Are China and India converging?

[ChinaToday]

and this is where you expose your ignorance once again.....we also did not start our reforms truly well in 1991...again to borrow your word..we had to first undo the socialist,licence raj and coupled to that we had to face internal security problems in kashmir and noth east which you people did not have...our reforms well and truly started probably in 2000 or 2001...and even then it was started under sanctions imposed due to the nuclear tests of 1998...so no we did not start on an even keel...

you not that smart are you by your logic britain probally had atleast 20 years head start than china look at where they are now?

 

[below_freezing]

This 15 year headstart is only a myth Indians like to say to make themselves feel better. Truth is India may even have a 1 to 2 year head start on China. 1978 to 1991 was just undoing communism. 1992 was when real economic reforms started. So unless India was communist before 1990 and living in communes, then the two countries started at around the same time. Even the US State Dept History of China backs this up.

China

China started in 1949 and India in 1947. That was when both nations became truly independent. No excuses. China was sanctioned by every single country in the world except African and Latin American ones 1964-1976, so that was a further disadvantage, yet China still achieved higher average lifespan in 1976 when Mao was still alive, than India did in 2009. China achieved higher literacy in 1982 when Deng just got the seat warm in his office, than India did in 2009.

Communism was necessary for destroying feudal thought like footbinding (never wiped out in China under the ROC), warlords and dynastic thinking. It was also necessary to instill the discipline, literacy and basic nutrition needed for future economic development. If India had communism for 30 years and wiped out feudal thought, then India would be just as developed as China.

 

[NALANDA]

China started in 1949 and India in 1947. That was when both nations became truly independent. No excuses. China was sanctioned by every single country in the world except African and Latin American ones 1964-1976, so that was a further disadvantage, yet China still achieved higher average lifespan in 1976 when Mao was still alive, than India did in 2009. China achieved higher literacy in 1982 when Deng just got the seat warm in his office, than India did in 2009.

Communism was necessary for destroying feudal thought like footbinding (never wiped out in China under the ROC), warlords and dynastic thinking. It was also necessary to instill the discipline, literacy and basic nutrition needed for future economic development. If India had communism for 30 years and wiped out feudal thought, then India would be just as developed as China.

India can not function as a dictatorial communist system. We are just too diverse.

Democracy though a legthy process is a long lasting system. Communism may be a fast food but injurious to health in the long run...

You have seen 60-65 years, see 60 more and than compare.


I am totally and only for Democracy as the system. And Indian DEMOCRACY in terms of quality is only improving now ...things like Lok Paal will give the democracy actual muscles...

Anyway....we have progressed in the last 60 years ( and not regressed) ....may be less..but did progress...isn't it.

 

[ChinaToday]

China started in 1949 and India in 1947. That was when both nations became truly independent. No excuses. China was sanctioned by every single country in the world except African and Latin American ones 1964-1976, so that was a further disadvantage, yet China still achieved higher average lifespan in 1976 when Mao was still alive, than India did in 2009. China achieved higher literacy in 1982 when Deng just got the seat warm in his office, than India did in 2009.

Communism was necessary for destroying feudal thought like footbinding (never wiped out in China under the ROC), warlords and dynastic thinking. It was also necessary to instill the discipline, literacy and basic nutrition needed for future economic development. If India had communism for 30 years and wiped out feudal thought, then India would be just as developed as China.

Exactly If anything it was the other way round india had a 15 years head start due to the fact no private emterprise is allow during mao years

 

[NALANDA]

Exactly If anything it was the other way round india had a 15 years head start due to the fact no private emterprise is allow during mao years

India for the first 40 years tried to be a socailits / communist country and stiffled pvt ownership, with nationalization hanging on the head of pvt entrepreneurs. Licence and permit system and what not...

only post 1991 did the system changed......its just teh beginning..

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China started in 1949 and India in 1947. That was when both nations became truly independent. No excuses. China was sanctioned by every single country in the world except African and Latin American ones 1964-1976, so that was a further disadvantage, yet China still achieved higher average lifespan in 1976 when Mao was still alive, than India did in 2009. China achieved higher literacy in 1982 when Deng just got the seat warm in his office, than India did in 2009.

Communism was necessary for destroying feudal thought like footbinding (never wiped out in China under the ROC), warlords and dynastic thinking. It was also necessary to instill the discipline, literacy and basic nutrition needed for future economic development. If India had communism for 30 years and wiped out feudal thought, then India would be just as developed as China.

The communism would indeed help India to destroy its racist caste system, while maintaining a sustainable population for its growth.

 

[mahabharath]

China started in 1949 and India in 1947. That was when both nations became truly independent. No excuses. China was sanctioned by every single country in the world except African and Latin American ones 1964-1976, so that was a further disadvantage, yet China still achieved higher average lifespan in 1976 when Mao was still alive, than India did in 2009. China achieved higher literacy in 1982 when Deng just got the seat warm in his office, than India did in 2009.

Communism was necessary for destroying feudal thought like footbinding (never wiped out in China under the ROC), warlords and dynastic thinking. It was also necessary to instill the discipline, literacy and basic nutrition needed for future economic development. If India had communism for 30 years and wiped out feudal thought, then India would be just as developed as China.

Communism is necessity you do not have any other option so you need to find some positives in your life else you feel miserable..you must chant communism..communism..communism..

what you got in your so-called pity life...

you just read restricted literature..
you just have to give birth to only one child..
you just have to live on propaganda..
you just have to live a life of robot...not human..
you just have to live a life of slave...
no freedom..no liberty..no access to free world..no other option but live a pity slave life..

you guys just copy paste like a caged parrots..what a pity...

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

you just read restricted literature..

I read everything from all parts of the world.

you just have to give birth to only one child..

I have a brother, and several aunts and uncles.

you just have to live on propaganda..

I read news sources from all over the world, and Hong Kong media is ranked the 2nd most free in Asia. (India meanwhile does not even rank in the top 100).

you just have to live a life of robot...not human..

Yet according to the Economist, China is 40 years ahead of India in terms of development indicators.

No thanks, we do not want your Caste country with more poverty and starvation than the entire continent of Africa.

 

[mahabharath]

I read everything from all parts of the world.

you read everything about all parts of the world but your world what a pity life...

I have a brother, and several aunts and uncles.

I really feel pity about you..you have to so selective so much that, your way of life shows up in your replies..when we talk about China, you talk about exemption in HK..because you have nothing to defend China..really pity of you

I read news sources from all over the world, and Hong Kong media is ranked the 2nd most free in Asia. (India meanwhile does not even rank in the top 100).

again..you can read anything about anybody or anything in our free world..but you can not even think about your miserable lives..that is how much you are controlled..what a pity life i cannot even wish that life for my eternal enemies..

Yet according to the Economist, China is 40 years ahead of India in terms of development indicators.

Sh!t with Economist..and sh!t with your parroted words..ambanies dog in mumbai live better life than yours..does it mean that dog is better than you..

entire world feel pity about you but you guys have no other choice except living like such a such a pity life like ignorants

 

[fly2012]

Communism is necessity you do not have any other option so you need to find some positives in your life else you feel miserable..you must chant communism..communism..communism..

what you got in your so-called pity life...

you just read restricted literature..
you just have to give birth to only one child..
you just have to live on propaganda..
you just have to live a life of robot...not human..
you just have to live a life of slave...
no freedom..no liberty..no access to free world..no other option but live a pity slave life..

you guys just copy paste like a caged parrots..what a pity...

Please don't troll. There're a lot of Indians living in China so are they long for slavery? As to the one child policy, it is a sacrafice made by everyone, even next leader Xi Jinping just has one daughter, so what is the problem with that?

Nothing is only black and white. Communism may not work in India because of diversity, as one India member mentioned earlier. But there's a reason Chinese chose the system using their blood. It nationalized the land and every farmer has a piece of land of their own. There was some extreme policies like Greap Leap Forward of course. It also helped to improve public health, education etc. Even before China's reform, the life span was closed to those of developed countries. It also established China's industrial system that enable today's China as a manufacturing hub.

And system does change from time to time, now China is in Communism in the party name only. China is as communism as Democratic Korea (North Korean) is democratic.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Sh!t with Economist..and sh!t with your parroted words..ambanies dog in mumbai live better life than yours..does it mean that dog is better than you..

entire world feel pity about you but you guys have no other choice except living like such a such a pity life like ignorants

LOL, I hit the raw nerve of the Indians.

 

[Abhishek_]

LOL, I hit the raw nerve of the Indians.

said the pdf drama queen

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

said the pdf drama queen

It was your own Indian friend "mahabharath" who started trolling in response to below_freezing.

I just gave him some facts in response, you know "facts"... the thing that Indians can't stand seeing.

 

[mahabharath]

LOL, I hit the raw nerve of the Indians.

a caged copy paste slave parrot talking about hitting the raw nerve..do you even know what is nerve

 

[Abhishek_]

It was your own Indian friend "mahabharath" who started trolling in response to below_freezing.

I just gave him some facts in response, you know "facts"... the thing that Indians can't stand seeing.

in most countries people have individual personalities, a concept you don't seem to understand. but hey, I don't blame you.