17/Economic_Indicators.pdf

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

https://tradingeconomics.com/bangladesh/gdp-per-capita

https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/gdp-per-capita

By the way, per capita PPP is more accurate, and isn't the only factor that should be used to determine which country is better than another.

I would say Pakistan is better than Bangladesh. So better that you guys managed to archive 61% children immunization rate and life expectancy of 66 years (2016 data from WB website)!

And what puny Bangladesh archived with its lol economy? Just 94% children immunization rate and 72 years of life expectancy (2016 data from WB website)!

I believe Pakistan shall not be compared with country like Bangladesh! Because, Pakistan is 2 decades plus older than little Bangladesh...

 

[UKBengali]

You assume Bangladesh could have kept on fighting for that long. By the time you declared independence, you had already lost 3,000,000 people and another 10,000,000 had fled to Hindustan. The Pakistani military cracked down on you guys hard and I really don't think you would have been able to handle it for that long.



I don't really care about it too much, I view Pakistan losing Bangladesh the same way Englishmen view losing British India. You guys were just a glorified colony.

But what does bother me is you guys refusing to let go of it by persecuting random people to this day over it.

Dude, 3 million is just AL propaganda to make Pakistan look like the Nazis.
It was around 2-300,000 dead on all sides.

This convo is pointless and so no point carrying on.

 

[ghost250]

Dude instead of remaining in your fancy world you should come to reality. It is now 1733 USD for Bangladesh in terms of nominal and 1629 usd for per capita gdp nominal for Pakistan. Do not embarrass yourself more. In 2-3 years total GDP (nominal) will also overtake as well despite having only 25% less population.

Bangladesh:

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2018/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=21&pr.y=6&sy=2016&ey=2023&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=513&s=NGDPD,PPPGDP,NGDPDPC,PPPPC&grp=0&a=

Pakistan:

http://www.finance.gov.pk/survey/chapters_17/Economic_Indicators.pdf

but but but nilgiri said otherwise....

Whatever gloat your boat.... Now the reality has been explained in this article. Bangladesh is ahead of Pakistan in almost all economic indicator.

East overtakes west
Bangladesh’s GDP per person is now higher than Pakistan’s

https://www.economist.com/asia/2017/09/07/bangladeshs-gdp-per-person-is-now-higher-than-pakistans

Now come out of your dream and get back to reality and educate yourself and your country's youth to increase literacy rate.

they now worship hagugiri as god..