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Another wave of Anti-Pakistani campaign in Turkey brewing. This time, Ataturk and Nuclear Technology is being discussed.

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I am in Turkey Izmir right now. The vast majority of Turks in this part of the world know little about Pakistan. The people in Izmir that I have met aren't hostile towards Pakistan. The person you met must have been some self loathing libturd. What I have noticed in various parts of Turkey is the same division we see in Pakistan among liberals and religious folks. Often the various Turks have disagreements and arguments on who is right wrong.

What we saw on Twitter was an engineered campaign by a handful of right-wing nationalist libturds. I don't see a glimpse of anti-Pakistan hatred in Turkey.

Well a few things. I already knew Turkey is like the average Muslim country. Divided between the conservative rural classes and urban liberal classes.

The same is true for Egypt, Pakistan, Malaysia and just about every other Muslim country. So there's nothing new there.

Only libturd Turks want to believe that their rural majority does not exist. They preach their country to be "secular" while most upper class Muslims from other countries acknowledge their religious rural class.

The Europeanized upper class of Turkey are known as the "white Turks" in contrast to the "black turks" who are religious and non-Westernized.

The white Turks are commonly found on the Western coast of Turkey. Even if Izmir as a city is not necessarily anti-Pakistan, you'll still find the anti-Pakistan libturd white turks from areas like Istanbul, Izmir, Antalya etc.

They are basically the Turkish version of Persian monarchists or Indian upper class Brahmanists whom claim India to be one of the "richest countries in the world."

We had an Iraqi Kurdish tenant living in our house whom left in March and he lived in Turkey for years before moving to Canada. He claimed people from the western coast of Turkey are some of the most brainwashed delusional types.
 
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I never understood why Southasians, specially North indians(and some Pakistanis members here) ,bother so much what others think of us.
Why does it matter?
There opinion is not worthy of any sort of consideration.
Govt. To Govt. Relation will remain irrespective of any such incidents.
Illegal migrants are a menace, irrespective of country, though some more some less.
We need not defend any of there actions(lot of Indians illegally go to other countries too).
They are simple criminals, if they can arrange money for the travel, they most certainly can manage to invest that money here and work hard to earn honest money.
But like most runners these weasels want easy money.
Turkish people are well within there rights to be wary of illegal immigrants like everyone else.
And if similar thing happen to us we would perhaps act similarly or worse.
So friends don't make a mountain out a molehill.
Anyway most Normal Pakistanis are never going to meet any Turkish people, only the runners will face them. Let them manage there illegal runner cousins, by simply disowning these weasels publicly and supporting Turkish people stance against them.
On turkey part they ought to do strictr border surveillance.
 
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I never understood why Southasians, specially North indians(and some Pakistanis members here) ,bother so much what others think of us.
Why does it matter?
There opinion is not worthy of any sort of consideration.
Govt. To Govt. Relation will remain irrespective of any such incidents.
Illegal migrants are a menace, irrespective of country, though some more some less.
We need not defend any of there actions(lot of Indians illegally go to other countries too).
Actually it's a much much bigger problem for us cause for decades Iran, Afghan borders were open borders
Cause of that many people have been going to Europe illegally through that route

It's not that easy for y'all cause of Pakistan which is among one of the most harshest borders in the world

So you could never join that route
They are simple criminals, if they can arrange money for the travel, they most certainly can manage to invest that money here and work hard to earn honest money.
But like most runners these weasels want easy money.
Turkish people are well within there rights to be wary of illegal immigrants like everyone else.
And if similar thing happen to us we would perhaps act similarly or worse.
Treat the criminals like shit - I don't care
But a lot of people are shitting on our entire country - that's why people got kinda mad
So friends don't make a mountain out a molehill.
Anyway most Normal Pakistanis are never going to meet any Turkish people, only the runners will face them. Let them manage there illegal runner cousins.
 
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Do not give your nuclear tech to anybody. PPP should be tried for treason for Benazir divulging nuclear secrets to Iran.
lols your bastards faujis love zardaris/bhuttos so much they might make them King of Pakistan! trying them is not possible!
 
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Treat the criminals like shit - I don't care
But a lot of people are shitting on our entire country - that's why people got kinda mad
That, lot of people, saying bad about Pakistan,on internet, concludes to absolutely nothing.
Is that not true, then why bother?
Turkish people are aggravated, they are entitled to speak out. But that has no apparent bearing on Pak-Turk relationship, on govt level.
Atmost Pakistan can be more vigilant in border patrol, which would be beneficial to Pakistan also, given the Afghan influx.
PS- Just saw your dp. Remembered that that you told me how to change dp, but i tried and couldn't as described by you.
By the by, would you sport the dp of Ehsanulla ehsan, as he too claims to be doing good, for the people.
This guy killed, you can argue if whether his motive was right or wrong, but if similar vigilate justice is carried out in Pakistan, would it be ok.
What would you say to the families of the fallen?
 
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Now they are using these incidents to frame Pakistanis badly. You should see their comments on YouTube claiming who needs to make friends with a bunch of Sindhi and Punjabis just because they use a moon & a star on their flag.

They claim it's Turkic and not Islamic. However we want to look further back it was used by our early Indo-Iranic ancestors who roamed the Eurasian steppes during the Bronze age before settling in the Indus Valley . These Turkic nomads borrowed it from our Aryan ancestors.

Event the domestication of the horse was their invention adopted by Turkic nomads probably from our own Aryan ancestors.
As far as I know, the earliest known historical depiction of star crescent symbol is Sumerian [third dynasty of Ur] from over 2000 BCE.
 
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Even after he was confirmed as a Turk, the so called "peace loving" people are in denial. Look at all the quotes!

Sorry but you're trying to whitewash. This whole debate shouldn't be discussed in this thread either because it's much bigger than this topic. Arab youth in general and South Asians in particular don't know how to behave in front of non-related females. This is no secret.

Nobody is saying that Turkish rapists in Turkey don't exist. We're talking about this because many self-declared Super Muslims with a Taqwa as high as the Himalayan mountains from dedicated Islamic republics like Afghanistan and Pakistan are showcasing their bad behavior in foreign lands.

I still haven't the right to be racist towards Pakistani or Afghani people because ethnicity and nationality aren't clothes you can pick or change whenever.

We must find a middle way, be enlightened and respectful. However, you entirely ignoring the problem isn't helping either.
 
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Well a few things. I already knew Turkey is like the average Muslim country. Divided between an conservative rural class and an urban liberal class.

The same is true for Egypt, Pakistan, Malaysia and just about every other Muslim country. So there's nothing new there.

Only libturd Turks want to believe that their rural majority does not exist. They preach their country to be "secular" while most upper class Muslims from other countries acknowledge their religious rural class.

The Europeanized upper class of Turkey are known as the "white Turks" in contrast to the "black turks" who are religious and non-Westernized.

The white Turks are commonly found on the Western coast of Turkey. Even if Izmir as a city is not necessarily anti-Pakistan, you'll still find the anti-Pakistan libturd white turks from areas like Istanbul, Izmir, Antalya etc.

They are basically the Turkish version of Persian monarchists or Indian upper class Brahmanists whom claim India to be one of the "richest countries in the world."

We had an Iraqi Kurdish tenant living in our house whom left in March and he lived in Turkey for years before moving to Canada. He claimed people from the western coast of Turkey are some of the most brainwashed delusional types.

I am sure some irrelevant libturd Turks exist that hate Islam and by extension Pakistan. Obviously, the liberal equates Pakistan with Islam and that is the main point of contention. Irrelevant to be frank. I am in Izmir and I am moving around from one place to another. Buying houses and introducing myself to many Turks. Not one issue. I have yet to encounter one liberal Turk telling me to my face his/her dislike for Pakistan. I am sure I will encounter the racist libturd eventually. The Turkish people are generally speaking fine people.

Even after he was confirmed as a Turk, the so called "peace loving" people are in denial. Look at all the quotes!


These racist libturds don't represent the majority of Turks. LOL we can count these racist Twitter accounts on one hand.
 
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Well a few things. I already knew Turkey is like the average Muslim country. Divided between an conservative rural class and an urban liberal class.

The same is true for Egypt, Pakistan, Malaysia and just about every other Muslim country. So there's nothing new there.

Only libturd Turks want to believe that their rural majority does not exist. They preach their country to be "secular" while most upper class Muslims from other countries acknowledge their religious rural class.

The Europeanized upper class of Turkey are known as the "white Turks" in contrast to the "black turks" who are religious and non-Westernized.

The white Turks are commonly found on the Western coast of Turkey. Even if Izmir as a city is not necessarily anti-Pakistan, you'll still find the anti-Pakistan libturd white turks from areas like Istanbul, Izmir, Antalya etc.

They are basically the Turkish version of Persian monarchists or Indian upper class Brahmanists whom claim India to be one of the "richest countries in the world."

We had an Iraqi Kurdish tenant living in our house whom left in March and he lived in Turkey for years before moving to Canada. He claimed people from the western coast of Turkey are some of the most brainwashed delusional types.
Man,I can't see your flags so can I ask where are you from originally?
 
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