Arjun News & Discussions

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Arjun tank wins the battle for supremacy: Rediff.com News

Is this tank een being produced anymore I heard it was scraped or is schedualed to be scraped in faour of a older russian tank? I saw that message poste here on this forum what is going on

One day we see a message that AJ tank is tanked and next moment we get counter press release - there should me more consistency is this the Indian tank or is it still a prototype

 

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Is this tank een being produced anymore I heard it was scraped or is schedualed to be scraped in faour of a older russian tank? I saw that message poste here on this forum what is going on

One day we see a message that AJ tank is tanked and next moment we get counter press release - there should me more consistency is this the Indian tank or is it still a prototype

yaar ARJUN TANK HAD ITS SHARE OF PROBLEMS IN THE PAST,BUT NOW DRDO HAS OVERCOME ALL OF THOSE PROBLEMS,THE ARMY WAS HESITANT ABOUT PROCURING MORE ARJUN TANKS SAYING THAT IT HAD PROBLEMS WITH THIS AND THAT,ACTUALLY ITS A TANK WHICHA HAS BEEN MADE SPECIALLY FOR THE INDIAN ARMY REQUIREMENTS LAID DOWN BY DGMF..TO SHOW THAT THE TANK IT BETTER THEN ANYTHING CURRENTLY IN OUR AMRMY'S INVENTORY DRDO PITHCHED ITS MACHINE AGAINST THE T-90,AND THE ARJUN OUTGUNNED AND OUT RAN T-90 IN ALMOST ALL PARAMETERS,MAY BE YOU SHOULD GO DOWN A FEW PAGES N SEE HOW A TANK IT IS,ALSO THIS KIND OF CAMAPARITIVE TRIAL IS ONE OF ITS OWN KIND IT GOES TO SHOW THE CONFIDENCE LEVEL OF DRDO AFTER OVEWR COMMING EVERY OBSTACLE
ITS A LESSON FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN MAKING MOCKERY OF THIS TANK,IT HAS PROOVED ITS WORTH,NOW LETS SEE HOW THE INDIAN ARMY GOES ABOUT IT,DO READ THE PREVIOUS POST ON THIS THREAD TO ENLIGHTEN YOURSELF MORE

 

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Arjun performed better than 'Bhishma' in comparative trials :: Brahmand.com

 

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nothing new. we all have heard this kind of news before....lca, arjun, stealth warship, insas, cryogenic engine; etc...

 

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Arjun rocks........ Those who insult , keep on insulting, but the world knows the potential of the tank which has Out gunned one of the world best tank T-90. Hope Army orders around 500 and allow DRDO to take up the project of futuristic MBT

 

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Arjun performed better than 'Bhishma' in comparative trials :: Brahmand.com

NEW DELHI (PTI): The indigenously-built Arjun tanks have performed better than the Russian origin T-90 'Bhishma' in the comparative trials to determine the future main battle tank of the Indian Army.

The final results of the comparative trials between the two tanks in the Thar desert are expected to be finalised in around a week's time, where the Arjun performed well in all the three tasks that the two tanks had to accomplish, Defence Ministry officials said here.
For the trials, 14 Arjuna tanks faced an equal number of the T-90s and each squadron was given three tasks, including driving more than 150 km in the deserts, shooting at targets while moving and static mode and to drive through a water channel.

The outcome of the trials will determine the future of the Arjuns and their operational roles in the Army, which has placed orders for only 124 of them, the officials said.

The DRDO, on the other hand, wants the Army to place order for at least 500 tanks, so that it can work on developing the futuristic MBT for the Army.

Former minister of state for Defence Rao Inderjit Singh, had said the earlier trials of the Arjun were "rigged" to soot down the possibility of the DRDO getting more orders from the Army.

The Arjun project was approved in 1974 and was supposed to help replace its ageing fleet of T-55 and T-72 tanks but delays in the programme prompted the Army to go in for the Russian T-90s.

The Army has signed contracts worth over Rs 8,000 crores with Russia for supplying 647 T-90s and the Heavy vehicles factory in Avadi will also manufacture 1,000 of these machines under license from Russia, they said.

 

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Man Our Arjun has evolved a lot, turned out to be among the best in the world.. I too am surprised by how DRDO developed this, which was once Criticized by the world for its low rate of fire, accuracy,speed, Breakdown problem, DRDO after a few years rectified all of it and challenged the army to Compare Arjun with the best in its arsenal T-90 "Bhishma" which is also among the best in the world...

But the problem with arjun is, its not stealthy... The designing

 

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Man Our Arjun has evolved a lot, turned out to be among the best in the world.. I too am surprised by how DRDO developed this, which was once Criticized by the world for its low rate of fire, accuracy,speed, Breakdown problem, DRDO after a few years rectified all of it and challenged the army to Compare Arjun with the best in its arsenal T-90 "Bhishma" which is also among the best in the world...

But the problem with arjun is, its not stealthy... The designing

BUDDY e problems have not been rectified in just one day,a lot of diligent work has gone to make it successful,the very concept of trial against a world class tank like the T-90 speaks volumes about the confidence its manufacturers have in thier machine

let army order a good number of mk1 version cz mk2's entry stage is all set and it will not take long fr drdo to roll out the new prototypes nows
latest Defence news blog or website: India to develop a futuristic tank based on Arjun

 

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BUDDY e problems have not been rectified in just one day,a lot of diligent work has gone to make it successful,the very concept of trial against a world class tank like the T-90 speaks volumes about the confidence its manufacturers have in thier machine

let army order a good number of mk1 version cz mk2's entry stage is all set and it will not take long fr drdo to roll out the new prototypes nows
latest Defence news blog or website: India to develop a futuristic tank based on Arjun

Yes, the next futuristic MBT will not take much time for DRDO, we have gained experiance in this field by putting forth a Tank which has more caliber than the T-90 in all the fields....

But I would like to thank Russia, for being with us in all the walks of our life, couldnt have advanced in this field without russia.... Their Moral support is of great significance for Us.... Thanks a lot Russia

 

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Man Our Arjun has evolved a lot, turned out to be among the best in the world.. I too am surprised by how DRDO developed this, which was once Criticized by the world for its low rate of fire, accuracy,speed, Breakdown problem, DRDO after a few years rectified all of it and challenged the army to Compare Arjun with the best in its arsenal T-90 "Bhishma" which is also among the best in the world...

But the problem with arjun is, its not stealthy... The designing

If so, id would be easy to modify the turret and order it in numbers, but it seems that neither stealthy design, nor fire accuracy, nor armour are the problems for IA. Their main reason against it seems to be (at least from what is known before the official report is out) the weight and the logistics that are not suited for Arjun.

Yes, the next futuristic MBT will not take much time for DRDO, we have gained experiance in this field by putting forth a Tank which has more caliber than the T-90 in all the fields....

What kind of experience? Developing a tank ok, but no opertional experience, especially not in these small numbers. The recent article about the trials even said, that IA not even have enough experianced drivers for Arjun to get out its entire capabilities.
It's the same problem that we face with LCA, a development that is way too delayed, forces that don't induct it in usfull numbers and before these developments are really done, they start dreaming about the next.

However, if the reports are true and Arjun offers good amour and accuracy, it should at least be used as to upgrade T72 in numbers.

 

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If so, id would be easy to modify the turret and order it in numbers, but it seems that neither stealthy design, nor fire accuracy, nor armour are the problems for IA. Their main reason against it seems to be (at least from what is known before the official report is out) the weight and the logistics that are not suited for Arjun.

What kind of experience? Developing a tank ok, but no opertional experience, especially not in these small numbers. The recent article about the trials even said, that IA not even have enough experianced drivers for Arjun to get out its entire capabilities.
It's the same problem that we face with LCA, a development that is way too delayed, forces that don't induct it in usfull numbers and before these developments are really done, they start dreaming about the next.

However, if the reports are true and Arjun offers good amour and accuracy, it should at least be used as to upgrade T72 in numbers.

I can see your point the thing is we have to start at some where both in the case of LCA and Arjun these two where the first attempt at the respective fields we cant expect to develop these in reasonable time frame there will be some difficulties but when these things are done the improvement will be quick since the experience is gained.For example look at our missile development when the basic technology is mastered producing new ones are relatively easy.

 

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I can see your point the thing is we have to start at some where both in the case of LCA and Arjun these two where the first attempt at the respective fields we cant expect to develop these in reasonable time frame there will be some difficulties but when these things are done the improvement will be quick since the experience is gained.For example look at our missile development when the basic technology is mastered producing new ones are relatively easy.

Might be true, but do we really have mastered the basics? Not sure about Arjun, lets wait for the final results of the trials to see where it still has problems besides the weight and size. For LCA there is no doubt that we are still far away from basics! Not one of the main techs like radar, or engine was, or will be done alone, only with partners. This would be fine if it was planed like that from the beginning, but it wasn't!
So where are the basics to be confident enough that we can go on for a indigenous 5. gen fighter development?
We will only get such basics and experience with inducting these developments, or at least parts of it (Arjun upgrade for T72) in numbers to operational service. Improve them through the years, learn what could have been done better and then go for futuristic things!

Btw, can anybody tell me the weight of the T72 turret? I read somewhere that te Arjun turret weighs 6t, so how much more would the T72 would weigh with that turret? And more important, what could IA say against this upgrade?

 

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Dont warry guys, Arjun is a very good tank only proble is its weight.

in the most pasimistic senario IA will induct 250 more Arjun tank which will take another 5 to 7 years for induction & by then either Mark 2 or FMBT will be ordered.

agreed arjun weighs roughly 5.5 tonnes,but look at the other tanks
challenger
abram
leopard
t 99
merkeva
they all r d best around and all weigh around 60 tonnes n above,if the army cant use arjuns in strike formations they can use it in defensive formations..at least 500 tanks will be good.and all for punjab rajasthan n gujarat sectors in defensive positions or to stop counter attack

 

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agreed arjun weighs roughly 5.5 tonnes,but look at the other tanks
challenger
abram
leopard
t 99
merkeva
they all r d best around and all weigh around 60 tonnes n above,if the army cant use arjuns in strike formations they can use it in defensive formations..at least 500 tanks will be good.and all for punjab rajasthan n gujarat sectors in defensive positions or to stop counter attack

oops my mistake i meant it weighs roughly around58.5 tonnes

 

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