Apple Stumbles in China as Local Phone Makers Head Up-Market

[BoQ77]

Here is the price quote I got from FPT that you mentioned again and again. It said the 6S 64GB costs 21.8 million VND.
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BTW, here is the Iphone price at JD.com. CNY 5488 for a 64GB 6S
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click the link "xem khuyen mai chi tiet" pls.

You are trying to prove by all price that, Vietnamese must buy Iphone at higher than Chinese.
First you posted this ( your source )

BTW, Vietnam people need to pay more to Iphone. An Iphone 6S 64GB is priced CNY 6,088 in China; but priced at 21.3 million VND in Vietnam, or 6,210 CNY..

Once get my update that in Hanoi, I could pick same Iphone at authorized reseller at 5,400 CNY, you quickly check Apple website and wrongly conclude the reseller not in Apple list.
And persuade us that only Vinaphone, Viettel ( AT&T a like ) could provide genuine Iphone in Vietnam. Just scroll down the screen you found that my link about authorized resellers is true,
and finally you could access to FPTshop, a large network of retailers.

The price they offer ( after deducted 2 million = 5700 CNY ) is the max price of Iphone in Vietnam,
So your talent is just about telling local to buy Iphone at highest price as you could find?
This is my last update about price for genuine 5300-5400 CNY. There's cheaper but I'm not so sure about the origin.

I never comment about your price update 6088 CNY then 54xx CNY in JD ... because I am not local in your country
Btw, I'm not ifan, I just want to reflect the local news.

 

[TaiShang]

you are right, it's not designed for the like of me. So I switch to Huawei and share with other PDFers my experience and feeling.

 

[Nan Yang]

Pure Android phone = Huawei Nexus, Lenovo Motorola X. Non-bloat software. Faster, more stable.

Non-Pure Android Phone = the rest of the Android makers. They usually add a layer of skin on top of the Android OS. That included their pre-installed software and optimization.


Like I said, the S7 is not true Android phone so what you experience is not the same with a pure Android phone. All of the things you mention I can do with my pure Android phone and about 40% less. LOL That's why I said you pay the extra amount because of marketing which in turn provide better "resell value". But once your warranty expire, you're on your own. This is when quality of the built and stability of the OS becomes important.

Me? Expert in Android and iOS.


Noob . Sony is the worse at making Android phone. There is a reason why they no longer a big player in the Android market.

So how do you tell if a phone is using pure Android or not? You mentioned Moto x what about Moto g ?

 

[GS Zhou]

click the link "xem khuyen mai chi tiet" pls.
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You are trying to prove by all price that, Vietnamese must buy Iphone at higher than Chinese.
First you posted this ( your source )


Once get my update that in Hanoi, I could pick same Iphone at authorized reseller at 5,400 CNY, you quickly check Apple website and wrongly conclude the reseller not in Apple list.
And persuade us that only Vinaphone, Viettel ( AT&T a like ) could provide genuine Iphone in Vietnam. Just scroll down the screen you found that my link about authorized resellers is true,
and finally you could access to FPTshop, a large network of retailers.

The price they offer ( after deducted 2 million = 5700 CNY ) is the max price of Iphone in Vietnam,
So your talent is just about telling local to buy Iphone at highest price as you could find?
This is my last update about price for genuine 5300-5400 CNY. There's cheaper but I'm not so sure about the origin.

I never comment about your price update 6088 CNY then 54xx CNY in JD ... because I am not local in your country
Btw, I'm not ifan, I just want to reflect the local news.

It is you that initiate the topic that "China is the most expensive place for Iphone". This creates me the curiosity that how is Iphone priced in Vietnam?

So I go to the Apple Vietnam website. The "where to buy Iphone" section of Apple Vietnam gives us the names of ONLY TWO dealers in Vietnam: Vinaphone and Viettel. And Vinaphone said the 6S 64GB costs 21.3 million VND, or 6,200 CNY. Given the sales channel complexity, we should do an "Apple to Apple" comparison, so I believe the easiest way for price comparison is to check the official Apple website, and the result is 6200 CNY in Vietnam and 6088 CNY in China (the China price comes from the Apple China website). This proves your comment is WRONG.

After that, you said Vinaphone is not a typical channel for Iphone sales in Vietnam. People usually go to the places like FPT. I respect your comments, so I check the FPT website. And it said the Iphone costs 21.8 million VND (or 6,350 CNY). Now you said there is an additional 2million VND discount, so the real FPT price should be 19.8 million VND (or 5800 CNY). Since FPT is an independent online seller, for the sake of "Apple to Apple", I shared you the price from JD.com, which said the price is 5,488 CNY. This proves again your original message is WRONG.

BTW, how many times have you been banned in PDF in total? Three times, or five times? Your bans are all caused by your irresponsible/wrong comments on China. But I'm disappointed to see that you obviously don't get any lessons from your past bans, and still make stxxid comments on China. I'm not saying you should be banned this time, but I won't be surprised to see you be banned again if you don't take serious actions.

 

[BoQ77]

Do you mean I must be banned because reflect the true fact in my location?

It is you that initiate the topic that "China is the most expensive place for Iphone". This creates me the curiosity that how is Iphone priced in Vietnam?

So I go to the Apple Vietnam website. The "where to buy Iphone" section of Apple Vietnam gives us the names of ONLY TWO dealers in Vietnam: Vinaphone and Viettel. And Vinaphone said the 6S 64GB costs 21.3 million VND, or 6,200 CNY. Given the sales channel complexity, we should do an "Apple to Apple" comparison, so I believe the easiest way for price comparison is to check the official Apple website, and the result is 6200 CNY in Vietnam and 6088 CNY in China (the China price comes from the Apple China website). This proves your comment is WRONG.

After that, you said Vinaphone is not a typical channel for Iphone sales in Vietnam. People usually go to the places like FPT. I respect your comments, so I check the FPT website. And it said the Iphone costs 21.8 million VND (or 6,350 CNY). Now you said there is an additional 2million VND discount, so the real FPT price should be 19.8 million VND (or 5800 CNY). Since FPT is an independent online seller, for the sake of "Apple to Apple", I shared you the price from JD.com, which said the price is 5,488 CNY. This proves again your original message is WRONG.

BTW, how many times have you been banned in PDF in total? Three times, or five times? Your bans are all caused by your irresponsible/wrong comments on China. But I'm disappointed to see that you obviously don't get any lessons from your past bans, and still make stxxid comments on China. I'm not saying you should be banned this time, but I won't be surprised to see you be banned again if you don't take serious actions.

 

[AbRaj]

Buddy, I agree with you a 100%. Iphones are for the likes of Ifools.

not exactly, its for Super rich class which demands absolutebest and for which money is not a factor

 

[GS Zhou]

not exactly, its for Super rich class which demands absolutebest and for which money is not a factor

Super rich? How you define "super rich"?? We are talking about a $800 USD phone, NOT a $800,000 Ferrari!!

 

[AbRaj]

Super rich? How you define "super rich"?? We are talking about a $800 USD phone, NOT a $800,000 Ferrari!!

i mean people who arnt budget minded and not compromise on quality

 

[rott]

i mean people who arnt budget minded and not compromise on quality

I am richer than a friend of mine and he's got 3 iphones but I have none. That's how I invented the word ifool.

 

[AbRaj]

I am richer than a friend of mine and he's got 3 iphones but I have none. That's how I invented the word ifool.

he is richer ,He has Iphone Dude

 

[rott]

he is richer ,He has Iphone Dude

Lol... Okay

 

[sweetgrape]

Do you mean I must be banned because reflect the true fact in my location?

Hehe, you guy are still that ridiculous, like many other Vietnamese here, discuss illogically and self righteously.

not exactly, its for Super rich class which demands absolutebest and for which money is not a factor

In China, two kind of people most like using Iphone, Woman and young normal worker with about 3000 yuan salary monthly.

 

[Beidou2020]

not exactly, its for Super rich class which demands absolutebest and for which money is not a factor

Many people buy iPhones exactly for the reason you said......STATUS.

iPhones are considered the highest quality phone through Apple marketing and anyone that has an iPhone is considered wealthy. It's like owning a BMW, Mercedes or Audi car. Its a status symbol.

I have always used an iPhone due to iOS and its simplicity but recently I feel like I'm not getting the worth for the price I pay. iPhone 6s is a small upgrade over iPhone 6. iPhone SE is beyond a joke.

The camera for Samsung S7 is way ahead of iPhone 6s or SE.

 

[rott]

Many people buy iPhones exactly for the reason you said......STATUS.

iPhones are considered the highest quality phone through Apple marketing and anyone that has an iPhone is considered wealthy. It's like owning a BMW, Mercedes or Audi car. Its a status symbol.

I have always used an iPhone due to iOS and its simplicity but recently I feel like I'm not getting the worth for the price I pay. iPhone 6s is a small upgrade over iPhone 6. iPhone SE is beyond a joke.

The camera for Samsung S7 is way ahead of iPhone 6s or SE.

Huawei P9 plus beats s7 in the camera segment.

I feel bad now

I have an HTC now, another Greater China brand. The next will be Huawei, for sure. I was between Oppo and Huawei but now decided on Huawei.

I really like Huawei's logo. For some reason, I care as much about the logo design as the design of the phone itself.

Wait for a while till the kirin 970 chipset is out.

 

[TaiShang]

Wait for a while till the kirin 970 chipset is out.

That's one of the reasons (domestic content) that I like Huawei.