Arjun News & Discussions

[DMLA]

Please this thread is about arjun orders..... not indian or chinese defence industry! I would urge everyone to STAY ON TOPIC!

 

[DMLA]

A couple of weeks back there was a thread regarding the evaluation of Arjun against T90 tanks, i was wondering what was the follow up on that

It was an evaluation to fine tune the operational doctrine of arjun MBT's in IA. It is slated for sometime in march/april. The results will not have any bearing on Arjun's place in IA. IA in a written report to the difince ministry has stated that it is more than satisfied with the Arjun. It would seem that they are placing more orders soon.

However, Arjun will see some changes (hopefully) and the mk-II may well see larger orders (if and when it rolls out). The truth is that IA's next generation tank is atleast 10-15 years away and this provides a great opportunity for a bigger Arjun order and replacing many of the older T-72's with the same.

 

[Choppers]

A couple of weeks back there was a thread regarding the evaluation of Arjun against T90 tanks, i was wondering what was the follow up on that

Different battle arenas for twin tanks
Arjun and Bhishma to coexist​

Unlike the epic Mahabharata, the Indian Army’s lead tanks named after legendary warriors ‘Arjun’ and ‘Bhishma’ will coexist and will be deployed in different battle arenas in the future. At present, a “deployment” trials are being conducted in the deserts of Rajasthan, where 14 of the home-grown Arjun tanks face the Russian origin T-90 - christened Bhishma - by the Indian Army.

The Indian Army is likely to order more Arjun tanks rather than depend entirely on the Russian tanks, sources said. The chief of the Defence Research and Development Organisation, Dr VK Saraswat, says: “We are expecting a repeat order of the Arjun tanks in the near future”.

Separately, sources said two more regiments - some 124 tanks - of the Arjun series are likely to be inducted. An announcement is likely after the “deployment” trials are over. Saraswat clarified the comparative evaluation referred to in media reports was nothing but a trial of the tank’s role. “It is a process to identify the role the tank will play and will not be comparative between the two tanks,” he added.

The Indian Army had ordered two regiments of the Arjun but had then showed reluctance to accept more. The trials will show the true picture. Commanders of the Indian Army, who in the past have been critical of the Arjun, have slowly come around and now say that the two tanks are of different classes and cannot be compared with each other.

The Arjun at 58.5-tonne is much heavier than the 46.5 tonne T-90. But with more powerful engines the Arjun moves faster than the T-90. It is ideal for deployment in the arid Rajasthan-Gujarat sector facing Pakistan.

The Arjun has better and latest systems on board. It has better transmission system than the T-90, accurate firepower while on the move. The Arjun has better thermal imaging capability, enabling it night vision.

The night vision capability of T-90 is of lower category. It malfunctions in the heat of Rajasthan, says an in-house input of the Indian Army. The Army plans to have 1,650 T-90s in the next few years. The production has been localised and the first tanks built in India rolled out a few months ago.

 

[LCA Tejas]

No, and China should never seek to achieve such 100% self sufficient.

The problem here is india is importing everything, while China is building most of its weapons.

it is also funny that whenever this issue is raised, indians start crying "your weapons are copied from russia/us". I am wondering if we fly J-11B over the sky of new delhi and start bombing your building, what kind of reaction we would get from indians? indians start protesting that China should attack india using weapons that have a clean copyright record?

Nop.... our aircrafts will welcome Your J-11 B in beijing....

 

[shchinese]

Nop.... our aircrafts will welcome Your J-11 B in beijing....

hope your aricraft won't crash on its way.

how many indian mig crashes we had in the past 5 years?

 

[faithfulguy]

Nop.... our aircrafts will welcome Your J-11 B in beijing....

It is not necessary to respond to a provocation. It will just totally derail this thread. He is taking you for a ride. Its up to you to go on the ride with him.

 

[LCA Tejas]

hope your aricraft won't crash on its way.

how many indian mig crashes we had in the past 5 years?

Oh god.... well we will repeat it in bejing.... anyways we will not be welcoming you with MIG, we have MKI's buddy....

 

[Tejas-MkII]

A couple of weeks back there was a thread regarding the evaluation of Arjun against T90 tanks, i was wondering what was the follow up on that

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Main News

At present, a “deployment” trials are being conducted in the deserts of Rajasthan, where 14 of the home-grown Arjun tanks face the Russian origin T-90 - christened Bhishma - by the Indian Army.

Now the trail changed from comparative trail to deployment trail.. which clearly indiacte the induction of Arjun into IA is much moother than before..

An announcement is likely after the “deployment” trials are over. Saraswat clarified the comparative evaluation referred to in media reports was nothing but a trial of the tank’s role. “It is a process to identify the role the tank will play and will not be comparative between the two tanks,” he added.

Commanders of the Indian Army, who in the past have been critical of the Arjun, have slowly come around and now say that the two tanks are of different classes and cannot be compared with each other.

 

[Choppers]

Arjun vs T 90: Tank trials to kick off next month​

After immense pressure from the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) the Army has decided to go ahead with comparative trials between the Arjun tank and the T 90 Main Battle Tank (MBT) next month. While it will be interesting to see how the ‘indigenous’ tank holds up to the Russian origin mainstay of the Indian Army, the unfairness of comparing two totally different tanks has rankled experts both within and outside the military establishment.

On the face of it, both DRDO and the Army say that the comparative trials are not actually a competition between the tanks but are aimed at defining and finding a role for the Arjun in India’s armoured fleet. However, the Army is feeling the heat from DRDO which is aggressively marketing the trials as a testing point that could pave the way for more orders for the Arjun from the present cap of 124 units

:: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::.

 

[shchinese]

no difference from my point of view, you have to import almost all major parts for arjun.

 

[Cityboy]

thanx for entertainment shcinese. keep refrashing us from ur great jokes.u rox

 

[black flame]

no difference from my point of view, you have to import almost all major parts for arjun.

it doesn't matter what No matter how much u troll Arjun is a good tank all it matters is how good is the tank in the battle field and how fast and accurately it can destroy the enemy target ........... ooh ur worried that u will loose a name with which u can troll so u did the same with LCA and now its arjun is also proved itself and ya keep trolling
more over even USA so do uk and Russia imports parts and components from israles and europe it dose not matter, it is developed in india and not reversed engineered that gives satisfaction to all the indians...............

 

[LCA Tejas]

no difference from my point of view, you have to import almost all major parts for arjun.

Pathetic reply from a frustrated fellow .

 

[sab]

no difference from my point of view, you have to import almost all major parts for arjun.

Still you are using Russian engines for J10 and JF 17, and such a aircraft you have given to Pakistan (JF 17) that they are eager to change Chinese avionics and Radars with Europian ones. Come back to troll when you becomes self-reliant.

 

[chinapakistan]

Still you are using Russian engines for J10 and JF 17, and such a aircraft you have given to Pakistan (JF 17) that they are eager to change Chinese avionics and Radars with Europian ones. Come back to troll when you becomes self-reliant.

Our WS-10 has already come out. And maybe we are using some foriegn part but there is no comparision between china and a nation only importing almost all major parts for his weapon(most of are imported with whole). And I aslo think there is no comparision between china's militory industry and a nation even cant provide stable electrisic power.