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Aussie editor says Arab nations can learn from Malaysia, Indonesia


MELBOURNE: Arab nations in tumult could learn much from East Asia's giants Indonesia and Malaysia, says The Australian newspaper's foreign editor, Greg Sheridan.

In his highly-respected column Thursday, Sheridan who visited Kuala Lumpur recently, says the collapse of political Islamic moderation, from the Middle East to Pakistan to Turkey, "is profoundly disturbing" but there is one region which is a serious exception Southeast Asia.

"Malaysia is not a perfect democracy. The opposition doesn't get a fair shake from the media. But its elections are clean and several of its state governments are controlled by opposition parties," Sheridan says.

"Above all, both Indonesia and Malaysia are legitimate nations with legitimate governments. If the people don't like their governments, they are more likely to try to change them at the ballot box than by riots."

Sheridan says East Asian regionalism has had a very good effect on these two nations because it has emphasised economic growth, whereas Middle East regionalism has reinforced autocracy and sterile religio-political rhetoric against Israel.

Sheridan has also written about his "long discussion with Malaysia's Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak."

When asked how it was that Malaysia had so comprehensively avoided acts of Islamist terror, Najib, he says, replied: "I like to think it's more than divine intervention. I think it's partly historical and partly it's our policy and our very proactive actions.

"From the historical perspective, the coming of Islam to this part of the world has never been associated with violence. It was always a peaceful conversion to Islam."

"Second, the way we have interpreted Islam, and applied Islam in a very moderate and progressive way. I would even call it an enlightened way.

"Islam is seen here as a religion of peace and understanding and able to relate to other religions. We've been able to put in place policies which allow the peaceful coexistence of other religions in this country."

Saying that Malaysia has substantial oil wealth, like many nations in the Middle East, Sheridan adds Malaysia has not rested on that resource.

It has always pursued an open and diverse economy, and this has become a part of its national identity as well as its economic policy, he says.

Najib, writes Sheridan in the column, says: "I believe that Malaysia, indeed any society, to prosper should be open and should be fully engaged with the global economy."

Sheridan says Malaysia survived the global financial crisis remarkably well.

"Najib offers three reasons for this: a robust and well regulated banking system, an extremely large stimulus package, and a diverse economy such that when manufacturing fell it was compensated by commodities rising."

Sheridan says it it is "a singular good fortune" of Australia that "our Muslim neighbours are two legitimate, practical minded states, focused on economic development in a broadly successful region." - Bernama


Aussie editor says Arab nations can learn from Malaysia, Indonesia
 
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This guy is wrong Arab nations already have an economic organization called the GCC, plus Turkey MUST lead the Arabs. Turks already have a balance of Islam and Democracy :coffee:
 
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Aussie editor says Arab nations can learn from Malaysia, Indonesia


MELBOURNE: Arab nations in tumult could learn much from East Asia's giants Indonesia and Malaysia, says The Australian newspaper's foreign editor, Greg Sheridan.

In his highly-respected column Thursday, Sheridan who visited Kuala Lumpur recently, says the collapse of political Islamic moderation, from the Middle East to Pakistan to Turkey, "is profoundly disturbing" but there is one region which is a serious exception Southeast Asia.

"Malaysia is not a perfect democracy. The opposition doesn't get a fair shake from the media. But its elections are clean and several of its state governments are controlled by opposition parties," Sheridan says.

"Above all, both Indonesia and Malaysia are legitimate nations with legitimate governments. If the people don't like their governments, they are more likely to try to change them at the ballot box than by riots."

Sheridan says East Asian regionalism has had a very good effect on these two nations because it has emphasised economic growth, whereas Middle East regionalism has reinforced autocracy and sterile religio-political rhetoric against Israel.

Sheridan has also written about his "long discussion with Malaysia's Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak."

When asked how it was that Malaysia had so comprehensively avoided acts of Islamist terror, Najib, he says, replied: "I like to think it's more than divine intervention. I think it's partly historical and partly it's our policy and our very proactive actions.

"From the historical perspective, the coming of Islam to this part of the world has never been associated with violence. It was always a peaceful conversion to Islam."

"Second, the way we have interpreted Islam, and applied Islam in a very moderate and progressive way. I would even call it an enlightened way.

"Islam is seen here as a religion of peace and understanding and able to relate to other religions. We've been able to put in place policies which allow the peaceful coexistence of other religions in this country."

Saying that Malaysia has substantial oil wealth, like many nations in the Middle East, Sheridan adds Malaysia has not rested on that resource.

It has always pursued an open and diverse economy, and this has become a part of its national identity as well as its economic policy, he says.

Najib, writes Sheridan in the column, says: "I believe that Malaysia, indeed any society, to prosper should be open and should be fully engaged with the global economy."

Sheridan says Malaysia survived the global financial crisis remarkably well.

"Najib offers three reasons for this: a robust and well regulated banking system, an extremely large stimulus package, and a diverse economy such that when manufacturing fell it was compensated by commodities rising."

Sheridan says it it is "a singular good fortune" of Australia that "our Muslim neighbours are two legitimate, practical minded states, focused on economic development in a broadly successful region." - Bernama


Aussie editor says Arab nations can learn from Malaysia, Indonesia

I stopped reading after he Said turkey.....Just because a country is against Israel that automatically makes it "Radical"??
 
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I stopped reading after he Said turkey.....Just because a country is against Israel that automatically makes it "Radical"??
Yeah - They call themselves secular yet they have to bring religion in every discussion.As a matter of fact Turkey is probably the most modern Islamic Nation.The fact is as long as a nation acts as US poodle and aligns with Western Policies it is fine even though it might be extremely cruel government (Ex- Arbi Dictators) but as long as they try to exert independent foreign policy they suddenly become evil (Turkey). Meanwhile, Malaysia GDP $193.09 Billion US dollars at current prices - 2009 - Turkey's GDP $614.6 Billion US dollars at current prices - 2009.
 
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LOL Turkey has balanced Islam and Democracy, The Turkish Economy is booming , Arabs already have an Economic Union called the GCC I suggest you look it up Turkey will be leading the arabs lol this article is trash Delete it.

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LOL REZAVAN the guy who wrote the article is a right winger He has also argued in support of the notion that George W. Bush will be judged one of the great presidents of the United States, wtf this is pure trash now I suggest you check out the authors.
 
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Yeah - They call themselves secular yet they have to bring religion in every discussion.As a matter of fact Turkey is probably the most modern Islamic Nation.

I second that. As a person who spends a lot of time in Turkey I would LOVE for my country to be identical to it. Save for a few things.
 
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the guy who wrote the article is a right winger He has also argued in support of the notion that George W. Bush will be judged one of the great presidents of the United States, wtf this is pure trash now I suggest you check out the authors. Delete this trash now.
 
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I stopped reading after he Said turkey.....Just because a country is against Israel that automatically makes it "Radical"??

I think you mis-understood it, mate.

It's about the countries focus and top priority.

"Two nations because it has emphasised economic growth, whereas Middle East regionalism has reinforced autocracy and sterile religio-political rhetoric against Israel."

Most Malaysians are staunchly against Israel too, but our ultimate concern is the economy. For example, I always see members here talk about issues, ranging from US occupation, Israel-Palestine, India and all that, which is fine, but rarely do I see members here giving suggestions on what can be done to improve the economy or voting for a party which has been the best economic plan.

My personal believe is the governments top priority is to improve the well-being of it's citizens and economy :)

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LOL Turkey has balanced Islam and Democracy, The Turkish Economy is booming , Arabs already have an Economic Union called the GCC I suggest you look it up Turkey will be leading the arabs lol this article is trash Delete it.

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LOL REZAVAN the guy who wrote the article is a right winger He has also argued in support of the notion that George W. Bush will be judged one of the great presidents of the United States, wtf this is pure trash now I suggest you check out the authors.

If you have read my previous post, I've always been supportive of Turkey. I personally think Turkey is a model Muslim nation too.

About the guy who wrote this, I don't know much, but this article came out in Malaysia's most legit newspaper.
 
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I think you mis-understood it, mate.

It's about the countries focus and top priority.

"Two nations because it has emphasised economic growth, whereas Middle East regionalism has reinforced autocracy and sterile religio-political rhetoric against Israel."

Most Malaysians are staunchly against Israel too, but our ultimate concern is the economy. For example, I always see members here talk about issues, ranging from US occupation, Israel-Palestine, India and all that, which is fine, but rarely do I see members here giving suggestions on what can be done to improve the economy or voting for a party which has been the best economic plan.

My personal believe is the governments top priority is to improve the well-being of it's citizens and economy :)
Malaysia GDP $193.09 Billion US dollars at current prices - 2009 - Turkey's GDP $614.6 Billion US dollars at current prices - 2009. (Turkish Economy went up during AKP Governments yep the so called islamist government..)
 
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I think you mis-understood it, mate.

It's about the countries focus and top priority.

"Two nations because it has emphasised economic growth, whereas Middle East regionalism has reinforced autocracy and sterile religio-political rhetoric against Israel."

Most Malaysians are staunchly against Israel too, but our ultimate concern is the economy. For example, I always see members here talk about issues, ranging from US occupation, Israel-Palestine, India and all that, which is fine, but rarely do I see members here giving suggestions on what can be done to improve the economy or voting for a party which has been the best economic plan.

My personal believe is the governments top priority is to improve the well-being of it's citizens and economy :)

Agreed however Turkish Economy is booming, Turks Balanced Islam and secularism and democracy it will be the model, however who says malaysia can't be a model to Pakistan ? Turkey will be the ones for the Arabs.
 
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Malaysia GDP $193.09 Billion US dollars at current prices - 2009 - Turkey's GDP $614.6 Billion US dollars at current prices - 2009. (Turkish Economy went up during AKP Governments yep the so called islamist government..)

Turkey has a higher population, and the Malaysian ringgit slumped recently, that might have changed things.
 
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I think you mis-understood it, mate.

It's about the countries focus and top priority.

"Two nations because it has emphasised economic growth, whereas Middle East regionalism has reinforced autocracy and sterile religio-political rhetoric against Israel."

Most Malaysians are staunchly against Israel too, but our ultimate concern is the economy. For example, I always see members here talk about issues, ranging from US occupation, Israel-Palestine, India and all that, which is fine, but rarely do I see members here giving suggestions on what can be done to improve the economy or voting for a party which has been the best economic plan.
My personal believe is the governments top priority is to improve the well-being of it's citizens and economy :)

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If you have read my previous post, I've always been supportive of Turkey. I personally think Turkey is a model Muslim nation too.

About the guy who wrote this, I don't know much, but this article came out in Malaysia's most legit newspaper.

Fair enough however he claims turkey is radical how so ? Turkish economy is over a Trillion compared to the malaysian economy, Turkey has balanced Islam and Secularism ? I suggest you check this guy out he's a right winger. if they don't support Israel they must be radical :)
 
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"Malaysia is not a perfect democracy. The opposition doesn't get a fair shake from the media. But its elections are clean and several of its state governments are controlled by opposition parties," Sheridan says.

"Above all, both Indonesia and Malaysia are legitimate nations with legitimate governments. If the people don't like their governments, they are more likely to try to change them at the ballot box than by riots."

Doesn't turkey have elections to ? Another part of this article debunked. Turkish people voted for Erdogan though the ballot box :whistle:
 
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Fair enough however he claims turkey is radical how so ? Turkish economy is over a Trillion compared to the malaysian economy, Turkey has balanced Islam and Secularism ? I suggest you check this guy out he's a right winger. if they don't support Israel they must be radical :)

From what I've been reading, Turkey is slowly heading down the path of Islamist politics.

My point is, leave religion to the citizens to handle. Government's only concern should be the economics of the country.

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"Malaysia is not a perfect democracy. The opposition doesn't get a fair shake from the media. But its elections are clean and several of its state governments are controlled by opposition parties," Sheridan says.

"Above all, both Indonesia and Malaysia are legitimate nations with legitimate governments. If the people don't like their governments, they are more likely to try to change them at the ballot box than by riots."

Doesn't turkey have elections to ? Another part of this article debunked. Turkish people voted for Erdogan though the ballot box :whistle:

Are you Turkish, mate? :lol:

This article isn't only for Turkey, it's for the whole Muslim world. I believe that all of them can learn something from us, East Asians.
 
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From what I've been reading, Turkey is slowly heading down the path of Islamist politics.

My point is, leave religion to the citizens to handle. Government's only concern should be the economics of the country.

AKP is like kind of like the Christian Conservatives in Europe, yet it still succeeds, Secularism is still in place the government isn't forcing any islamic law on the country etc etc just people who see Turkey leaving the west because it was rejected by it in the first place,

Turkey does that, Erdogan wanted secularism for egypt and several other arab countries :whistle: , Agree 100 % Turkish was in a recession but when the AKP came it has been booming Turkey is set to be one of the biggest economies of the 21st century

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From what I've been reading, Turkey is slowly heading down the path of Islamist politics.

My point is, leave religion to the citizens to handle. Government's only concern should be the economics of the country.

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Are you Turkish, mate? :lol:

This article isn't only for Turkey, it's for the whole Muslim world. I believe that all of them can learn something from us, East Asians.

Nope, however I'm Muslim, East Asia is far different from the rest of muslim world however I think it's a good model just not for the rest of the muslim world ;) , the best model or similar for Arabs and the muslim world to choose is the Turkish model or similar to it.
 
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