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Are China's cheap loans to poor nations a development boost or a debt trap?

Funny from a guy just caught lying redhandedly a moment ago right here in this thread.

lol.... seriously ? :lol:

What lie was that ? I have provided links to each and every one of my claims. I have proved you Wrong about EVERYTHING you have said and claimed.

Every single thing.
 
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lol.... seriously ? :lol:

What lie was that ? I have provided links to each and every one of my claims. I have proved you Wrong about EVERYTHING you have said and claimed.

Every single thing.
You and your links are both lying being caught red handedly cause I m using one from Beijing right now.

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You and your links are both lying being caught red handedly cause I m using one from Beijing right now.

And my subsequent posts have shown what my earlier posts meant.

All you can do is pretend to have won , while all I had to do was speak the truth and let that win happen automatically.
 
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That You tell a lie and tell others where you get the lie doesn't make a lie become a truth.

And my subsequent posts have shown what my earlier posts meant.

All you can do is pretend to have won , while all I had to do was speak the truth and let that win happen automatically.
You lied and was being caught right on the spot, how do you explain this?
 
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That You tell a lie and tell other where you get the lie doesn't make a lie become true.

You lied and was being caught right on, how do you explain this?

Maybe you should now post about "Toilets", "Dalits" and "poverty" in India to make a final "win". :lol:
 
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China is in the midst of a rapid push to gain economic and political ascendancy across the globe — and it is splashing out billions of dollars in concessional loans to developing countries in the process.

This money is used to construct much-needed major infrastructure projects, but what happens when these poorer countries cannot pay China back?

Experts warn Beijing is using bad loans as a form of entrapment, allowing the nation to gain influence and power across the world.

Here's how they say it works.

'Debt-trap diplomacy'
Poorer nations are lured by China's offers of cheap loans for transformative infrastructure projects.

Then, when these countries are unable to keep up with their repayments, Beijing can demand concessions or other advantages in exchange for debt relief.

This process is known as debt-trap diplomacy.

Sri Lanka's Hambantota Port development project serves as a cautionary tale to anyone who thinks China's loans come without conditions.

Protests erupted last year when Sri Lanka was forced to hand control of the port over to China — on a 99-year lease — in order to wipe off about $US1 billion ($1.4 billion) worth of its debt to Beijing.

China now has control of a key port on the doorstep of regional rival India, and a strategic foothold along a key commercial and military waterway.

Australia's debt-saddled neighbours
A little closer to home, Australia has been a bit sluggish to respond to China's spreading influence in the Pacific.

Chinese loans and aid have gone from almost zero to $1.8 billion in the space of a decade, and some of our neighbours are already heavily-laden with debt to Beijing.

However, China has also pledged to spend$US5.8 billion ($8 billion) in total across the Pacific region.

For instance, Beijing has promised Papua New Guinea an incredible $US3.5 billion ($4.8 billion) for a new road network, which would stem from its capital Port Moresby.

Fiji owes China half a billion dollars, and Tonga now owes more than $160 million, or one-third of its GDP.

Tonga has been forced to admit it may fail to repay its debts, stoking fears other small Pacific nations could fall into debt distress and become vulnerable to diplomatic pressure from Beijing.

In fact Tonga's Prime Minister this year even went as far as calling on the Pacific Islands to band together against China — before backtracking on that call days later, for reasons that remain unclear.

Earlier this year, reports that China was moving to create a military base in Vanuatu sparked a panic in Australia, and served as a catalyst for a renewed pivot to reclaim regional influence.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has now announced the creation of a new infrastructure bank for projects across the region, seen largely as a pushback against Chinese influence.

China's President Xi Jinping is currently in Port Moresby for this year's APEC summit, where he will hold a special meeting with Pacific Island leaders.

Mr Xi is expected to put even more concessional loans on the table at that side meeting — so watch this space.

China's Belt and Road plan
At the heart of the issue of Chinese investment is Mr Xi's flagship economic policy, the One Belt One Road initiative.

It is a trillion-dollar project aimed at connecting countries across continents for trade, with China at its centre.

Beijing has characterised the project as a win-win for both its global trade ambitions and infrastructure-starved developing nations.

But in reality, many vulnerable countries are finding themselves overwhelmed by Chinese debt.

In 2011, Tajikistan reportedly handed over land on its disputed border with China to repay some of its debts.

China loaned Montenegro more than a billion dollars to build a key highway linking its Port of Bar to landlocked Serbia, with construction led by a Chinese company.

However, due to currency issues and problems with the blueprint, costs blew out and the project remains only partially completed.

Now debt levels in the fledgling European state are at 80 per cent of GDP, and Montenegro faces the prospect of either abandoning the project or negotiating for more money from China — pushing it deeper into Beijing's sphere of influence.

In Africa, China is financing major projects across the continent, and Beijing's level of investment is gathering pace.

In September, Mr Xi promised Africa $82 billion for development over three years — in 2015, it gave countries on the continent the same amount.

China's investment in Zambia for example is impossible to miss — schools, surgeries and construction projects bear Chinese symbols, and a vast new network of roads is being built with Chinese finance.

But the debt is mounting there, with Chinese loans accounting for up to a third of the country's total $13 billion national debt.

Debt deals have countries spooked
For now many countries are enjoying the new highways, airports and promises of economic development, but it may only be a matter of time until they, too, are overwhelmed by debt.

And the increasing reliance on Chinese investment around the world is raising concerns about how geopolitical power dynamics are shifting in the 21st century.

Some countries, spooked by Sri Lanka's port handover last year, are starting to wind back their reliance on Chinese finance — Nepal and Pakistan for instancecancelled major projects in 2017.

But it's not just developing countries that find themselves indebted to China.

In fact, Beijing is the number one holder of US debt, owning $US1.1 trillion ($1.52 trillion) in government bonds.

Amid the debates about China's growing influence and fears Beijing wants to expand its strategic military presence across the globe, it's easy to forget they have only one overseas military base — in the small east African nation of Djibouti.

The United States meanwhile has an estimated 800 bases across 70 countries.

So while Chinese money may be putting some countries at risk, and Beijing could be wielding its loans as a strategic tool, it's not the only country projecting its power around the world.

Just how deep Mr Xi's ambitions run remains unclear, but there's no doubt he plans on China leading the way in what has been dubbed the Asian Century — and not following the pack.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/mar...ost-or-a-debt-trap/ar-BBPKo46?ocid=spartandhp
Report - June 2017
The closest look yet at Chinese economic engagement in Africa
By Kartik Jayaram, Omid Kassiri, and Irene Yuan Sun

Quote highlight....
We evaluated Africa’s economic partnerships with the rest of the world across five dimensions: trade, investment stock, investment growth, infrastructure financing, and aid. China is among the top four partners for Africa across all these dimensions (Exhibit 1). No other country matches this depth and breadth of engagement.

Around 90 percent of these firms are privately owned—calling into question the notion of a monolithic, state-coordinated investment drive by “China, Inc.” Although state-owned enterprises tend to be bigger, particularly in specific sectors such as energy and infrastructure, the sheer number of private Chinese firms working toward their own profit motives suggests that Chinese investment in Africa is a more market-driven phenomenon than is commonly understood.

At the Chinese companies we talked to, 89 percent of employees were African, adding up to nearly 300,000 jobs for African workers. Scaled up across all 10,000 Chinese firms in Africa, this suggests that Chinese-owned business employ several million Africans. Moreover, nearly two-thirds of Chinese employers provided some kind of skills training. In companies engaged in construction and manufacturing, where skilled labor is a necessity, half offer apprenticeship training.

On balance, we believe that China’s growing involvement is strongly positive for Africa’s economies, governments, and workers.

Source:
https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-i...-yet-at-chinese-economic-engagement-in-africa
 
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Then everyone can call you a liar.

Basically you are saying, yes, I lied and I just feel like it,what you can do about it!

Does that mean my "Social credit score" will go down ? :lol:

Will that make me a Dalit ? :cheesy:

So far there is nothing I have lied about, but feel free to claim a "victory". lol.
 
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Does that mean my "Social credit score" will go down ? :lol:

Will that make me a Dalit ? :cheesy:

So far there is nothing I have lied about, but feel free to claim a "victory". lol.
How do you explain your lie being caught on the spot please

If you lie and is being caught subsequently you lose all your credibility for future discussion.
 
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So far there is nothing I have lied about, but feel free to claim a "victory". lol.
Right now I m still using something that you claim being banned in China.

God can you stop wasting my time posting rubbish ?

You think the readers will not be able to see through your pitiful tricks ? :disagree:
Can you at least explain your lie please.
 
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Right now I m still using something that you claim being banned in China.

I never claimed that :cheesy: ...... I proved that the govt. banned it and then subsequently had to circumvent that ban. lol.

Can you at least explain your lie please.

You think I am the chinese govt. to first lie and then explain that lie ? :lol:

I don't have to lie when the truth is so much more convenient and useful. :azn:
 
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I never claimed that :cheesy: ...... I proved that the govt. banned it and then subsequently had to circumvent that ban. lol.



You think I am the chinese govt. to first lie and then explain that lie ? :lol:

I don't have to lie when the truth is so much more convenient and useful. :azn:
Right now I m still using something that you claim being banned in China, that means you lied, simple logic, right?
 
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