Army mulls legal action over BBC report

[Irfan Baloch]

BBC shuld be packed from pakistan forever .its not first time but most the time there new base on anti pakistan anti islamic .

no its ok let them work and challenge them and prove them wrong through evidence.
yes they have their own corporate interests but thats how its all played

they wont gain anything by posting pro-Pakistan stories , that will spell a disaster for a corporation that is already cutting costs and sacking its staff to save money, it cant risk loosing viewer ship by publishing and broadcasting Pro-Pakistan stories

 

[ramu]

why so much fuss over a damn tv documentary?-
i watched it like i watch bollywood- all fake but entertaining-
and some things in the documentary really made me Proud-

ISI & Pak Fouj Zindabad-

Jalnay walon ka mun kala-

International opinion will change once such documentaries becomes routine. It will be easier for countries to convince their constituencies that Pakistan is a threat and something should be done. Once that is done, Pakistan will have an uphill task.

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no its ok let them work and challenge them and prove them wrong through evidence.
yes they have their own corporate interests but thats how its all played

they wont gain anything by posting pro-Pakistan stories , that will spell a disaster for a corporation that is already cutting costs and sacking its staff to save money, it cant risk loosing viewer ship by publishing and broadcasting Pro-Pakistan stories

0 introspection is the hallmark of Pakistan. When Channel 4 presented a documentary on Mumbai 26/11, the world turned around and saw what India was saying. Dont underestimate the power of media.

 

[ashok321]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204505304577001911074081468.html

WASHINGTON—A top-ranking U.S. commander in Afghanistan said there have been incidents of "local collaboration" between units of Pakistan's Frontier Corps, a government security force, and insurgent groups, which have allowed militants in Pakistan to fire shells at U.S. and Afghan troops in Afghanistan.

 

[Punjabbi Munda]

Talk about double standards..other day you ll post all the anti India trash from BBC and when it goes against you,you call the whole firm a trash!

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Talk about double standards..other day you ll post all the anti India trash from BBC and when it goes against you,you call the whole firm a trash!

double standards?

they are triple standards man

I will tell you how

Post 9/11 Pakistan & USA have a shotgun wedding and they agree to help each other in WoT
- so far single standard, both help each other and that help leads to capture of some big AQ and Taliban names.
- It becomes double when Pakistan allegedly starts helping Taliban
- It becomes triple standard when its sworn to help America, but allegedly helps Taliban & also lets them kill its soldiers and citizens 30k+ and counting.

So indeed it makes perfect sense to help Taliban so that they can continue to kill the citizens and soldiers of not only Afghanistan but also of its own country.

Wow I am impressed that how Pakistan army is able to fool Americans and Taliban and its own people and itself too. Despite all these incriminating reports, theses and talkshows it is continuing to get American funds and allegedly still helping Taliban, because the Northern Alliance spokesmen and the captured Taliban say so.

But the real heroes are Taliban, who are able to kill both the Pakistanis and NATO soldiers and the citizens of both countries and don’t even get the blame when they meet the Americans in secret meetings that are arranged by the ISI.

Dont underestimate the power of media.

No we dont, it does wonders in its selective reporting. the major opinion maker.
stuff the facts, what matters today is called popular opinion and that sells.

 

[Mabs]

They would be stupid to do so - it will only give the allegations made in the Opinion piece, even more coverage - just ignore it, there was no need to comment on it -- but Ghairat had to be satisfied I suppose and ofc ourse the results speak for themselves

When they don't do something, you accuse them of being reactive and not understanding the power and usefulness of the media and when they do decide to harness that power, you come out with your Ghairat theory. Violent mood swings perhaps ?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

When they don't do something, you accuse them of being reactive and not understanding the power and usefulness of the media and when they do decide to harness that power, you come out with your Ghairat theory. Violent mood swings perhaps ?

read his post again
did you understand what he is saying?
and do tell how can Pakistan be "reactive" if they dont do anything? that's impassive ..

your rest of the post is lost, I think your mixed up your analogy while writing it down.
Review your post again.

He has a valid point, if the reporting of BBC or anyone else for that matter will decide how fast we respond to every single reporting then there wont be anything else to do.
Sometimes its best to ignore these media stunts because they are actually meant to cause a reaction from the accused and that’s the actual aim and then they rub on it.

Pakistan has made itself clear many times with the US leaders privately, through diplomatic channels and even openly and there is nothing enough to explain.

 

[ramu]

Post 9/11 Pakistan & USA have a shotgun wedding and they agree to help each other in WoT
- so far single standard, both help each other and that help leads to capture of some big AQ and Taliban names.
- It becomes double when Pakistan allegedly starts helping Taliban
- It becomes triple standard when its sworn to help America, but allegedly helps Taliban & also lets them kill its soldiers and citizens 30k+ and counting.

Small correction : No Taliban leader remotely close to the main leadership till date has been captured by Pakistan.

But you managed to arrest one of the Taliban leaders who was interested in speaking to Government of Afghanistan hopefully for peace. Well you wont like that will you ?

 

[Drawn_Sword_of_God]

Small correction : No Taliban leader remotely close to the main leadership till date has been captured by Pakistan.

thats because they are in afghanistan

 

[desiman]

You cant take action over something that could be true, the army will think twice before taking on the BBC, you dont want the whole world's attention specially when you know that your wrong.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You cant take action over something that could be true, the army will think twice before taking on the BBC, you dont want the whole world's attention specially when you know that your wrong.

It is not true - however, legally, the BBC can simply claim that it reported what the alleged 'Taliban commanders' told it - it is the alleged Taliban commanders that are lying, not the BBC, which is merely reporting.

The BBC could be accused of presenting a one sided story and not verifying the facts, and in the process maligning and damaging the institutions against whom the allegations were made. I am not sure whether the BBC can be held responsible for slander/defamation because it did not validate the claims being made and obtain the PA's side of the story.

 

[karan.1970]

It is not true - however, legally, the BBC can simply claim that it reported what the alleged 'Taliban commanders' told it - it is the alleged Taliban commanders that are lying, not the BBC, which is merely reporting.

The BBC could be accused of presenting a one sided story and not verifying the facts, and in the process maligning and damaging the institutions against whom the allegations were made. I am not sure whether the BBC can be held responsible for slander/defamation because it did not validate the claims being made and obtain the PA's side of the story.

True ! You can accuse them of bias, lack of professionalism, but thats where it will end.. Also, I dont believe PA (and even USA) would want nosy journalists on BBC payroll poking around in the incestuous dealings between CIA, ISI and Taliban

 

[Cool_Soldier]

long term propaganda without knowing ground realities and facts.

 

[Safriz]

If a case is filed, it would be in British courts -- the jurisdiction where the slander occured.

On the contrary,British Judiciary always had friction with the establishment and a well presented case against BBC has good chances of success...Cases against the Royal family never succeed.

 

[Mabs]

read his post again
did you understand what he is saying?
and do tell how can Pakistan be "reactive" if they dont do anything? that's impassive ..

your rest of the post is lost, I think your mixed up your analogy while writing it down.
Review your post again.

He has a valid point, if the reporting of BBC or anyone else for that matter will decide how fast we respond to every single reporting then there wont be anything else to do.
Sometimes its best to ignore these media stunts because they are actually meant to cause a reaction from the accused and that’s the actual aim and then they rub on it.

Pakistan has made itself clear many times with the US leaders privately, through diplomatic channels and even openly and there is nothing enough to explain.

You ignore someone or a certain group when they hurl accusations at you every once in a while but when someone is constantly blaming you for something, you have to stand up and let the people hear your side of the story. Have we not seen the power of media during the recent Iraq war when the Bush and Blair administrations were able to sell the war just by constantly barraging the people with what they know and will happen if Iraq is not invaded ?

What do you suggest we do, just sit back and let them yap their narrative while we wait for the hidden hand of God to appear and bail us out of our troubles ? I, for one think that PA is reactive and not proactive in its approach. Instead of coming out when someone says something and reacting to iy, it should take the initiative and be proactive. Why not team up with a private production house and enter into a JV and make a movie on Pakistan's effort in Wot ? We have plenty of movies which glorify the American military escapades be it in Vietnam or Afghanistan, why can't there be one highlighting the efforts of the Pakistani soldiers ? It could be something like the "Band of Brothers", we have plenty of WoT operations to go around. Just do something instead of just sitting there and sipping on your tea.