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Armed forces say no to advanced versions of indigenous 'Tejas', 'Arjun'

Rajat Pandit| TNN | Updated: Nov 13, 2017, 01:49 IST
HIGHLIGHTS
  • The defence budgets have very little money for new projects with the bulk of the capital being used for instalments of deals inked earlier.
  • Forces say the DRDO-defence PSU lobby “over-promises and then under-delivers” with huge time and cost overruns.
  • DRDO contends the forces continue to cold-shoulder indigenous platforms in their hunger to acquire foreign ones.


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The Arjun Mark II, during developmental trials in Pokhran field firing range in Rajasthan. (TOI File Photo)
NEW DELHI: The armed forces have virtually given the thumbs down to the proposed advanced versions of the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft and Arjun main-battle tank by strongly pitching for mega acquisitions of foreign single-engine fighters and futuristic armoured fighting vehicles through the 'Make in India' route under the 'strategic partnership (SP)' policy.

The Army last week issued the preliminary tender or request for information (RFI) to global armament giants for an initial 1,770 futuristic tanks called the future ready combat vehicles (FRCVs) geared for "rapid dominance in an expanded battle space", while the IAF is getting set to do the same for 114 single-engine fighters soon.

This comes in the backdrop of the defence ministry finalising the SP policy in May to boost the country's fledgling defence production sector, which envisages Indian private sector companies producing cutting-edge weapon systems in collaboration with global arms majors through joint ventures and technology transfers, as earlier reported by TOI.

The going will, however, not be easy for IAF and Army. For one, the annual defence budgets now have very little money for new projects with the bulk of the capital outlay being used for "committed liabilities" or instalments of deals inked earlier. IAF's single-engine fighter project, which will be a direct dogfight between the Gripen-E (Sweden) and F-16 (US) jets, for instance, will alone cost an estimated Rs 1.15 lakh crore.

For another, the DRDO-defence PSU lobby is putting up stiff resistance, leading the government to question the need for the single-engine fighter project. "Questions have also been raised whether such a major project should be given to the private sector. Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), in turn, says it can deliver a much better single-engine Tejas," said a source.

DRDO contends the forces continue to cold-shoulder indigenous platforms in their hunger to acquire foreign ones. Instead of ordering say around 500 Arjun tanks, which would have stabilised production lines, achieved economies of scale and paved the way for development of a futuristic MBT, the Army has inducted only 124 Arjun Mark-1 tanks till now.

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Arjun tank display during the exhibition 'Science for Soldiers' organised by DRDO at Ava


The Army is not willing to order 118 Arjun Mark-II tanks, costing over Rs 6,600 crore, till they clear field trials. "The FRCV project, if it takes off, will kill the indigenous FMBT project," said a scientist.


But all this cuts little ice with the forces, which say the DRDO-defence PSU lobby "over-promises and then under-delivers" with huge time and cost overruns. "Can operational military readiness be sacrificed at the altar of indigenisation?" asked a lieutenant general.



IAF, for instance, says Tejas is yet to become combat-ready or achieve "final operational clearance" after being in the making for over three decades. "Moreover, with its limited range and weapon carrying capacity, the Tejas simply does not give IAF the punch and cost-effectiveness it needs. Tejas, which has just about 50% of the capabilities of an F-16 or Gripen in terms of endurance, payload etc, will have to fly under the protection of other fighters during conflicts," said an officer.




Grappling with just 33 fighter squadrons when 42 are need to take care of the "collusive threat" from China and Pakistan, the IAF feels the single-engine fighter project is necessary to maintain adequate force-levels till an entirely new Tejas Mark-2 becomes a reality.
 
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...sions-of-tejas-arjun/articleshow/61620740.cms

In short

Tejas is JUNK
Arjun is JUNK

Indian military says they want NO MORE tejas or Arjuna

124 arjun mk1 are mostly broken down and worthless, Mark 2 arjun is very poor

Tejas is a lemon, military want no more then the 123 forced upon them by government

Let's be honest we Pakistanis have said this for decades only the Indian fanboys were deluded


I hope you Indian fanboys have learnt your lesson
 
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Indian forces should better mend their ways and should embrace the great Make in India initiative of modi ji
 
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Tejas isn't that bad.

Not sure about Arjun though.
 
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Lol just spoken the truth

IAF is superior air Force it wants rafale and Gripen E which are Western high end top quality fighters


What GOI given them is options compared to cheap knoch-ups of Chinese like

Jf-17 and Al Khalid


Our military budget enough to tell you that
lol at least we can make stuff ingenious unlike your Arjun junk and tejas garbage.
 
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Lol compare GDP per capita PPP for both India Pakistan it gives enough sense
Your GDP per capita is only slightly higher than Pakistan.

For 1.3 billion people that is pretty bad. We have a population of 220 million people :D.
 
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Your GDP per capita is only slightly higher than Pakistan.

For 1.3 billion people that is pretty bad. We have a population of 220 million people :D.
Lol you exposed Pakistan in your own post

Hindustan's still poor, with a higher percentage of those under the poverty line and less people with toilets.

:D
Lol our poverty percentage is still lower comparable to you
 
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