Any threat to Pakistan’s integrity is unacceptable: Saudi King assures COAS

[Goenitz]

acha sab choor pehlay woh hamray Pakistanio ko nationality tu doo

Kingdom's (saltanat) dont grant nationality to anybody..... states may do however.....

With out ships we can't transport soldiers to Saudia in time and that is the truth

If we had 4-5 Destroyers or 10 C130 new ones we could transport troops to Saudia much faster in time of crisis

how about raising a Rapid Corp (funded by SA) dedicated for such situation... they pay to US for the troops statined there

 

[IceCold]

Please do not mix economic policies with diplomatic ones. All nations are free to exploit economic resources and trade as they wish. This is how it should be and neither we can object not they can raise an objection. As far labor, well ratio is still higher in favor of Pakistan especially in KSA. There are some specific privileges extended to Pakistanis which are not given to India or other countries. For example Pakistani women do not work as house maids. Indian military officials do not serve in their militaries while Pakistanis do. Despite Indian attempts they have been denied.

As far diplomatic front, you need to go back in UN history and you will see Arab league and GCC now have been supporting Pakistan constantly on Kashmir and other issues. There can not be a blanket support at world stage. You give some you receive some. Two factors went against Pakistan here. Internal weakness due to poor leadership and inconsistent policies. And second indigenous Kashmiris did not voice their rights as loudly as they should have. You can not raise an issue if Kashmiris of IOK are not as vocally protesting. Nevertheless, history will show you that Turkey+GCC nations is all that we have got to support us on Kashmir.

Problem lies in our own weaknesses. A weak country can not return favors and hence can not receive unconditional support. By late 70s and 80s, Pakistan was seen as leading Muslim country in scientific achievement, modernity and military training. Muslims around the world, especially Arab nations were in awe of our educational standards, scientific achievements and military training. At that time Pakistan was the best Muslim world could present so they happily supported us and our programs. What happened afterwards? We lost our way and became increasingly weaker. World doesn't wait for you, they moved on. Whatever support you see today is remnant of those days. Today Pakistan can only offer its military expertise. It isn't healthy to complain for the sake of it. For some reason we as a nation have a false sense of entitlement. We want everyone to just serve us with goodies while we are not bound to offer anything in return. World doesn't work that way. Respect has to be earned not demanded.

But they were and are raising objections over Iran Pakistan gas pipeline. Besides if economic policies were not to be mixed with diplomatic ones, than countries like US Japan EU would not place sanctions on Russia. Point being if you have the power economic or otherwise you use your clout, sadly that has not been the CA's when it came to these countries forcing India to resolve Kashmir dispute. Yes they did support us in UN, but we all know it has little to no impact whatsoever other than just a showcase of moral support. Your last paragraph is irrelevant to our discussion hence would not comment on that.

 

[beast89]

@Zarvan learn to think for yourself. Marib battle still rages and more UAE forces are going lol (i thought the major battle ended weeks ago)

https://twitter.com/x/status/662889535420796929

houthis taking over Rabua, whilst saudi family soldiers flee. This isn't being reported on saudi tv lol

 

[Zarvan]

@Zarvan learn to think for yourself. Marib battle still rages and more UAE forces are going lol (i thought the major battle ended weeks ago)

https://twitter.com/x/status/662889535420796929

houthis taking over Rabua, whilst saudi family soldiers flee. This isn't being reported on saudi tv lol

Iranian lies battle in most areas is over with UAE and Saudis in control in fact after beating the hell out of Houthis now UAE and Saudis have started attacking Al Qaeda in Yemen

 

[beast89]

Iranian lies battle in most areas is over with UAE and Saudis in control in fact after beating the hell out of Houthis now UAE and Saudis have started attacking Al Qaeda in Yemen

blind knee-jerk reactions you can't even respond adequately to evidence shown to you.......you are not a saudi remember that! Marib battle rages....hence your kings haven't pushed towards saana. Aden is lawless with Alqadea. Show me evidence of the coalition effectively combating their wahhabi brothers? Ill experienced and incompetent gulfies are in a quagmire hence poor sudanese troops and columbian mercs have been called up.

 

[Zarvan]

blind knee-jerk reactions you can't even respond adequately to evidence shown to you.......you are not a saudi remember that! Marib battle rages....hence your kings haven't pushed towards saana. Aden is lawless with Alqadea. Show me evidence of the coalition effectively combating their wahhabi brothers?

Aden in full control of KSA. KSA and UAE main interests was securing port city of aden make sure smooth supply of oil through Red Sea. As for Sanna they have enough time to bomb Houthis their as for Al QAEDA they are no getting beating. As for so called proof most are fake videos or videos of Iraq being edited and used here

 

[beast89]

Aden in full control of KSA. KSA and UAE main interests was securing port city of aden make sure smooth supply of oil through Red Sea. As for Sanna they have enough time to bomb Houthis their as for Al QAEDA they are no getting beating. As for so called proof most are fake videos or videos of Iraq being edited and used here

seriously you indoctrinated to saudi levels.

 

[Zarvan]

seriously you indoctrinated to saudi levels.

I am not I hate Saudis when they do nothing when Gaza is attacked or Palestinians are killed

 

[RoadRunner401]

Bro,As Pakistan possesses a huge and capable military as well as the nuclear capability,that makes us the de-facto leader of the so called Ummah.
And no where did I say that i support this Ummah mentality.I am more of a nationalist. I agree that some of our ``brotherly`` Muslim countries support terrorism in Pakistan in one way or the other directly or indirectly.
Having said all that,I still believe that Muslim countries should overcome their differences and work more closely for their own betterment.And by doing so we can achieve the definition of Ummah.Calling all the Muslim countries as Ummah is not very wrong either.Its just that now their goals and strategies are different which can be changed over time to bring them under one umbrella of Ummah.I can give u the example of NATO in which different countries having different foreign policies still work as a single unit.
All in all,I can say that I do not believe in Ummah as of now due to our differences.But achieving that goal of one Ummah is plausible in future.

I respect and understand what you are saying, but only thing that matters to me is Pakistan. We should fix Pakistan first, then we can worry about Ummah or Mars.

 

[Paksanity]

But they were and are raising objections over Iran Pakistan gas pipeline. Besides if economic policies were not to be mixed with diplomatic ones, than countries like US Japan EU would not place sanctions on Russia. Point being if you have the power economic or otherwise you use your clout, sadly that has not been the CA's when it came to these countries forcing India to resolve Kashmir dispute. Yes they did support us in UN, but we all know it has little to no impact whatsoever other than just a showcase of moral support. Your last paragraph is irrelevant to our discussion hence would not comment on that.

Iran pipeline was a non-starter from the beginning. It brings no significant benefit to Pakistan, however if it did, Pakistan had and has all the right to go ahead with it. Their objections would not mean much. But in a scenario where Pakistan is dependent and not as Political and economically strong to defend her interests, such objections aren't meaningless. You can not fault them for raising such objections. They will pursue their interests in foreign countries if they are given space. The question is how they got that space inside Pakistan?

Our economic policies are ours and only ours to decide. By the same token, theirs are for them to decide. If we wish that they help us on Kashmir question is why should they? All diplomacy is give some and get some. What do we have to give? There is some we can give on security, diplomatic and economic front but is it enough to outweigh what our opponents have on offer? Sadly it isn't the case as of today. Hopefully it will be one day and on that day we shall see not only GCC countries but many other supporting us on Kashmir. Till such time however, we should make use of whatever support we do have. It will be foolish to destroy an established relationship which took many decades to build without an equivalent if not more powerful relationship being established. We don't want to be left high and dry in the middle of nowhere all alone, do we?

 

[Tricktor]

So what's he going to do?? Send KSA's Mlitary to Pakistan!!! ( No offense )

Seeing as the world economy is run off Saudi oil, there is OBVIOUSLY a lot they can do. ( No offense )

 

[Ray_of_Hope]

I respect and understand what you are saying, but only thing that matters to me is Pakistan. We should fix Pakistan first, then we can worry about Ummah or Mars.

I agree cent percent to that...

 

[Jaam92]

Same line like a parrot repeated by Madrassah educated House of Saud lovers.

Instead of showing us your intellectual level by swearing, why don't you try to convince us why Saudi is better, then Iran or Yemen or China.

What did KSA do for you? Other than financing the terrorist.

Einstein, Mumar Gaddafi was Libyan not Iranian, it was Libyan airliner that landed in Washington full of information about the nukes not Iranian.

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And who is this, we, I don't support your claim, nor I stand behind this notion that we support KSA blindly.

I only can laugh at your frustration lol
It is clear that we are more bonded KSA then Iran.
Ok Tell me what Iran did for us
Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan exposed by Iran in which Pakistan's respect decreases It was deal that Pakistan first gain Nuclear capability then transfer technology to Iran, Iraq, KSA and other Arab countries but when Iran get what they want they exposed Pakistan like MUNAFIQ. Iran is snake for Muslim ummah. Can you tell me how many Pakistani worker those were uneducated and jobless where they gone. They went to Arab countries and earning pure Halal and good money for themselves and their families can you tell me how many Pakistan workers are working in Iran. Why Iran want strong relationship with India. Why Iran attack on Grand Mosque Makkah. Why Iran supporting Yemen's rebels like RAW is supporting BLA TTP etc I am sure that you don't have answers of my questions

 

[RoadRunner401]

I only can laugh at your frustration lol

I am glade, I can make you smile.

it is clear that we are more bonded KSA then Iran.

Your loyalty lies with a House of Saud, but not with Pakistan.

Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan exposed by Iran in which Pakistan's respect decreases It was deal that Pakistan first gain Nuclear capability then transfer technology to Iran, Iraq, KSA and other Arab countries but when Iran get what they want they exposed Pakistan like MUNAFIQ.

L O L

Iran is snake for Muslim ummah

He Pee brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know you are a product of Madrassah because you can't read, write or see, otherwise you would have known by now that I am a Pakistani. Not a house of Saud lover, will do anything for Riyal or an Iranian. you have a problem with Iran, I am sure our Iranian members can put you in proper place you belong.

Can you tell me how many Pakistani worker those were uneducated and jobless where they gone.

All over the world, including but not limited to GCC.

They went to Arab countries and earning pure Halal and good money for themselves and their families

You mean they get paid for their work, like all people all over the world, is that some kinds of miracle.

can you tell me how many Pakistan workers are working in Iran.

.NO, I have no knowledge of this matter, I am sure you do. Last I checked Iranian were under sanctions and didn't have much of an economy. But I can tell you the amount of Indians in GCC out numbers Pakistanis. I know, I know it's a shocker, but close your mouth go change your shalwar and ask the mullah ɹossǝɟoɹd (professor) daddy daddy what is this guy talking about.

Why Iran attack on Grand Mosque Makkah

First you answer my question, why did chicken cross the road.

Why Iran supporting Yemen's rebels like RAW is supporting BLA TTP etc I am sure that you don't have answers of my questions

Last I checked, it's the house of Saud that's bombing Yemen. BLA leaderships resides in Dubai and 100% of the TTP financing comes from GCC.

Now go away, shoo shoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Pindi Boy]

In Sinhala and Malayalam, Ummah means kiss.

Keep these 1/2 liners to your self

I know the depth. They export their radical Islam and madarasa education istitutions to you, and you thank them by imagining some strategic depth love fest on forums

@waz @Horus Plzz check this Troll