Arab nations can learn from Malaysia

[RezRoll]

Nope, however I'm Muslim, East Asia is far different from the rest of muslim world however I think it's a good model just not for the rest of the muslim world , the best model or similar for Arabs to choose is the Turkish model.

What is the difference between a Turkish model and a Malaysian model anyway? Atleast currently, I think the country most similar, policies and economic wise to Malaysia in the Muslim world is Turkey.

 

[Mosamania]

I think you mis-understood it, mate.

It's about the countries focus and top priority.

"Two nations because it has emphasised economic growth, whereas Middle East regionalism has reinforced autocracy and sterile religio-political rhetoric against Israel."

Most Malaysians are staunchly against Israel too, but our ultimate concern is the economy. For example, I always see members here talk about issues, ranging from US occupation, Israel-Palestine, India and all that, which is fine, but rarely do I see members here giving suggestions on what can be done to improve the economy or voting for a party which has been the best economic plan.

My personal believe is the governments top priority is to improve the well-being of it's citizens and economy

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If you have read my previous post, I've always been supportive of Turkey. I personally think Turkey is a model Muslim nation too.

About the guy who wrote this, I don't know much, but this article came out in Malaysia's most legit newspaper.

According to your assessment Saudi Arabia is the by far the best Arab country and currently even beating Malaysia with our Economic growth which is ranked one of the highest in the world. Our government is focusing with all its might on the Economy and you can clearly see that if you have been following the news.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

What is the difference between a Turkish model and a Malaysian model anyway? Atleast currently, I think the country most similar, policies and economic wise to Malaysia in the Muslim world is Turkey.

Actually it's both similar in a way however Malaysia system isn't popular in the Muslim world, the Turkish model gets talked of more and has been a success similar to Malaysia however better, Our systems won't exactly be like Turkey however Similar. Turkey has been seen as a regional power as well as a successful Country with Islam , Democracy and Secularism. if Malaysia could show this then we want Malaysia leading , however Turks seem to want to Lead.

 

[RezRoll]

According to your assessment Saudi Arabia is the by far the best Arab country and currently even beating Malaysia with our Economic growth which is ranked one of the highest in the world. Our government is focusing with all its might on the Economy and you can clearly see that if you have been following the news.

Meh, your country has a ridiculous amount of oil. When it comes to business trade and development, is Arab really up to par with the Eastern world? (China, Japan, Korea or Singapore)

And yes, I don't even have to start about the socio-politics of Arab nations

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Actually it's both similar in a way however Malaysia system isn't popular in the Muslim world, the Turkish model gets talked of more and has been a success similar to Malaysia however better, Our systems won't exactly be like Turkey however Similar. Turkey has been seen as a regional power as well as a successful Country with Islam , Democracy and Secularism. if Malaysia could show this then we want Malaysia leading , however Turks seem to want to Lead.

Just curious, when you say "our system", which country are you referring to?

If you're Arab, yes, maybe Turkey would be a more appropriate choice, with the cultural similarities and all. But I do think that countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh and so forth could follow the Malaysian model.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Meh, your country has a ridiculous amount of oil. When it comes to business trade and development, is Arab really up to par with the Eastern world? (China, Japan, Korea or Singapore)

And yes, I don't even have to start about the socio-politics of Arab nations

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Just curious, when you say "our system", which country are you referring to?

If you're Arab, yes, maybe Turkey would be a more appropriate choice, with the cultural similarities and all. But I do think that countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh and so forth could follow the Malaysian model.

Arabs & Pakistan, Bangladesh however is a secular country with a good growing economy I don't think it needs another model , so many models so little time don't ya think if Malaysia wants to be a model then by all means the Malaysian PM or President should speak out and say something.

 

[Mosamania]

Meh, your country has a ridiculous amount of oil. When it comes to business trade and development, is Arab really up to par with the Eastern world? (China, Japan, Korea or Singapore)

And yes, I don't even have to start about the socio-politics of Arab nations

So Oil is a bad thing??? A lot of people are trying to make me feel guilty that my country has Oil I don't know why....

And regarding development we have been opening new plants every week or two with huge productions in the thousands of tons per year.

 

[RezRoll]

Arabs & Pakistan, Bangladesh however is a secular country with a good growing economy I don't think it needs another model , so many models so little time don't ya think if Malaysia wants to be a model then by all means the Malaysian PM or President should speak out and say something.

I'm sure you've heard of our previous PM, Dr. Mahathir. He was a great leader and used to speak out alot at OIC conventions and all.

The current PM is a lot more quieter and prefers to mend the internal condition of the country first.

And that's what my point is, before speaking out on issues in foreign countries, fix the problems in your very own country first. I see so many leaders of various countries shouting for justice for different countries at faraway land, while their own country is in a complete mess.

Anyway we don't aspire to be a leader of the Muslim world or anything, all we hope for is that Malaysia as a country itself is forever progressing

 

[Mosamania]

I'm sure you've heard of our previous PM, Dr. Mahathir. He was a great leader and used to speak out alot at OIC conventions and all.

The current PM is a lot more quieter and prefers to mend the internal condition of the country first.

And that's what my point is, before speaking out on issues in foreign countries, fix the problems in your very own country first. I see so many leaders of various countries shouting for justice for different countries at faraway land, while their own country is in a complete mess.

Anyway we don't aspire to be a leader of the Muslim world or anything, all we hope for is that Malaysia as a country itself is forever progressing

I have read about Dr.Mahathir he is very popular person here in KSA.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

I'm sure you've heard of our previous PM, Dr. Mahathir. He was a great leader and used to speak out alot at OIC conventions and all.

The current PM is a lot more quieter and prefers to mend the internal condition of the country first.

And that's what my point is, before speaking out on issues in foreign countries, fix the problems in your very own country first. I see so many leaders of various countries shouting for justice for different countries at faraway land, while their own country is in a complete mess.

Anyway we don't aspire to be a leader of the Muslim world or anything, all we hope for is that Malaysia as a country itself is forever progressing

I agree and thats good, we all should follow which we think is the best for us. however thank you for offering options to us. we aren't that familiar with the Malaysia model if Malaysia played an active role in the ME like Turkey does then Hail Malaysia I say, Friend don't take any offense, I merely believe we need something similar to Turkey and yes even Malaysia.

 

[RezRoll]

So Oil is a bad thing??? A lot of people are trying to make me feel guilty that my country has Oil I don't know why....

And regarding development we have been opening new plants every week or two with huge productions in the thousands of tons per year.

Nah, oil is a great thing. But with the amount of oil you're having, your country really should be the leader of the world.

The fact that you're not, just speaks for your own inefficiency. If the Chinese had the same amount of oil, by now they'll be ruling the world.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Nah, oil is a great thing. But with the amount of oil you're having, your country really should be the leader of the world.

The fact that you're not, just speaks for your own inefficiency. If the Chinese had the same amount of oil, by now they'll be ruling the world.

I agree the hardest part of oil is getting off it, SA is building it's own cars to sell to Turkey, Africa, Pakistan & India, Saudi's have good IT industry and sell many other things to, hahah China is the biggest buyer of non oil goods from SA, they started industrialization around 1996 So there at a pretty good place.

 

[RezRoll]

I agree and thats good, we all should follow which we think is the best for us. however thank you for offering options to us.

LOL i'm not the PM of Malaysia and I'm definately not trying to offer anything. Just thought I'll place the article here for a good discussion

Just of curiosity, what's your country of origin, mate?

 

[NeutralCitizen]

LOL i'm not the PM of Malaysia and I'm definately not trying to offer anything. Just thought I'll place the article here for a good discussion

Just of curiosity, what's your country of origin, mate?

German-Egyptian.

You should run for PM.

 

[jbond197]

The best thing about Malaysia and Indonesia is separation of politics and religion to a good extent.. They have moderate and progressive outlook and that is something lots of other countries can take lessons on..

 

[Mosamania]

Nah, oil is a great thing. But with the amount of oil you're having, your country really should be the leader of the world.

The fact that you're not, just speaks for your own inefficiency. If the Chinese had the same amount of oil, by now they'll be ruling the world.

We are not a very ****** rich country. But we are only a rich country by comparison. Industrialized countries are far more richer than us but now we are focusing on joining them. It is not as easy as you might think.

Plus we as a nation have been marginalized by history and the world in general and only now and very recently were we opened up to the world and realized that other people live in the world and they do things differently.
How do you expect a nation that only recently became self-sufficient in school teachers to rule the world?? If anything we should build a huge economy not a one based on oil but based on knowledge that we can take on the world with first.