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Apache down-selected for Bangladesh attack helicopter requirement

Brand new fighters like Eurofighter and F-18 probably are not a good buy in 2020 for a few reasons:

1. Very expensive as Eurofighter will come to more than 100 million US dollars per plane and 80 million US dollars per F-18.

2. Expensive to run as they are two-engined.

3. Will become very obsolete half-way through their service life.

The more I think the better that refurbished F-16 Block 50/52 with 15 year service life left look to me.
Aren’t getting brand new if 2021 if 2021 is still our induction date.
I heard stuff I’m not allowed to disclose but if we go this route and can pull it off before 2025 you’ll be amazed at the capability Bangladesh airforce will have in just under a decade

Not now but what about 10/20 years down the line?

Brand new F-18s would last for 30 years. Refurbished F-16s are ok as they would last 15 years max.

China gets as strong as USA and US wants as many countries as possible on it's side?

Muslim bloc forms(2030 onwards) to threaten USA and Chinese interests?
Tbh you can make hem last 50 or 5 it depends on how many flight hours you’ll fly them.
Imho bd will have to choose a side in the future one way or the other... else it will lose in situations like the rohynga crisis
 
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Tbh you can make hem last 50 or 5 it depends on how many flight hours you’ll fly them.
Imho bd will have to choose a side in the future one way or the other... else it will lose in situations like the rohynga crisis


Yep, it shall choose the upcoming "Muslim block" with Turkey, Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia and hopefully Pakistan.

Can see that it officially coming into being by 2030.:partay:

When BD is part of this bloc neither Myanmar or India will cause it any problems.
 
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Thanks. The above news contains this part:

"It is expected that the CIRCM system will begin fielding in Fiscal Year 2019 to both the Army and the Navy, and will be used aboard helicopters, tilt-rotor aircraft, and small fixed-wing aircraft.

Included among those aircraft are the AH-64 Apache and the UH-60 Black Hawk. Within the Department of the Navy -- a partner in the CIRCM program -- the AH-1 Cobra will receive the system, as will the MV-22 Osprey. In the future, Lee said, the Advanced Threat Infrared Countermeasures system aboard the CH-47 Chinook will be replaced with the CIRCM as well".

I hope our Apaches will be fitted with this kind of laser defense system. Otherwise, it cannot operate in jungles where MANPAD can be used without being located by the pilot.
 
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Yep, it shall choose the upcoming "Muslim block" with Turkey, Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia and hopefully Pakistan.

Can see that it officially coming into being by 2030.:partay:

When BD is part of this bloc neither Myanmar or India will cause it any problems.
I don’t think this bloc will happen as much as I want it to. Malaysia’s mahathir’s statements is enough to say they’re out, Indonesia and turkey sure... but Bangladesh might be butthurt with Pakistan... who knows what may happen
 
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I don’t think this bloc will happen as much as I want it to. Malaysia’s mahathir’s statements is enough to say they’re out, Indonesia and turkey sure... but Bangladesh might be butthurt with Pakistan... who knows what may happen

Nah it will happen and Malaysia will be in.
Hasina will no longer be around in 10 years and BD/Pakistan will both be part of block. Both will act as a bulwark against the Hinduvta menace.
Great times are ahead for Muslims, if you take the Arabs out.
 
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I hope our Apaches will be fitted with this kind of laser defense system. Otherwise, it cannot operate in jungles where MANPAD can be used without being located by the pilot.
It should be obvious, otherwise why our military shall buy a beast that has an extremely vulnerable side. If we buy with the unit cost of 100+ millions of dollars ( included training and everything) , and then it get shot down with a MANPAD too easily , then it will be a catastrophe. So indeed military is buying this stuff by taking it seriously I think.

Nah it will happen and Malaysia will be in.
Hasina will no longer be around in 10 years and BD/Pakistan will both be part of block. Both will act as a bulwark against the Hinduvta menace.
Great times are ahead for Muslims, if you take the Arabs out.

Did she ever use anti Pakistan rhetoric when she won 1996 election? She didn't. And also you see Hasina already opened her mouth against India by saying that India did unnecessary thing with NRC and CAA. So I think situation is changing. So I think there is a possibility that even when Hasina in power, the atmosphere will be changed. Let's say after this term (2023), she will turn against India literally. She still have 4 years before 2023-24 election, and another 5 years after it. So 9 years is too long to change her mindset I think, so I think there is nothing to lose hope about her in this Pakistan issue.

Contrary to popular belief, neither she give priority to Indian interest over national interest, nor her father did it. IMHO, it's only for the good works of sheikh Hasina and for the reputation of bangabandhu sheikh Mujib is the reason why AL is still popular despite the nasty works of BCL goons and chamchami of other leaders and ministers.

So perhaps after Hasina AL will be gone forever if it can't change its mindset. But I wish Hasina will remove weeds of her party before retiring, so that without her presence, her party doesn't suffer much ( because of Indian stooge leaders).

Finally only Hasina doesn't have to change her mindset about Pakistan, but also common Pakistanis must have to change their stance on sheikh Hasina and Pakistan also should be warm with Hasina politically with fresh intention. And stop favoring BNP , as they did in past days , resulting the India dependency of AL.

So who will be our prime minister, and who will not be, it's completely our choice not their or any others ( no slightest compromise here) , and they also must stop taking anti Hasina side overtly. It's like poking others noes in our internal matter, and it's not acceptable. Are we going to do the same? We don't. Do we care who is in the power in Pakistan or not? We don't. We consider Pakistan as friendly nation despite caring who is the pm.

So as long as Hasina change her political rhetoric ( already in decline) , then common Pakistani people must stop abusing her using profane words.Hasina has at least 40% supporter In Bangladesh as her party is the biggest political party In Bangladesh .

And using profane words against sheikh Mujib must be considered as using profane words against Bangladesh.

My position is clear, I don't care what sheikh Mujib is for them or for anyone, but if they or anyone want to maintain warm brotherly relationship with us, they must have to recognize Mujib as our founding father so definitely can not disrespect him at least when Bangladesh is present , case closed.

We have a special identity and that is not based on India Pakistan war, but it's based on our liberation war. I am against to use liberation war as political tool as AL used to do it, and also want others ( be it Pakistani or others) to recognize our freedom war as the base of the foundation of Bangladesh instead of so called India Pakistan war.

And you can't even imagine our freedom war without sheikh Mujib. So who accept sheikh Mujib, and stop despising him ( at least infront of Bangladesh), he/she/they are accepting Bangladesh as separate entity.

We prefer our honor more than any kind of friendship and brotherhood, and that's it.

So only blaming Hasina onesided ( not addressing you it's a generalized approach for everyone. And besides you are an AL supporter and I am not, I just tolerate this govt for sheikh Hasina alone) for everything perhaps unwise thing to do. Hasina is not the root of all cause, but also at past Pakistan's position on our internal politics also a major cause that sheikh Hasina became like this.

So Pakistan also will have to maintain warm relation with her politically and even after this ( politically mutual with Pakistan) her anti Pakistan stance remain unchanged, then only we can blame her for everything, otherwise not. Their shall be no compromise one sided only from us, but it's their duty too.

@UKBengali

I don’t think this bloc will happen as much as I want it to. Malaysia’s mahathir’s statements is enough to say they’re out, Indonesia and turkey sure... but Bangladesh might be butthurt with Pakistan... who knows what may happen
@Michael Corleone
 
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It should be obvious, otherwise why our military shall buy a beast that has an extremely vulnerable side. If we buy with the unit cost of 100+ millions of dollars ( included training and everything) , and then it get shot down with a MANPAD too easily , then it will be a catastrophe. So indeed military is buying this stuff by taking it seriously I think.



Did she ever use anti Pakistan rhetoric when she won 1996 election? She didn't. And also you see Hasina already opened her mouth against India by saying that India did unnecessary thing with NRC and CAA. So I think situation is changing. So I think there is a possibility that even when Hasina in power, the atmosphere will be changed. Let's say after this term (2023), she will turn against India literally. She still have 4 long years before 2013-24 election, and another 5 years after it. So 9 years is too long to change her mindset I think, so I think there is nothing to lose hope about her in this Pakistan issue.

Contrary to popular belief, neither she give priority to Indian interest over national interest, nor her father did it. IMHO, it's only for the good works of sheikh Hasina and for the reputation of bangabandhu sheikh Mujib is the reason why AL is still popular despite the nasty works of BCL goons and chamchami of other leaders and ministers.

So perhaps after Hasina AL will be gone forever if it can't change its mindset. But I wish Hasina will remove weeds of her party before retiring, so that without her presence, her party doesn't suffer much ( because of Indian stooge leaders).

Finally only Hasina doesn't have to change her mindset about Pakistan, but also common Pakistanis must have to change their stance on sheikh Hasina and Pakistan also should be warm with Hasina politically with fresh intention. They must have to realize that it's 2020 and not 1971. So we are no longer one of their province, we are independent nation since 49 years.

So who will be our prime minister, and who will not be, it's completely our choice not their or any others ( no slightest compromise here) , and they also must have taking anti Hasina side overtly. It's like poking others noes in our internal matter, and it's not acceptable. Are we going to do the same? We don't. Do we care who is in the power in Pakistan or not? We don't. We consider Pakistan as friendly nation despite caring who is the pm.

So as long as Hasina change her political rhetoric ( already in decline) , then common Pakistani people must stop abusing her using profane words.

And using profane words against sheikh Mujib must be considered as using profane words against Bangladesh.

My position is clear, I did care what is sheikh Mujib for them, but if they or anyone want to maintain good relationship with us, they must have to recognize Mujib as our founding father, case closed.

We have a special identity and that is not based on India Pakistan war, but it's based on our liberation war. I am against to use liberation war as political tool as AL used to do it, and also want others ( be it Pakistani or others) to recognize our freedom war as the base of the foundation of Bangladesh instead of so called India Pakistan war.

And you can't even imagine our freedom war without sheikh Mujib. So who accept sheikh Mujib, and stop despising him, he/she/they are accepting Bangladesh as separate entity.

We prefer our honor more than any kind of friendship and brotherhood, and that's it.

So only blaming Hasina onsided ( not addressing you it's for everyone as you are an AL supporter and I am not, I just tolerate this govt for sheikh Hasina alone) for everything perhaps unwise thing to do. Hasina is not the root of all cause, but also at past Pakistan's position on our internal politics also a major cause that sheikh Hasina became like this.

So Pakistan also will have to maintain warm relation with her politically and even after this ( politically mutual with Pakistan) her anti Pakistan stance remain unchanged, then only we can blame her for everything, otherwise not. Their shall be no compromise one sided only from us, but it's their duty too.

@UKBengali


@Michael Corleone
Couldn’t have been said better, it’s a mature approach that you propose but I’m wondering what you’ll be quoted and replied with
 
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BD buys what India allows her to buy...

It’s a Permanent Settlement of the absolute subjugation by the by...

India’s downfall and BD’s emancipation will occur together....
@The Eagle, @WebMaster, should such provocative posts be permitted? If now I or any of us start replying it with the same tone, are you going to tolerate this?

Thanks and regards!

BD buys what India allows her to buy...

It’s a Permanent Settlement of the absolute subjugation by the by...

India’s downfall and BD’s emancipation will occur together....

India and BD are like husband and wife - BD’s current Foreign Minister

India and BD are one - BD’s current Finance Minister

What has Islam given to the humanity in 14 centuries that it has something to offer to BD? - BD’s former Finance Minister

BD is the most successful RAW ops - B Raman, former Deputy Chief of RAW in his book “Kaoboys: Down the Memory Lane”

BD will never be allowed to be outside the Indian radar - Former IA chief Gen Deepak Kapoor

We have taken revenge for the thousand years of Muslim rule - Indira Gandhi in a public meeting following the Indo-Pak war in 1971

Touching Hasina is equivalent to touching India - Indian FM in the parliament while airborne special forces units were being moved from Agra to the West Bengal as the BD military officers and their family members were being subjected to Gujrat style pogrom: rape, kill, burn etc...

Ps: He edited his comment and added his usual lame excuses to justify his provocative troll post after I reported to you. So I needed to quote it second time, so that you can distinguish easily.
 
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BD buys what India allows her to buy...

It’s a Permanent Settlement of the absolute subjugation by the by...

India’s downfall and BD’s emancipation will occur together....

India and BD are like husband and wife - BD’s current Foreign Minister

India and BD are one - BD’s current Finance Minister

What has Islam given to the humanity in 14 centuries that it has something to offer to BD? - BD’s former Finance Minister

BD is the most successful RAW ops - B Raman, former Deputy Chief of RAW in his book “Kaoboys: Down the Memory Lane”

BD will never be allowed to be outside the Indian radar - Former IA chief Gen Deepak Kapoor

We have taken revenge for the thousand years of Muslim rule - Indira Gandhi in a public meeting following the Indo-Pak war in 1971

Touching Hasina is equivalent to touching India - Indian FM in the parliament while airborne special forces units were being moved from Agra to the West Bengal as the BD military officers and their family members were being subjected to Gujrat style pogrom: rape, kill, burn etc...

@waz @WebMaster

Time and time again this individual posts broad, derogatory and counterproductive comments regarding Bangladesh.

This thread is about a seemingly significant event in defense procurement potentially signaling a major paradigm shift in the Bangladeshi military narrative.

Rather than any productive posts regarding the topic of this thread, this guy continues his agenda of belittling Bangladesh or Bengalis with the same old rhetoric.

A seeming lack of consequences for this behavior is disheartening.

Not that his opinion matters but again it gets old.

And certainly in a public forum where there are probably 1000 lurking readers to every poster, it perpetuates a sense of divisiveness and conflict when unity is needed between Muslims in general and especially with Muslims in South Asia given the current political environment.
 
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BD buys what India allows her to buy...

It’s a Permanent Settlement of the absolute subjugation by the by...

India’s downfall and BD’s emancipation will occur together....

India and BD are like husband and wife - BD’s current Foreign Minister

India and BD are one - BD’s current Finance Minister

What has Islam given to the humanity in 14 centuries that it has something to offer to BD? - BD’s former Finance Minister

BD is the most successful RAW ops - B Raman, former Deputy Chief of RAW in his book “Kaoboys: Down the Memory Lane”

BD will never be allowed to be outside the Indian radar - Former IA chief Gen Deepak Kapoor

We have taken revenge for the thousand years of Muslim rule - Indira Gandhi in a public meeting following the Indo-Pak war in 1971

Touching Hasina is equivalent to touching India - Indian FM in the parliament while airborne special forces units were being moved from Agra to the West Bengal as the BD military officers and their family members were being subjected to Gujrat style pogrom: rape, kill, burn etc...
You’re just a roach with hatred towards bd for some reason. If bd buys from China, russia, or anywhere else you’ll sing the same song

and as for ministers comments, some were pathetic but one line struck me, what has Islam given in 14th century of its existence... nothing but bullshit. It was used to created divide between ourselves (Shia / Sunni blah blah blah) and modern Islam has done nothing but hamper growth of Islamic world. It’s why your Ottoman Empire fell. It’s why sharif of Makkah aren’t rulers of Saudi... so just trying to badmouth bd in every turn, have something positive to discuss or don’t participate at all. You’re not welcome here

@waz @The Eagle @Dubious look into this, because I’m sure if I stoop to his level you’ll not wait a second to give me another negative rating
 
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BOEING SAYS BANGLADESH IS CONSIDERING AH-64E APACHE ATTACK HELICOPTERS
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Boeing confirmed to reports that its AH-64E Apache Guardian attack helicopter was “down-selected” for a potential acquisition program with the Bangladeshi armed forces.

Terry Jamison, the director of international vertical lift sales at Boeing, stated that Bangladesh is actively considering the Apache on both cost and capability grounds (source: Jane’s Defence Weekly).

This statement follows an earlier news report from Nikkei Asian Review of Dhaka initiating formal talks with Washington for the Apache and a range of other armaments.

To start the process, Bangladesh agreed to sign two critical agreements with the US, the Acquisitions and Cross Servicing Agreement (ACSA) and the General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA).

It will take up to four years to negotiate and sign both agreements, though it is possible that preliminary negotiations for major defence equipment could occur concurrently.

It should be noted that the GSOMIA and ACSA serve an essential role in supporting US security interests in the Pacific Ocean. Thus, the importance of the US’ negotiations with Bangladesh on these fronts should not be underestimated, it could amount to significant procurements through the 2020s.

In regards to Bangladesh’s interest in the Apache Guardian. The Bangladeshi military evidently has a new attack helicopter requirement under its modernization plans. The capability would enable it to provide its ground forces with close air support (CAS) against armour and infantry threats.

However, it would be interesting to see if Bangladesh tries working with one main supplier, in this scenario Boeing, to fulfill multiple requirements. So, in addition to attack helicopters, might it look to Boeing for a new multi-role combat aircraft as well? It is worth noting that the Bangladesh Air Force’s (BAF) initial new fighter requirement (set under a tender in 2017) was for up to 12 twin-engine fighters.
 
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@waz @WebMaster

Time and time again this individual posts broad, derogatory and counterproductive comments regarding Bangladesh.

This thread is about a seemingly significant event in defense procurement potentially signaling a major paradigm shift in the Bangladeshi military narrative.

Rather than any productive posts regarding the topic of this thread, this guy continues his agenda of belittling Bangladesh or Bengalis with the same old rhetoric.

A seeming lack of consequences for this behavior is disheartening.

Not that his opinion matters but again it gets old.

And certainly in a public forum where there are probably 1000 lurking readers to every poster, it perpetuates a sense of divisiveness and conflict when unity is needed between Muslims in general and especially with Muslims in South Asia given the current political environment.

Deleted bro and he won’t post on this topic again.
 
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BAF what ever they buy must be careful because if it crash good luck usa wont pay or replace the bought items :)
superhornet is good but that is expensive and also apache was choosen by BD there was no tender like china russia eu included
 
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