Arabs have released an anti-Turkish TV series

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

A very sensible post that deserves a positive rating.
Muslims have lost their way.That's why we keep getting kicked around despite numbering nearly 2 billions.
And this Arab/Turk/Pak/Iranian nationalism, prattle about Arabizing others gotta stop.Nationalism is a cancer that eats away at our sense of brotherhood.
We should instead Islamize ourselves & unite under the banner of Islam.
Otherwise, we'll keep getting kicked around for a long time to come.

Pakistani and Turkish nationalism is based on Islamic identity and Muslim history, they are successor states to the Mughals and Ottomans respectively.

I don't understand why BD talk about Muslim unity, when you separated from a larger Muslim country based on racial identity and commonality with Hindus by yourself: United Pakistan.

Sorry but sometimes truth hurts.

Many of the Arabs countries who believed strongly about Pakistan became pessimistic after 1971, and still Pakistan is fighting against that negative PR, in the name of Islam and Muslim solidarity.

 

[dani92]

Pakistani and Turkish nationalism is based on Islamic identity and Muslim history, they are successor states to the Mughals and Ottomans respectively.

I don't understand why BD talk about Muslim unity, when you separated from a larger Muslim country based on racial identity and commonality with Hindus by yourself: United Pakistan.

Sorry but sometimes truth hurts.

Many of the Arabs countries who believed strongly about Pakistan became pessimistic after 1971, and still Pakistan is fighting against that negative PR, in the name of Islam and Muslim solidarity.

Since when Turkish nationalism was based on Islamic religion?! It’s anti religion from day one most of them will tell you Islam is the religion of Arabs why tengrism is the religion of Turks.

 

[Timur]

I don't understand why BD talk about Muslim unity

that is the only unity we all share.. undermining it wont benefit us all.. let the steps be small or huge everything towards a unity is the best we can do if not we will be eaten by the kuffar I think Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan together would be a good start because of some stable values and personalities it would be good to start there.. nothing bad in BD joining them.. ppl should leave the past for the future

Islam is the religion of Arabs why tengrism is the religion of Turks

first is that not what you and some of your friends are trying to tell us islam belongs only to arabs.. ?

second you are quoting secular ppl or those who are non muslims.. should I now quote christian arabs? or arab jews? or secular arabs? there plenty stuff to tell from maroc to egypt to syria..

we have many secular ppl as we have christians and jews in turkey.. and again some ppl dont understand patriotism and nationalism and secularism and islam.. and are using this for their own racist hate goals..

 

[Sehnsucht]

Pakistani and Turkish nationalism is based on Islamic identity and Muslim history, they are successor states to the Mughals and Ottomans respectively.

I don't understand why BD talk about Muslim unity, when you separated from a larger Muslim country based on racial identity and commonality with Hindus by yourself: United Pakistan.

Sorry but sometimes truth hurts.

Many of the Arabs countries who believed strongly about Pakistan became pessimistic after 1971, and still Pakistan is fighting against that negative PR, in the name of Islam and Muslim solidarity.

Are you the Thikadar of Islamic unity? Do only Pakistan & Turkey have monopoly over Islamic brotherhood?Why's it that you denounce the plight of our Uyghur brethren as western propaganda when your'e preaching Pakistani nationalism is based on Islamic values?
Hypocrisy has it's limits.
ANY kind of nationalism is cancer.Nation states are artificial constructs.A nationalist will always prioritize his own nation over any other.
Only a true Muslim will always put his brothers & Islam over any such construct.
Let's not start talking about 71 here.Will only serve to derail this thread.

 

[dani92]

that is the only unity we all share.. undermining it wont benefit us all.. let the steps be small or huge everything towards a unity is the best we can do if not we will be eaten by the kuffar I think Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan together would be a good start because of some stable values and personalities it would be good to start there.. nothing bad in BD joining them.. ppl should leave the past for the future



first is that not what you and some of your friends are trying to tell us islam belongs only to arabs.. ?

second you are quoting secular ppl or those who are non muslims.. should I now quote christian arabs? or arab jews? or secular arabs? there plenty stuff to tell from maroc to egypt to syria..

we have many secular ppl as we have christians and jews in turkey.. and again some ppl dont understand patriotism and nationalism and secularism and islam.. and are using this for their own racist hate goals..

i didn't claim islam is only for arabs... I just replayed to his claim that turkish nationalism is built on islam which is totally false.

 

[Timur]

i didn't claim islam is only for arabs... I just replayed to his claim that turkish nationalism is built on islam which is totally false.

Nationalism is build everywhere on the same and that does not include Islam

 

[Saddam Hussein]

pan-Arabism is healthy, nothing racist about it. Simply means unification, closer integration of Arab states. My comments of Arabization have nothing to do with it.

Jordan and Iraq unified as one state for a short period of time a couple of decades back, so did Egypt and Syria as the UAR.

 

[Sehnsucht]

pan-Arabism is healthy, nothing racist about it. Simply means unification, closer integration of Arab states. My comments of Arabization have nothing to do with it.

Jordan and Iraq unified as one state for a short period of time a couple of decades back, so did Egypt and Syria as the UAR.

All of Arabia uniting I have no issue with.In fact I'll be quite happy if that happens.Because that will make you guys less vulnerable to any misadventures from Israel/US/West.

But if it becomes a monarchy, that'll be a problem.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Are you the Thikadar of Islamic unity? Do only Pakistan & Turkey have monopoly over Islamic brotherhood?Why's it that you denounce the plight of our Uyghur brethren as western propaganda when your'e preaching Pakistani nationalism is based on Islamic values?
Hypocrisy has it's limits.
ANY kind of nationalism is cancer.Nation states are artificial constructs.A nationalist will always prioritize his own nation over any other.
Only a true Muslim will always put his brothers & Islam over any such construct.
Let's not start talking about 71 here.Will only serve to derail this thread.

You are criticizing other Muslim countries, whilst you people have done more to harm Islam than anyone else. BD today functions as a proxy of India thanks to Hasina. Here you are trying to turn us against China.

First fix your relationship with Pakistan and respond to the olive branches given by the Pakistan government repeatedly to BD, then we will take you seriously when you talk about Muslim unity.

We wish the best for our blood brethren Uyghurs who we share a racial connection with and whom after Turkey, we are the biggest host of. We have always welcomed and supported Uygurs since the beginning. It is not necessary to antagonize China and fight CIA wars to be in favor of Uyghurs.

 

[Sehnsucht]

You are criticizing other Muslim countries, whilst you people have done more to harm Islam than anyone else. BD today functions as a proxy of India thanks to Hasina. Here you are trying to turn us against China.

First fix your relationship with Pakistan and respond to the olive branches given by the Pakistan government repeatedly to BD, then we will take you seriously when you talk about Muslim unity.

It's you lot with Yahya & Bhutto that ruined the union of Pakistan .
BAL is full off Indian dalal.
What olive branches?Even in this forum, I have seen many Pakistanis who regularly team up with sanghis to bash Bangladesh.
I don't see you eager to defend a Muslim country then.
I really don't give a shit about being taken seriously by a guy who'll shy away from speaking ill about Chinese atrocities in Xinjiang

I'll speak about Muslim unity however I wish, whenever I wish.If that bothers you, put me in ignore list.

We wish the best for our blood brethren Uyghurs who we share a racial connection with and whom after Turkey, we are the biggest host of. We have always welcomed and supported Uygurs since the beginning. It is not necessary to antagonize China and fight CIA wars to be in favor of Uyghurs.

Blah blah blah.Just some excuses from a hypocrite to turn blind to the plight of his brethren.
Guess I should not have expected any better from the likes of you.

You speak of Muslim unity when it suits you.You'll turn blind to any unity when it doesn't suit your agenda.

 

[Timur]

pan-Arabism is healthy, nothing racist about it

there is nothing wrong in arabs uniting likewise turks uniting from turkey to kirgizistan the problem begins when someone feels superior or has bad ideas..

I also think in order to be stronger as muslims there must be unification..

I would like to see turkic union like arabic union and union of malaysia, indonesia, pakistan and bangladesh..

but I also see the problems and the enemity among them all

 

[Sehnsucht]

there is nothing wrong in arabs uniting likewise turks uniting from turkey to kirgizistan the problem begins when someone feels superior or has bad ideas..

I also think in order to be stronger as muslims there must be unification..

I would like to see turkic union like arabic union and union of malaysia, indonesia, pakistan and bangladesh..

but I also see the problems and the enemity among them all

Problem is our egos, nationalism, superiority complex, selective agenda & complicated history.I freely admit that I'm also somewhat guilty in this regard.
Till we learn to move on from our past & put Islam over everything else, true Islamic unity will remain a dream.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

there is nothing wrong in arabs uniting likewise turks uniting from turkey to kirgizistan the problem begins when someone feels superior or has bad ideas..

I also think in order to be stronger as muslims there must be unification..

I would like to see turkic union like arabic union and union of malaysia, indonesia, pakistan and bangladesh..

but I also see the problems and the enemity among them all

Arabs uniting is a problem for Erdogan as he sticks his nose into Arab affairs all day, such unification would get him killed. Turks uniting is not a problem for Arabs as we have no interest in Kazakhstan, Azerbijan etc.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

It's you lot with Yahya & Bhutto that ruined the union of Pakistan .
BAL is full off Indian dalal.
What olive branches?Even in this forum, I have seen many Pakistanis who regularly team up with sanghis to bash Bangladesh.
I don't see you eager to defend a Muslim country then.
I really don't give a shit about being taken seriously by a guy who'll shy away from speaking ill about Chinese atrocities in Xinjiang

I'll speak about Muslim unity however I wish, whenever I wish.If that bothers you, put me in ignore list.


Blah blah blah.Just some excuses from a hypocrite to turn blind to the plight of his brethren.
Guess I should not have expected any better from the likes of you.

You speak of Muslim unity when it suits you.You'll turn blind to any unity when it doesn't suit your agenda.

So BD leaders and people bear no responsibility for the events of 1971 and their betrayal of Pakistan and allying with Indian Kuffar? Ofcourse blame is not only one side. What is the purpose of language movement but to undo Pakistan efforts to use Arabic script for Bangla and introduce Urdu? Why was Mujib talking to India to give away Kashmir if he became elected after 1965 war? From my view, Bhutto did what was needed for that traitor.

I bear no ill-will to BD people, and accept them as my Muslim brothers and sisters, so the actions and words of others do not affect me. Most Pakistanis love BD people as brothers and sisters in Islam.

Tell me where BD government or you have said anything in favor of Kashmiris. BD always support India on Kashmir and is fine with genuine genocide taking place there.

Instead you want to focus on far away China, who never did anything to BD, only to make your Indian masters happy. You are puppet of CIA and eat their propaganda fully.

I would like to see turkic union like arabic union and union of malaysia, indonesia, pakistan and bangladesh..

Pakistan is closer to Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey, and CARs than India or BD. Our chief destiny now to free Kashmir from India and merge with Afghanistan to create our Khorasaan nation, which is the natural equilibrium of this region. All major empires of this region only became superpowers when Afghanistan and Pakistan were part of them as one nation.

No disrespect to Indo-Malay brothers, we love them very much but we are far away in distance and culture from them. As we saw in BD episode, it is only a recipe for a disaster.

 

[Timur]

Arabs uniting is a problem for Erdogan as he sticks his nose into Arab affairs all day

you may have psycological problems.. the problem is the "arab world" is poisened.. mostly the region around saudi arabia has a special wickedness.. unfortunally most of the muslim lands are poisened too..

I just talked about an ideal thing when sane ppl would have power unfortunally there is no such thing.. and I bet arabs uniting (saudi leadership) would result in destruction and fitna