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Another Indian Muslim man beaten to death over beef...

My charismatic smiles have been characterized by some individuals to have the capability to enthrall the opposite gender, however please cease your fascination because I don't swing towards that direction:) Your naive analysis on a secular India, where harmony can be achieved is a fallacy waiting to be shattered at the correct moment of time.

When Pakistani members condemn such incidences in your country, then an uproar transcends from a large number of Indian members who either tell us to mind our own business or the outcome was justified. Therefore, I have decided upon the conjecture to remain in the middle ground and support the cause of the Hindu fanatics who have done a brilliant job. As Sun Tzu mentioned in the art of war:"A good general is one who fights one battle instead of a hundred". These incidences will damage India, without Pakistan lifting a finger:)

LOL. At my age, all this doesn't matter; what remains of interest is the curious ways in which people convey simple thoughts - their lack of confidence, their bluster, their banging the table in assertion of their superiority, above all, their curious disinclination to address facts.

Your answers are instructive. It seems that Pakistani public opinion, if you represent it, is quite derivative and dependent.
 
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It is amazing that you have uncovered such a secret as producing arguments that are often consistent and ones that are centred on realism rather than a utopia - oh, all right, have it your way, a utopia world.
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When men are deceived in the philosophy of secularism as they suffer from a sense of insignificance in society there original naive mindset mechanizes on to the picture that there existence towards the center of the universe is meaninglessness. Henceforth the reaction from Hindu fanatics is predictable, because they fear the unknown and have no interests of India becoming colonized by Muslim culture. Its imperative to understand realism and to teach the ignorant masses. As the Chinese proverb mentions "Give me a fish and I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish and I will eat for a lifetime".
 
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Shamed? :lol:

And please don't counter it u don't even understand what i was trying to say at first u tried to make it look like I wanted communism then CPC supporter now a Pakistani Collaborate .

It seems Intellectuals like u can't even bear anyone having different views .:enjoy:

Maybe you are shameless. Its been know to happen to "seculars". First make sure YOU know what you are saying before expecting OTHERS to understand what you are saying. That way you don''t sound like a fool and as a bonus, you don't waste anybody time.

Take it easy. He is, in a way, correct; it is the Hindu core establishment, the caste Hindus, asserting the domination over society that they had claimed before Islam in India. This domination was suppressed for centuries, but quite obviously was a submerged itch present right through, an itch which found expression first in the revivalism of Tilak, who wanted to raise a supine set off their faces and back onto their feet. It then showed itself in Savarkar's toxic doctrine, then through that within the Congress movement in Lajpat Rai's right wing proclivities to form a permanent bastion in the Congress, one which effectively kept the Congress both tied to the right-wing sensitivity throughout the Gandhian phase of the freedom struggle, and prone to consider the Muslim Indian a concept or a cooky-cutter group, each of which thought as the others did.

This is the external, hegemonic manifestation in power, shoving their muscles into everyone's face. Including into the faces of other Hindus.

Its unlikely this dumb@ss will have any Idea what you are talking about :lol:

Are you claiming "Brahminical" dominance during the Islamic Rule and then British Christian rule for 800 years ? :woot:


Your Caste and Dalit card has been played to death over the years...... so it really does not create the outrage you are hoping for .. times have changed and it has passed you by. Kanchan Illayah is no more an hero, he is now truly an "out caste". Ironic, no ?

Are you talking about the same Gandhian phase which started the day with a Hindu prayer and hoped to achieve "Ram Rajya" and died with a "hey Ram" ? :cheesy:
 
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I look forward to further postings. Your gloating has an oleaginous content that has a wonderful effect on the floor, whatever the finish be. You might legitimately claim status as an all surface saponific agent.

Your anticipation is understandable since a student is prone to imitate the teachings of his sage. However like the Chinese proverb mentions:"A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion". As for your last sentence, I can consume a whole bowl of alphabet soup and excrete out a much better statement than that:)
 
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Are you claiming "Brahminical" dominance during the Islamic Rule and then British Christian rule for 800 years ? :woot:

Nah, he is lamenting that the golden Islamic rule followed by the splendiferous British rule which managed to keep Brahminical dominance suppressed is no more. He is even more fearful that all the toxic Hindu heritage that his wonderful heroes had managed to kill/suppress will pollute and subvert the Islamic India he and his cohorts were trying to recreate.
 
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Even though i believe that it's just an isolated incident people comparing the value of a human life with that of a cow are just plane stupid.
 
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Maybe you are shameless. Its been know to happen to "seculars". First make sure YOU know what you are saying before expecting OTHERS to understand what you are saying. That way you don''t sound like a fool and as a bonus, you don't waste anybody time.



Its unlikely this dumb@ss will have any Idea what you are talking about :lol:

Are you claiming "Brahminical" dominance during the Islamic Rule and then British Christian rule for 800 years ? :woot:

This domination was suppressed for centuries, but quite obviously was a submerged itch present right through

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Your Caste and Dalit card has been played to death over the years...... so it really does not create the outrage you are hoping for .. times have changed and it has passed you by. Kanchan Illayah is no more an hero, he is now truly an "out caste". Ironic, no ?

No.

I don't think that this will pass us by, ever, not unless and until the situation is set right.

Are you talking about the same Gandhian phase which started the day with a Hindu prayer and hoped to achieve "Ram Rajya" and died with a "hey Ram" ? :cheesy:

I was talking about the Gandhian phase which was marked by an undercover influence on Congress politics by Hindu right-wingers, about the Gandhian phase that saw us win freedom, while the Sangh Parivar cowered, and crawled in front of the British, seeking exemptions, about the Gandhian phase where a staunch Hindu was murdered by a bigoted Hindu, which is precisely the major conflict in India today.

Your anticipation is understandable since a student is prone to imitate the teachings of his sage. However like the Chinese proverb mentions:"A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion". As for your last sentence, I can consume a whole bowl of alphabet soup and excrete out a much better statement than that:)

We acknowledge that you excrete your better statements. It was suspected, but there is nothing like an unsolicited confession.
 
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Nah, he is lamenting that the golden Islamic rule followed by the splendiferous British rule which managed to keep Brahminical dominance suppressed is no more. He is even more fearful that all the toxic Hindu heritage that his wonderful heroes had managed to kill/suppress will pollute and subvert the Islamic India he and his cohorts were trying to recreate.

Then his lamenting is understandable :D

The toxicity of Hindu heritage is indeed severely potent and is know to spread like virus right up to Japan and Korea and now even to the US.

This virus attaches itself to the cultural DNA and irreversible mutates it into something called dharmic living.

India being ground Zero is no doubt the most dangerous of all ...... no wonder Dr. islam, dr. christ and Dr. commi has been trying to eliminate it or even render it impotent. Nothing seems to work ........ it seems god himself wants it to survive :P

Even though i believe that it's just an isolated incident people comparing the value of a human life with that of a cow are just plane stupid.

Indeed ..... how about the value of American humans life with the life of an Arab human ? :coffee:

Just trying to determine the pecking order as per the intelligent ones. Cows no doubt come much lower.

This domination was suppressed for centuries, but quite obviously was a submerged itch present right through


As a "brahmin" you should know :P ......I don't claim such "high" birth.

I was talking about the Gandhian phase which was marked by an undercover influence on Congress politics by Hindu right-wingers, about the Gandhian phase that saw us win freedom, while the Sangh Parivar cowered, and crawled in front of the British, seeking exemptions, about the Gandhian phase where a staunch Hindu was murdered by a bigoted Hindu, which is precisely the major conflict in India today.


LOL..... This old congress argument is also past its expire date. No one buys it anymore :cheesy: (a debate perhaps for another day/thread)

Even if they did, This is a a new age India. Free of the burdens of History. It weights you down, not me. We are very comfortable with Hindutva as demonstrated by political realities today.
 
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Then his lamenting is understandable :D

Indeed ..... how about the value of American humans life with the life of an Arab human ? :coffee:
Just trying to determine the pecking order as per the intelligent ones. Cows no doubt come much lower.

I don't really get you are trying to say vis-à-vis my above quoted post. Well as an Indian i value the life of my countrymen more than anything else and same can be said about Americans. The Americans also value the life of their countrymen above everyone else just like any another nation. And as far as i i'm concerned cows are not considered as Indian citizens .
 
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Then his lamenting is understandable :D

The toxicity of Hindu heritage is indeed severely potent and is know to spread like virus right up to Japan and Korea and now even to the US.

This virus attaches itself to the cultural DNA and irreversible mutates it into something called dharmic living.

India being ground Zero is no doubt the most dangerous of all ...... no wonder Dr. islam, dr. christ and Dr. commi has been trying to eliminate it or even render it impotent. Nothing seems to work ........ it seems god himself wants it to survive :P
:enjoy::lol:
 
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I don't really get you are trying to say vis-à-vis my above quoted post. Well as an Indian i value the life of my countrymen more than anything else and same can be said about Americans. The Americans also value the life of their countrymen above everyone else just like any another nation. And as far as i i'm concerned cows are not considered as Indian citizens .

Your Japanese flag confused me hence the american example. ..... but let me continue on the same lines.

An American value american live over Arab lives (just an eg) because the American contributes MORE to his society than an Arab. THAT is why the value of some lives is MORE than others.

Hindu value system assign the milch cow the same value as any other contributing member of society and hence ethics and morality dictate they deserve the same level of protection that any other member of society gets.

Citizenship however is determined by the ability to VOTE. So yes, cows cannot vote, nor can the environment or foreign citizens in India. But ALL of them deserve our Protection for the Same reason.
 
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