another dog attack in india - some pdf members should please clap

[Mythal]

I think you mixed dog with hyena.

Hyena is a scavenger like vulture

And what does wild/stray dogs eat?

 

[Indiran Chandiran]

You guys just have to bring religion in it. People argue over religion, no one follows it.

Religion exists for people & not the other way around.

Religion is meant to be a bridge between the world as we know it & the spiritual. The goal of all those seeking salvation is to mount the boat of religion to the journey which terminates at the shores of spiritualism .That is the destination. Too many people confuse the medium of transportation or the journey as the destination .There in lies part of the problem . Having attained salvation , should it matter which way you come through ?Abrahamic religions differ violently on this aspect.Dharmic religions differ too but not to the point of violence.At least not in the present day.

Another problem lies in the reading of religion .There are two aspects to it.The letter & the spirit .There are many who go only by the letter of the religion without considering the essential spirit behind it.

I once read that an article where a renowned Jewish rabbi was asked what does the Talmud mean .He answered - do unto your neighbours what you would have them do unto you.That's the spirit of the Talmud .The rest is mere commentary.

That is also the essence of any religion.

I happened to see a few episodes of Zakir Naik.I won't go into the obvious ( criticisms of him , his style of exposition & his views).His prodigious memory ( while admirable ) seems limited only by his understanding of Islam vs the world.That , in essence is what he & his world view are all about.The reason I cite his example is to illustrate what merely reading from the texts can do to you without sound intellectual reasoning on what the essential spirit of that religion & its texts embody. I've cited Zakir Naik as we are , at least , cursorily familiar with him & what his views stands for.This could be true for a Zakir Naik representing any religion.

Our friend @jamahir is another manifestation of the same problem.

 

[Signalian]

And what does wild/stray dogs eat?

Not carrion atleast.

Carrion eaters are coyotes, opposums, Tasmanian Devils.

Wild/stray dogs eat left overs by humans or steal kills from animals. Sometimes rodents like mice etc.

 

[livingdead]

stray dogs need to be neutered if some cities like bangalore has this menace surely local govt can do something about it...
Also dog owner should be responsible for any attack their dog might do on others, thats how it is in UK.. your dog bites me then you are in soup and your dog will be destroyed. Some argressive breeds are illegal here.
@jamahir are you against dogs because you are muslim and islam says dogs are filthy?

 

[Lord ZeN]

three such members, @Robinhood Pandey , @T-72M1 and @Parul need to be delivered to the family of this attacked girl and the three should be told to laugh at the attacked girl as they did at my posts... another member, @Technogaianist , should show this girl and her family "cute" posters of dogs... however, i won't guarantee the safety of these four pdf members.

There is a hell lot of difference between stray dogs and pet dogs even though both are dogs. It's just like the difference between hardcore jihadists and normal people even though both are Homo sapiens.

But i do agree that we need to something about stray dogs running amok in India. In the West there are lot of associations for the welfare of abandoned pets and stray dogs. There are also centers for pet adoption. We hardly get to see any stray dogs or cats on the street there. We need to set up such welfare organizations and adoption centers for dogs in India too.

Also, we need to sterilize and vaccinate these stray dogs to counter-check their increasing number and to prevent the spread of rabies. The dog owners should be made to obtain license and regularly immunize their pets. In many municipal heath centers, there is severe shortage of rabies vaccine. We need to have adequate supply of the vaccine.

The stray dog menace happens mostly in the areas where there are street meat and fish markets and hotels. To discard or litter the waste along the road sides should be penalized and the door to door collection of food wastes by the municipal authorities should be encouraged instead of the road side bins.

And remember Dogs are man’s best friends but only if we care for them .
If we don't they are just wild animals.

 

[Mythal]

Not carrion atleast.

Carrion eaters are coyotes, opposums, Tasmanian Devils.

Wild/stray dogs eat left overs by humans or steal kills from animals. Sometimes rodents like mice etc.

"With the void left by the vultures, and abundant carcasses available, populations of fast breeding scavengers like feral dogs, crows, and rats are escalating rapidly."

India Vulture Die-Off Spurs Carcass Crisis

 

[Signalian]

"With the void left by the vultures, and abundant carcasses available, populations of fast breeding scavengers like feral dogs, crows, and rats are escalating rapidly."

India Vulture Die-Off Spurs Carcass Crisis

If by scavenging you mean eating food left over by humans, then yes.

Dogs are not in carrion eating list
Carrion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Mythal]

If by scavenging you mean eating food left over by humans, then yes.

Dogs are not in carrion eating list
Carrion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is no list of all Carrion eating animals on this link you provided. There are just a few examples and dogs would have made a pretty complicated example because their diet varies depending upon the environment they grew up in. Eating road kills and dead carcasses is pretty common for stray dogs.

 

[Signalian]

There is no list of all Carrion eating animals on this link you provided. There are just a few examples and dogs would have made a pretty complicated example because their diet varies depending upon the environment they grew up in. Eating road kills and dead carcasses is pretty common for stray dogs.

If what you say is true, means they acclimatise.

 

[dray]

@jamahir are you against dogs because you are muslim and islam says dogs are filthy?

Dogs seems to be haram in Islam, seeing that he hates dogs and always talk about killing them in every other thread, and knowing that he is a closet islamist, I doubted that and searched for it 3-4 weeks ago, and voila!!

is dog haram in islam - Google Search

Radicals come in many forms, some advocate killing of human beings, some dogs!!

And you already know the reason of his love for cats!

The Love and Importance of Cats in Islam | islam.ru

Mullah Ji disguised as Socialist?

He is not a socialist either, in many threads he has argued that Islamic economic/financial system is socialist in nature, hence his love for socialism.

@jamahir

 

[Nilgiri]

@jamahir You hate dogs with a passion for some reason.

I don't like cats all that much, doesn't mean I need to impose my views on everyone as fact. Animal companions take many forms and guises for different people.

Stray dogs can be a problem and should be tackled where they present danger.

Just like the danger feral cats pose to natural environments in many areas of the world.

Australian government declares war on feral cats in bid to save native animals | Environment | The Guardian

Kangaroo Island group sets 2030 feral cat eradication deadline as part of three-stage project - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[jamahir]

Dogs seems to be haram in Islam, seeing that he hates dogs and always talk about killing them in every other thread, and knowing that he is a closet islamist, I doubted that and searched for it 3-4 weeks ago, and voila!!

is dog haram in islam - Google Search

Radicals come in many forms, some advocate killing of human beings, some dogs!!

And you already know the reason of his love for cats!

The Love and Importance of Cats in Islam | islam.ru

was lenin a "closet islamist" too??

though it is well known that the eternal national poet of russia, alexander pushkin, respected islam.

He is not a socialist either, in many threads he has argued that Islamic economic/financial system is socialist in nature, hence his love for socialism.

@jamahir

i speak for the abolishment of money system and thus economics but economics ( socialist economics though ) is part of islam... how would you judge that??

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@jamahir You hate dogs with a passion for some reason.

I don't like cats all that much, doesn't mean I need to impose my views on everyone as fact. Animal companions take many forms and guises for different people.

Stray dogs can be a problem and should be tackled where they present danger.

Just like the danger feral cats pose to natural environments in many areas of the world.

Australian government declares war on feral cats in bid to save native animals | Environment | The Guardian

Kangaroo Island group sets 2030 feral cat eradication deadline as part of three-stage project - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

you will have seen the various postings i made of dog attacks in india and other places... not only the aspect of dogs attacking/killing humans and cats, i am personally repulsed by dogs.

there was a thread about the australian government plan for this genocide of cats... please note that peta and maneka gandhi type "animal rights activists" have not voiced outrage as they would have done if such a plan involved dogs.

cats posing danger to ecology is nonsense... i am sure the cranks in the australian government who thought of that plan are dog lovers.

as ever i say, human cities must be a compromise between humans and cats and that brings harmony.

 

[Parul]

Dogs seems to be haram in Islam, seeing that he hates dogs and always talk about killing them in every other thread, and knowing that he is a closet islamist, I doubted that and searched for it 3-4 weeks ago, and voila!!

is dog haram in islam - Google Search

Radicals come in many forms, some advocate killing of human beings, some dogs!!

And you already know the reason of his love for cats!

The Love and Importance of Cats in Islam | islam.ru



He is not a socialist either, in many threads he has argued that Islamic economic/financial system is socialist in nature, hence his love for socialism.

@jamahir

I'm aware of this - let him play socialist- socialist. Action Speaks louder than words.

PS: My college friend stays at my place in Delhi and she's Iranian. She to read his posts & has similar views.

 

[Nilgiri]

cats posing danger to ecology is nonsense... i am sure the cranks in the australian government who thought of that plan are dog lovers.

I have seen firsthand the effect of feral cat populations on wild bird populations.

This is not anything against cats themselves, but the people that introduce them into areas where no such predators have existed....or at least enough big things to kill the cats in the natural cycle.

But denying their effect altogether is not reasonable if you want to look credible on the violent stray dog issue.

as ever i say, human cities must be a compromise between humans and cats and that brings harmony.

Cats do have their uses

Kangaroo Island’s Feral Cats put to good use! | Emu Ridge

 

[jamahir]

Cats do have their uses

Kangaroo Island’s Feral Cats put to good use! | Emu Ridge

this is not the matter of putting a grin emoticon, sir.

the haraamis who did such a cruel thing will be punished, maybe not even by me.